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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #8042
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    calgary bound wrote: »
    Had to attend Naas A&E last night at my GPs incisteance, was very nervous going in but there were only 2 people in front of me and I was home 3 hours later after getting bloods, ECG etc done. It's amazing how people use A&E unnecessarily. Wouldn't it be great if that changed after this.

    May have been posted already

    http://137.191.241.85/ed/ED.php?EDDATE=25%2F3%2F2020


  • #8043
    NaiveMelodies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    STB. wrote: »
    I'd love to know what they were doing in the HSE procurement admin side in the run up to this. They have known for quite a while and I have seen the staff call outs on twitter for PPE, with some of their accounts shut down albeit temporarily.

    To answer your question. You may know some of these.

    O'Neill's in Strabane have reopened their production line, 2 days ago, to manufacture PPE for the NI Trusts. https://twitter.com/ONeills1918


    Lower level

    https://twitter.com/arcosafety
    https://www.boconline.ie/en/products-and-supply/safety-products-ppe/index.html
    https://www.classicsolutions.ie/shop/

    https://osullivansafety.ie/
    https://www.nisbets.ie


    Sorry was a bit of a rhetorical. In regular contact with China. China are the source.

    O'Neills pulled off a major PR coup and fairplay to them. The impact will be minimal. They have other production lines they could have used which would have made a real impact.


  • #8044
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Yeh thats true, would be interesting to see a growth chart of Dublin beside the rest of the country. Dublin is probably much closer to the 30% growth rate than the rest of Ireland
    Give my eye-teeth (if they were still there :() for even half the granularity of data available on Singaporean dashboard.

    But then there'd be little to post about, except of course the sanctity of privacy, GDPR etc.


  • #8045
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,780 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    yes - and the States have a lot of control over their local health system.
    there's no "Federal Health Service". it's very much on a State level.

    So Cuomo does have a lot of power.

    He does , but the Federal Government have all the money - So if they roll back the "emergency" status at Federal level that cuts off access to huge funds and resources..

    He could for example maintain a state level lock-down , but without Federal support the states run out of cash really fast.


  • #8046
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    am VERY impressed with Cuomo on this presser.

    He's really getting into the weeds, and the details. VERY on top of his brief.

    Rumours some democrats want him to replace Biden as the democratic nominee. Biden's continues to make gaffe's and doesn't look as assuring or as commanding as Cuomo does.


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  • #8047
    jrosen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Ive thankfully never needed A&E myself but due to a condition my child has we have spent many a night in childrens A&E. Im always amazed at the kids who need A&E yet gobble madconalds etc and spend their time running around waiting to be seen.

    I think we have more than our fair share of time wasters in Ireland.


  • #8048
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    I retract my previous post, top class stuff out of McGregor here, fair play.

    "McGregor" and "top class" are not three words that go together.


  • #8049
    KiKi III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Rumours some democrats want him to replace Biden as the democratic nominee. Biden's continues to make gaffe's and doesn't look as assuring or as commanding as Cuomo does.

    Could be VP?


  • #8050
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    Just had text form a friend who has just tested positive.. no major symptoms bit of a cough which wasn’t clearing as he has a child with a poor immune system GP sent him to be tested.
    Under new protocol he wouldn’t have been tested and he was sure it was only a cold.
    Still doesn’t feel majorly unwell.
    His GP was on the ball and he was in self isolation from early on .. but he could have very well dismissed it as a cold and carried on with life.
    Goes to show how important social distancing is , everyone should presume that everyone they meet has it ..


  • #8051
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Rumours some democrats want him to replace Biden as the democratic nominee. Biden's continues to make gaffe's and doesn't look as assuring or as commanding as Cuomo does.
    He's plain-spoken and has a very abrasive personality, which is perfect for this. Himself and de Blasio have git it into it during this.


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  • #8052
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    How stupid can you get?
    The head of Public Health for the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
    Has he ever heard of Skype?
    EDIT: Head of Public Health HSE.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html


  • #8053
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yeah, and most, if not all, will be heading overseas and out of the EU.

    Surely the Govt. could step in and requisition them for Irish domestic use.


  • #8054
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Havnt posted in here for 2 weeks - just wondering, anyone any idea why German statistics are so much better than Spain and Italy ?

    Are they doing more random testing , and Spain and Italy only testing people very sick with virus -

    Currently Spain have nearly 2,500 in a serious condition , and Italy nearly 3,500 while Germany has only 23 in serious condition.
    Germany has a total of 36,000 cases ,
    Spain has nearly 48,000
    and Italy nearly 70,000


  • #8055
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Surely the Govt. could step in and requisition them for Irish domestic use.
    The HSE have a huge order from China on the way.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/hse-coronavirus-tests-5054225-Mar2020/


  • #8056
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    How stupid can you get?
    The head of the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
    Has he ever heard of Skype?
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

    As stupid as not being able to read the article properly?
    ...head of public health in the south...


  • #8057
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    NYC : 30,000 ventilators needed.

    They have 4,000. Ordered 7,000. "still shopping"

    ( Cuomo presser)

    We are lucky there. They are made in Galway. Medtronic do 50% of the world supply
    .
    https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/medtronic-double-production-ventilators-galway-ireland

    Both France and Germany banned the export of all medical equipment.


  • #8058
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Only England though, not up here in NI.

