CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Timberrrrrrrr · 27-03-2020 10:13PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Re the economy, the ECB need to fire up the printing presses and issue money to every family in the EU.

People won't accept austerity after this.

How much per family?

What constitutes a family?

Are single people exempt from receiving this gift?

walshb · 27-03-2020 10:13PM

Harris is a great speaker..

27-03-2020 10:13PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

We don't know where it's being spread.

If it's being spread within 2m of other people then we can be fairly sure it's being spread in offices and canteens more than beaches.

smelly sock · 27-03-2020 10:13PM

Will the ***** in the NCT have to close?

BLIZZARD7 · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

The country needs to go back to work with restrictions lifted on april 14 regardless. at that stage the damage caused by fighting the virus, will be greater than the virus itself.

Regardless? :rolleyes: You clearly don't understand that the virus will effectively make our health system redundant if left run wild. In 2 weeks time it will be in a far worse situation than currently- to suggest we 'go back to work' and lift restrictions is utter stupidity and trump esque. The restrictions are more likely to get stricter in 2 weeks, not be lifted.

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yeah thankfully (bad thing to say) this crisis unlike the 2008 banking crisis is effecting Germany, so the ECB will eventually start printing money for government to use to pay down this debt.

This^ all of the central banks are printing essentially unlimited amounts of money to pay for the economic fallout and for fighting the virus itself. The world economy is crashing anyway, Ireland deciding to get everyone back to work prematurely isn't going to make a bit of difference to this.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

Is it 71 in ICU as of today?

Has that been verified?

Dr Tony said it.

Purple Mountain · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

The figures of saying that icu beds will be pushed beyond capacity isn't really taking into consideration the people who will leave icu into main ward or god forbid leave by the mortuary?

An Ri rua · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I work as an outpatient clinic secretary so, I don't really know where we fall in this because there's no outpatient clinics going on anymore.

You surely got the redeployment notices from HSE, as all public servants have...

Purple Mountain · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

The figures of saying that icu beds will be pushed beyond capacity isn't really taking into consideration the people who will leave icu into main ward or god forbid leave by the mortuary?

con747 · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Will home heating oil be delivered?

Yes

Spook_ie · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

Anybody got a list of essential shops and jobs?

Manach · 27-03-2020 10:14PM

This lockdown is a difficult call to judge. On the one hand, this will save lives of the most afflicted. On the other, there is no comparible precedent for this scale of infringement of liberties. During prior historic pandemic/illness events, normal life went on as close to normal as possible. The great debates on human freedom and political discussion occurred during virulent outbreaks that outstripped the Corana virus.

Personally I have no regard for this government, which still finds time to virtue signal its base, eg on abortion. I just hope that they got this call right and the long term consequences of this draconian measure do not pan out.

Quantum Erasure · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

How much per family?

tree fiddy

Strazdas · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can see the spread on the map, every day Kildare, Wicklow and Meath are getting higher and higher, it's movement that is causing it, trains, buses, cars ect
Wuhan shut down public transports straight away, it's was their no1 weapon against the virus. Dublin is open for anyone to move in and out of , spreading the virus far and wide.

That will change this weekend. Anyone who is in a place where they shouldn't be can be questioned by Gardai and public transport sounds like it will be really quiet.

Funsterdelux · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

I think with SARS the virus came back in winter. Are they going to shut everything down again in November?
Sky said that 98% of people who die have pre-existing conditions.

There might have to be restrictions turned on and off until the virus is under control or we get a vaccine

27-03-2020 10:15PM

Wibbs wrote: »

This plus a thousand. There will always be a whataboutthese[insert group here], but we're literally fighting a war here. We will lose people and we have to support as many people as we can, but we also have to sack the fcuk up here and do what's best for the majority of people.

And I wasn't implying otherwise. Simply acknowledging the difficulty of it all.

con747 · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Will the ***** in the NCT have to close?

No

fritzelly · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Exercise is allowed.

