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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,208 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Looks like I'm contact tracing from Friday. Delighted to be able to do something.

    Good on You, I'd love to do something to help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Just back from the supermarket, first time leaving the house in a week..absolute bag of nerves going in there. Dread to think what ill be like by the 19th of April


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I don't know where you're getting 6% from but that would mean a 94% negative rate which would be a waste of tests.

    I don't know how you can say they have failed when it's still a work in progress.

    We're only at the beginning of this.

    6% has been touted as the figure of positive testing so far.

    That figure will likely increase given we have 45% community spread.

    But even using that figure out of the 40,000 (which is not the figure anymore it's gone up) we have missed 2,400 positive people or almost double our confirmed cases.

    That's a big problem and a huge fúck up.

    Our data is at least 9+ days if not more behind, where it should be only 3 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    rusty cole wrote: »
    A friend of ours had to drive to the NAAS test centre over a week ago for a test and has been waiting ever since...this afternoon and ambulance rocks up to swab him for his test!! it was an error and they lost his first one, so he's still waiting on the result and someone has lost a possible test for confirmation. A test which the HSE have now said you must qualify for!

    Did he self isolate while waiting for results? He's probably almost over covid19 by now so his result might show as a negative if the wait goes on any longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    But Paddy? Nope... Paddy puts ventilators on a plane to New York!

    The above and exporting all the masks manufactured here, in the future may be looked on like exporting corn during An Gorta Mor, in the unfortunate event that we have a high mortality here.

    :-(


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    It will be bright until at least 8pm after March 29th.
    lawred2 wrote: »
    And?

    And we will have way more light in the evenings. It will cheer people up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Do we have enough ventilators in this country to treat everyone, if this turns bad like in other countries?

    I was of the understanding, that we have less of them than the european average... and yet we produce 50% of the world supply! :confused:

    What gives?

    Most other countries would not accept something like that... but so long as certain people are getting rich off these multinationals, paddy bites his lip and keeps the ball rolling! :rolleyes:

    Imagine the other way round, we stash on ventilators like bog roll from the supermarket and the rest of the world finds out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    I am not sure what exactly means 'community transmission'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    mohawk wrote: »
    I am in biopharma myself and not med devices so no expert in ventilators. But my experience of pharmaceuticals tells me we import majority of raw materials required to make our products. How different is that in the med device sector? I wonder where all the parts, raw materials etc come from to make those ventilators because if we play games like that we could find ourselves not able to make any ventilators.

    Very good point. Why is Germany allowed to ban export of PPE though. Shouldn't it be triaged like other resources? Like Italy / Spain clearly need it way more than they do. If the numbers are anything to go by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Lavinia wrote: »
    I am not sure what exactly means 'community transmission'

    Essentially now it means.

    You get infected by someone unknown to you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    threeball wrote: »

    :eek:

    Jesus Christ, so the treatment is keeping it from getting worse but now that's cancelled and they say they can offer her some palliative card and pain relief.
    That is just not acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    growleaves wrote: »
    A German infectious diseases specialist said that "Northern Italy is the China of Europe" in terms of air pollution and smoking and that decades of accumulated lung damage had left Italians in a hoop.

    I think Germany has better medical care facilities as well.

    Well he is misinformed
    Italian tobacco consumption is not particularly high..many European countries have much higher rates of consumption, including Germany. Other European countries with much higher rates of cigarette consumption are Croatia, Hungary, Greece, Czech republic and Belgium. Spain is also one place higher than Italy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita

    Air quality in Northern Italy is definitely bad he is right there, it is the worst in Europe. But again it is not really anything that exceptional in Europe, much of Europe has very poor air quality, including the industrial east of Germany, London, southern france, the Adriatic coastal nations, Poland. etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Very good point. Why is Germany allowed to ban export of PPE though. Shouldn't it be triaged like other resources? Like Italy / Spain clearly need it way more than they do. If the numbers are anything to go by.

    Germany only banned it to build up their resources.

    They are exporting again.

    I don't hold that against Germany, I think it was the most prudent decision they could make.

    But for some odd reason if the Irish do it we will be destroyed by some sort consequences down the line.

