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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    I think New York may even update every hour, or at least several times a day?

    Yes.Their main report often coincides with the Governor's press conference.I think the public/private hospitals may have different reporting times or maybe its certain hospital groups that report differently.

    In any event if you look at what the any individual state reported yesterday you will have a fair idea if they have fully reported for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    In my opinion there is no possibility of the restrictions being lifted for several months.

    UK eyeing 6 months, Italy eyeing June. Most governments are simply not telling people the truth in relation to that.

    This "two weeks" stuff, "Easter", "end of April" - that's all completely unrealistic.

    Open up and we'll be locked down again with an explosion in cases within days.

    In that way we are effectively trapped until we have a vaccine.

    If you look at Italy for example and the horror they go through - it's flattening out for them but that's only because they have placed an artificial lid on it through a lockdown.

    As I said before it's like a pressure cooker - remove the lid and undo everything.

    We need a proven tested vaccine ultimately.

    It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
    There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    wonski wrote: »
    Good for you.

    What I see outside is a joke. Centra being a hot spot. There are families sitting around having chat regularly outside. With other families.

    Ridiculous. Tbf where I am I can only see compliance, which I’m amazed at given the last few weeks it seemed like people were incapable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    On Italy, deaths still bad but new cases are dropping ....

    from the last few days ...

    26/3/2020 6153 662
    27/3/2020 5909 919
    28/3/2020 5974 889
    29/3/2020 5217 756
    30/3/2020 4050 812
    31/3/2020 4053 837




    sorry for the sh!t formatting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,201 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    New York's Governor Cuomo says they have seen the biggest surge in the rate of hospitalisations in the last 24 hours.

    Meanwhile

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244977299486883840

    That's the level


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    So it`s just once a day for the national figure then?

    The national figure is the running total of the individual states and it's near midnight our time before you will have an accurate day on day figure.

    Even at that a change in reporting time can result in some states reporting twice in a 24 hour period and some might miss the 24 hour window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    ZX7R wrote: »
    It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
    There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know

    Best hope is a cheap and readily available test that shows if you have had the virus. Then hope that humans can't be reinfected by Covid-19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,203 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,203 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    849 deaths in Spain today


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

    133 according to the IT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I don't understand it. It's mostly cop on and I don't have a degree in microbiology. Why does it seem difficult to some people?

    Quite a high % of people are incapable of thinking for themselves outside the realms of basics.

    By nature most people are sheep who need to be led.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wonski wrote: »
    Good for you.

    What I see outside is a joke. Centra being a hot spot. There are families sitting around having chat regularly outside. With other families.

    I would say 100% compliance here where I am in a very built up part of Drogheda. I really dont understand this "people still out partying" stuff.... really?

    Anywhere I have gone is eerily quiet, no kids out at all and there are 900 houses in my estate. I think people have really copped on .

    I would also say that telling people they can only exercise within 2km means there WILL be a lot of people out in built up areas, you cant avoid it. For that reason I dont think the 2km rule has been thought through.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ZX7R wrote: »
    It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
    There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know

    Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

    There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,442 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

    Its only a matter of time before a stay at home order is enforced for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    wonski wrote: »
    We have no lockdown.

    Just some people working from home.

    The rest walking around and driving around.

    Lockdown lol...

    No lockdown, tell me any time you have seen temple bar like this at any time of day or night.

    https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

    The cities pigeons must be lepping with the hunger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

    If it’s any consolation, your children and grandchildren feel the same and are thinking of you. My boyfriends mother was on the phone a few hours begging to drop “something small” off outside and he had to get really tough with her about the reality of the situation. It was heartbreaking for all of us, but she’s taking too many risks and needed to hear it.

    We miss her madly, but we also want her to be here for cuddles and chats and cups of tea when this is all over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Fergal Bowers said this morning that it's the number of hospital and ICU admissions (and deaths) that needs to be focused on (rather than the number of confirmed cases, due to issues with the tests/getting test results).

    Yes this is what I think is more important as testing will differ depending on how tests are being carried out and what criteria. It’s the ability our hospitals have to treat the patients that is more important as opposed to the amount of people testing positive ( in my opinion)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭Palmach


    Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

    There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.


    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Palmach wrote: »
    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,201 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    John Oliver is gas on this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.

    The Global CFR is 4.93% based off WorldOMeter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    If it’s any consolation, your children and grandchildren feel the same and are thinking of you. My boyfriends mother was on the phone a few hours begging to drop “something small” off outside and he had to get really tough with her about the reality of the situation. It was heartbreaking for all of us, but she’s taking too many risks and needed to hear it.

    We miss her madly, but we also want her to be here for cuddles and chats and cups of tea when this is all over.

    What do you mean to drop something small? Are you restricting drawings etc going into the house? I would have liked to do that for older relations but I’m nervous sending pages or anything the virus could live on to their house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

    There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.


    They are not "almost at breaking point".
    Do you even know how many ICU beds there are in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    Why ? If your in your own house theres absolutely no need to be doing this.

    All you need to do is wash your hands regularly especially after coming in from outside. But you dont need to wash them each time you touch something in the house, just pointless

    OCD on speed

    Imagine what would happen if the housemate appears out of his bedroom ....And just takes a cup out of the press .....fills the kettle ....turns the kettle on ...takes milk out of fridge ....takes teabag out of tea jar makes cup of tea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Palmach wrote: »
    Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

    Well done. You know best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Inquitus wrote: »
    The Global CFR is 4.93% based off WorldOMeter

    Yep and increasing, it was 3.4% back in February.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Where do you live?

    Where I am there's almost nobody on the streets. And we're not having a total lockdown - everyone is expected to stay inside except for essential trips, and exercise. So there will be a small number of people out, validly, at any one time.

    This is the same as my area D14. Very few people out and about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    As I suspected, they are just kids https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irish-doctors-return-from-australia-you-don-t-run-away-from-things-like-this-1.4213048

    'Speaking about working as a doctor during the coronavirus crisis she said there was some fear. However, “it’s drummed into you in medical school, you don’t run away from things like this,” she said.'

    It's a wonder no irony is found in the statement above with reference to the Australian hospitals they've abandoned.

    I know I'll get heat for this but I think what they've done is unethical and is based on a misplaced sense of nationalism which has caused them to abandon their colleagues in a crisis. I'm surprised that they weren't challenged by the journalist who interviewed them.

    Doctor working in Perth wrote to the Irish times stating that 60% of the medical staff on shift were Irish, he said he thought their decision was not conscionable. https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/coronavirus-a-worldwide-crisis-1.4208156)

    They are choosing who to treat based on nationality.

    I don't think the medical board in Australia should rehire people who abandon their post during a crisis.


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