    Sounds like you guys might need them too.. how is your death total matching the south, with far less confirmed cases?

    Is that under testing? Or something else?


  • #8059
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    How stupid can you get?
    The head of the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
    Has he ever heard of Skype?
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

    My god, surely it's a known now at this stage that travel is a huge risk and contender for getting infected with CV.


  • #8060
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    josip wrote: »
    As stupid as not being able to read the article properly?

    If he is the head of public health for the HSE, why would he take a plane over to the UK in the midst of this crisis? Still Idiotic.


  • #8061
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    How stupid can you get?
    The head of the HSE is now in self isolation after visiting his family in England last week.
    Has he ever heard of Skype?
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hses-head-of-public-health-in-the-south-in-self-isolation-after-visiting-family-in-england-990059.html

    That is just classic.


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  • #8062
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    thebaz wrote: »
    Havnt posted in here for 2 weeks - just wondering, anyone any idea why German statistics are so much better than Spain and Italy ?

    Are they doing more random testing , and Spain and Italy only testing people very sick with virus -

    Currently Spain have nearly 2,500 in a serious condition , and Italy nearly 3,500 while Germany has only 23 in serious condition.
    Germany has a total of 36,000 cases ,
    Spain has nearly 48,000
    and Italy nearly 70,000

    It's not random testing it's community testing. Like we offer our people.

    Spain and Italy have moved to hospital only testing. Basically the only way you can get a test in those countries is through A&E. German does community testing in test centres like we do.

    Secondly I don't believe the serious case numbers and the deaths numbers are consistent across different countries. Spain and Italy are calling any infected person dieing a coronavirus death.

    It's my understanding that infected people in Germany are dieing of heart attacks and pneumonia.

    There's a few other points I could raise that I've seen in German and English language news sources but I'm not a medical expert and I've felt the certainty in the suggestions is lower.


  • #8063
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Sounds like you guys might need them too.. how is your death total matching the south, with far less confirmed cases?

    Is that under testing? Or something else?

    I'm trying to find it, but once I saw a map of the average age of Ireland and the highest was North Down and Strangford (on the whole island). That might be something to do with it.


  • #8064
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Wrong.

    Governors have a lot of power in these times, its up to Governor Cuomo to decide whether or not New York state can re-open, not Trump.
    Depends on whether T's figures show he's going to be in a better long term position by supporting, or screwing over the governors (or the majority of them).

    He controls direction of federal funding support, and allocation of federal strategic equipment reserves.


  • #8065
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,008 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Havnt posted in here for 2 weeks - just wondering, anyone any idea why German statistics are so much better than Spain and Italy ?

    A German infectious diseases specialist said that "Northern Italy is the China of Europe" in terms of air pollution and smoking and that decades of accumulated lung damage had left Italians in a hoop.

    I think Germany has better medical care facilities as well.


  • #8066
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Surely the Govt. could step in and requisition them for Irish domestic use.

    How thin our beliefs in free market globalisation really is.

    I kind of agree that we should try get first dibs on these but we cant really be seen to try and get one up on other countries either.


  • #8067
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    thebaz wrote: »
    Havnt posted in here for 2 weeks - just wondering, anyone any idea why German statistics are so much better than Spain and Italy ?

    Are they doing more random testing , and Spain and Italy only testing people very sick with virus -

    Currently Spain have nearly 2,500 in a serious condition , and Italy nearly 3,500 while Germany has only 23 in serious condition.
    Germany has a total of 36,000 cases ,
    Spain has nearly 48,000
    and Italy nearly 70,000


    The Robert Koch daily report for Germany can be downloaded from this page:https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...te/Gesamt.html

    The report in German shows that they have a low hospitalisation rate:
    Translated with Google: "Hospitalization was reported in 1,783 of the 19,797 reported COVID-19 cases (9%)."


  • #8068
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    josip wrote: »
    As stupid as not being able to read the article properly?

    Head of public health in the south is not much better in fairness. I cancelled my flights abroad on the 10th March and I am just a lowly commoner. If a person in such a position cannit make a responsible choice then they cannot chastise others for also being dingbats.


  • #8069
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    briancoolcat wrote: »
    Great post regarding the sudden drop off in hospital numbers as soon as this crisis hit. The GPs were sent a directive to stop sending non medical emergencies to our hospitals. For obvious reasons I can't post the source up on an internet forum. When this crisis has passed I truly hope that the HSE, the government, and the GPs get together and deal with the amount of people clogging up the service with minor ailments allowing our A and E departments to deal with real true emergencies and not having to deal with all the time wasting that was going on before. Let's hope something positive comes out of it anyway.

    Obviously time wasters were a problem but severe drop in numbers like that also mean that a lot of people that need medical attention are not accessing it. I wonder how many undiagnosed cancers have there been in the last few weeks?
    Obviously health system and workers are doing the best they can in this time but this backlog will cause suffering and potential deaths also. Maybe unavoidable in the circumstances but not insignificant.


  • #8070
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Found it:
    image.png

    Oldest age groups of Ireland are the north east, hence why NI might be the more vulnerable than the ROI in this pandemic.


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  • #8071
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,736 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Found it:
    [IMG]https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1830101.1402587299!/image/image.png_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.png Oldest age groups of Ireland are the north east, hence why NI might be the more vulnerable than the ROI in this pandemic.[/img]

    Poor choice of colour.


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