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,736 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Imagine the other way round, we stash on ventilators like bog roll from the supermarket and the rest of the world finds out.

    I wonder how much of the manufacturing capacity would actually be needed for Ireland if we're making 50% of the entire planet's supply. The numbers will be gone over with a fine-tooth lens after this is over, but for now, that horse has sailed the nest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Just had a meal. Laced it with hot chilies. Ending up coughing. Hope my housemates don't expect me to go into isolation.


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    Shn99 wrote: »
    Just back from the supermarket, first time leaving the house in a week..absolute bag of nerves going in there. Dread to think what ill be like by the 19th of April

    Busy? Quiet? I always remember what that doctor from Bergamo tweeted a couple of weeks back about going when its quiet. He considered it very important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Boggles wrote: »
    Germany only banned it to build up their resources.

    They are exporting again.

    I don't hold that against Germany, I think it was the most prudent decision they could make.

    But for some odd reason if the Irish do it we will be destroyed by some sort consequences down the line.

    :confused:

    People need to get some balls at a time like this. Sending frontline staff to confront this pandemic without adequate PPE is breaking the social contract.

    They didn't sign up for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    Boggles wrote: »
    Essentially now it means.

    You get infected by someone unknown to you.
    okay thank you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Snowbiee21


    Is there some sort of conference today?
    The ma has me convinced there is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭mosii


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJlLVpJu7ZQ

    Spreading exponentially ,its going to be a long few months,take care everybody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Is there some sort of conference today?
    The ma has me convinced there is

    Only the daily case update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    kowloon wrote: »
    I wonder how much of the manufacturing capacity would actually be needed for Ireland if we're making 50% of the entire planet's supply. The numbers will be gone over with a fine-tooth lens after this is over, but for now, that horse has sailed the nest.

    I seriously doubt this figure. Id say a lot are shipped here and distributed from here for tax reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Very good point. Why is Germany allowed to ban export of PPE though. Shouldn't it be triaged like other resources? Like Italy / Spain clearly need it way more than they do. If the numbers are anything to go by.
    Both Germany and France, we just have to put up with it, health and security are national competencies.

    EU is attempting to establish a strategic cache of medical equipment and supplies needed to manage COVID-19.

    It is to be distributed on basis of need.

    Plus, we are a small open economy, Germany and France are major economic powers, and geopolitically significant.

    Different rules for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Seem to be later than usual with the UK data today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Imagine the other way round, we stash on ventilators like bog roll from the supermarket and the rest of the world finds out.

    So?
    It is the new norm anyway.
    Why would you expect our government to be any different from say German one which confiscated even foreign owned material which come to German ports to be sent to other countries? They did not have any problem doing that citing national emergency.
    Or Czech government which confiscated Chinese help for Italians and distributed it to their own hospitals and tried to cover it up till the last minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Boggles wrote: »
    6% has been touted as the figure of positive testing so far.

    That figure will likely increase given we have 45% community spread.

    But even using that figure out of the 40,000 (which is not the figure anymore it's gone up) we have missed 2,400 positive people or almost double our confirmed cases.

    That's a big problem and a huge fúck up.

    Our data is at least 9+ days if not more behind, where it should be only 3 days.

    Sounds like the latest in a long line of monumental c*ck ups from the HSE and government.

    Why should we have expected anything better given their past record? They have a history of waiting until everything reaches meltdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,736 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I seriously doubt this figure. Id say a lot are shipped here and distributed from here for tax reasons.
    Could well be. I used to work for a multinational that shipped product abroad for basic finishing for the same reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭martin101


    Another day doing non essential admin work in an office today. a few are working from home but others like myself who have asked have been told it's too messy for yous to work at home. I've asked for staggered hours to try to stop being in with many, I'm 20 years with the company. I'm always in and never out sick. I have a family member with a serious underlying condition but I'm still told there's nothing they can do for me so it's 9-5 again tomorrow and the two bus journeys ontop of that. Really think I might go out on the sick with stress before I do actually get sick with the virus and bring it home. It's against everything I stand for but I'm just so upset at the thoughts of passing this on and my employers not helping me out at all. My job is work that could literally be left there for weeks and have no impact on anyone


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