With children - take that as one adult and young kids
Else what is the point if everyone is still doing the same thing

jackboy · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Exercise is allowed.

Only within 2 km of home.

bekker · 27-03-2020 10:15PM

Whehey! wrote: »

It's not exactly rocket science having a list of non essential jobs printed and ready before a live government briefing to the nation that somes in effect from midnight.

For most, for some unused to joined-up thinking it's akin to the Manhattan Project

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 10:16PM

I can safely predict there will be panic buying tomorrow morning.

elperello · 27-03-2020 10:16PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

exactly, I will be sure to make them all wear stars, so they can be easily identified:rolleyes:

what difference is it if you go for a 2 km run in the middle of nowhere or a 10 km run in the middle of nowhere?

If you go for the 10k you will be breaching the rules.
It's really that simple.
Do what you are told or don't, your decision.

Martina1991 · 27-03-2020 10:16PM

billyhead wrote:

How are you at a greater risk of contracting the virus if you bend the 2km rule?

You are a greater risk of spreading it, not contacting it.

Makes contact tracing that bit easier.

Lollipop95 · 27-03-2020 10:16PM

Didn't realise Simon Harris was so young, he's only 33

Micky 32 · 27-03-2020 10:16PM

I wonder is appliance repairing ( someone calling to a house to repair an appliance) be classed as an essential service.

AdrianG08 · 27-03-2020 10:16PM

We wont hit 15000 because testing hasnt been sufficient.

So many infected people were not even aware.

Key figure is ICU admissions

Blueshoe · 27-03-2020 10:17PM

CaoinDory wrote: »

How the hell can they say it's in effect from midnight but not release the "essential workers" list until tomorrow. >:(

Because after midnight tonight they are not legally permitted to change legislation. It must be done by a newly formed government. This is another mess we could really do without now

cosanostra · 27-03-2020 10:17PM

spookwoman wrote: »

From RTE I don't know if mods wat to put it in the sticky
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said that from midnight tonight and for a two-week period, until Easter Sunday, everybody must stay at home, in all circumstances:

Except

- To travel to and from work for the purposes of work only where the work is an essential health, social care or other essential service or cannot be done from home (a list of these will be provided)

- To shop for food or household goods or collect a meal

- To attend medical appointments or collect medicines and other health products

- For vital family reasons, such as providing care to children, elderly or vulnerable people

- To take brief individual personal exercise within 2km of your own home which may include children from your own household as long as you adhere to two-metre physical distancing

- For farming purposes that is food production and care of animals

- All public and private gatherings of any number of people outside a single household or living unit are prohibited. The virus might be in your household already so please don't spread it to someone else

- This prohibition includes social family visits that are not for vital reasons already mentioned

- A further range of non-essential shops and services will be closed. The guidance given earlier this week in respect of retail outlets will be revised to reflect this

- Adult community education centres and local community centres will be shut

- All non-essential surgery and health procedures and all other non-essential health services will be postponed

- All visits to hospitals, residential healthcare settings and prisons are to cease, with specific exceptions on compassionate grounds

- Shielding or cocooning will be introduced for all those 70 years of age and specified categories of people who are extremely vulnerable to Covid-19

- Travel to our offshore islands will be limited to residents of those islands

- Pharmacists will be permitted to dispense medicines outside of the current period of validity with an existing prescription in line with the pharmacists clinical judgement

- All public transport and passenger travel will be restricted to essential workers and people providing essential services

- Outside of the reasons listed there is to be no travel outside a 2km radius of your home for any reason

Going by this factories and building sites will continue to operate as normal

YFlyer · 27-03-2020 10:17PM

fritzelly wrote: »

With children - take that as one adult and young kids
Else what is the point if everyone is still doing the same thing

Of course.

Quantum Erasure · 27-03-2020 10:17PM

fritzelly wrote: »

With children - take that as one adult and young kids
Else what is the point if everyone is still doing the same thing

will i need to borrow kids from my neighbour?

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03