CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

threeball · 25-03-2020 05:20PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

There will surely have to be an analysis of the total drop off in figures attending A/E. Hopefully.

I doubt many attend A/E with cancer symptoms. Usually there is something not right, off to GP, then tests, then treatment. All outside A/E system.

Most Cancer treatments have been cancelled which is pretty poor. Is it now that someones life who has cancer is valued below that of someone with COVID. There was a 38yr old woman with 3 kids on the radio earlier who is only staying alive because of her chemo treatments but they have been cancelled indefinitely. Thats a bloody stupid trade off.

all about the mane · 25-03-2020 05:20PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Looks like I'm contact tracing from Friday. Delighted to be able to do something.

Brilliant. How did you get involved?

Tacitus Kilgore · 25-03-2020 05:20PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Looks like I'm contact tracing from Friday. Delighted to be able to do something.

Good stuff, get stuck in!

Thelonious Monk · 25-03-2020 05:20PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Brilliant. How did you get involved?

You can PM me if you want details but I'd rather not give out too much

lak · 25-03-2020 05:20PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

Are these kits reliable and will they make a real difference?

all about the mane · 25-03-2020 05:21PM

threeball wrote: »

Most Cancer treatments have been cancelled which is pretty poor. Is it now that someones life who has cancer is valued below that of someone with COVID. There was a 38yr old woman with 3 kids on the radio earlier who is only staying alive because of her chemo treatments but they have been cancelled indefinitely. Thats a bloody stupid trade off.

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 25-03-2020 05:22PM

FVP3 wrote: »

Who is Paddy?

As to why Ireland would be more reluctant, if a company is fully German or Spanish owned it is easier. Ireland hasn't that many indigenous industry.

If 1,000's of people die in this country, because they didn't have enough ventilators to treat them. And we sent 1,000's of ventilators on planes to the U.S during this crisis... nobody is going to care what the name of the company was, or who owns it...

Jinglejangle69 · 25-03-2020 05:22PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

Yeah I don't believe that one bit.

threeball · 25-03-2020 05:23PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

The woman on the radio said a nurse called her and was in tears as she had to inform a number of people of the same news.

Fionne · 25-03-2020 05:23PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

It's certainly not true in all cases, I know someone having Chemo who is still being treated. Maybe it depends on the location/hospital? People are still dealing with the illnesses that were there pre-Covid19 and shouldn't be ignored, especially cancer treatment.

all about the mane · 25-03-2020 05:24PM

threeball wrote: »

The woman on the radio said a nurse called her and was in tears as she had to inform a number of people of the same news.

Something doesn’t add up there. You must be missing some info

Azatadine · 25-03-2020 05:24PM

I find that hard to believe too.

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 05:25PM

Boggles wrote: »

Sure going at 6% only 2,400 would have the virus.

They have failed with what they tried to do, time to acknowledge that and move on.

Anyone trying to put a spin on it is to be ignored IMO.

I don't know where you're getting 6% from but that would mean a 94% negative rate which would be a waste of tests.

I don't know how you can say they have failed when it's still a work in progress.

We're only at the beginning of this.

threeball · 25-03-2020 05:26PM

FonE wrote: »

It's certainly not true in all cases, I know someone having Chemo who is still being treated. Maybe it depends on the location/hospital? People are still dealing with the illnesses that were there pre-Covid19 and shouldn't be ignored, especially cancer treatment.

There are people whose cancer treatment can wait as they aren't high risk but this woman was stage 4 and the only thing keeping her alive was suppressing the disease with chemo. Shes certainly not one that should have been cancelled regardless of which hospital she attends.

Rob A. Bank · 25-03-2020 05:26PM

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 25 March 2020 @ 08:00 hrs.

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novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-03-25.png?itok=3m-JTqai

The barchart no longer seems to be on an exponential trajectory upwards for daily cases in Europe. Maybe even leveling off thanks to the mitigation efforts.

However approx 23,000 cases per day is not good.

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

patnor1011 · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

FVP3 wrote: »

Best man for the HSE job alright.

What we need is a man who will charge money for hospital admissions and even more if you want a bed, respirator, room, or nurse.

only 9.99 for testing and 49.99 to get results.

bekker · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

Why are we testing?

What purpose is it suppose to serve?

How does being tested benefit either the individual, or society at large, if the results are irrelevant to speed of treatment, and the data from them meaningless?

See what the HSE says is the reason.

Getting a test for coronavirus
Phone your GP. Do not go to a GP surgery, pharmacy or hospital. The GP will assess you over the phone.

If they think that you need to be tested, they will arrange a test for you.

Caring for yourself at home
About 80% of people can recover from coronavirus at home and without needing to go to hospital.
...
If you are generally fit and healthy with only mild symptoms of coronavirus, your GP will tell you to self-isolate at home.

If your symptoms get worse
Contact your GP if your symptoms don't improve after 14 days.

If you are in an at-risk group, you should keep a close eye on your symptoms. Contact your GP straight away if they get worse.

https://www2.hse.ie/coronavirus/"
see Symptoms and causes

threeball · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Something doesn’t add up there. You must be missing some info

I can only relay what the woman said. Listened to the entire interview

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

Also I don't think chemo can be the only thing keeping her alive.

STB. · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

These are the things that concern me, when people tell you that our government are doing a great job...

Spain also raided medical factories, and requisitioned vital equipment that they needed. And they are absolutely correct to do so, in this type of emergency situation!

But Paddy? Nope... Paddy puts ventilators on a plane to New York!

I warned several journalists about a week and a half ago.

American parent company.

CrabRevolution · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

If 1,000's of people die in this country, because they didn't have enough ventilators to treat them. And we sent 1,000's of ventilators on planes to the U.S during this crisis... nobody is going to care what the name of the company was, or who owns it...

But what happens if the countries supplying the 100% of the parts of the ventilators that are made abroad, decide they want to keep them and halt delivery of the parts here?

ThePiedPiper · 25-03-2020 05:28PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Yeah I don't believe that one bit.

My mother had her treatment on Monday in Mater private. So, certainly, treatments still going ahead according to schedule

25-03-2020 05:29PM

A friend of ours had to drive to the NAAS test centre over a week ago for a test and has been waiting ever since...this afternoon and ambulance rocks up to swab him for his test!! it was an error and they lost his first one, so he's still waiting on the result and someone has lost a possible test for confirmation. A test which the HSE have now said you must qualify for!

Jinglejangle69 · 25-03-2020 05:29PM

ThePiedPiper wrote: »

My mother had her treatment on Monday in Mater private. So, certainly, treatments still going ahead according to schedule

Great to hear.

Hope it all works out for.

threeball · 25-03-2020 05:31PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

https://www.classichits.ie/podcasts/niall-boylan/episode/coronavirus-updates-25th-march-2020/?autoplay=1

36.30 onwards

Kerry25x · 25-03-2020 05:32PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Looks like I'm contact tracing from Friday. Delighted to be able to do something.

Fair play!

tobefrank321 · 25-03-2020 05:32PM

We need to think about repurposing Irish companies and workers if possible to manufacture face masks, basic ventilators for those who are not critical but struggling to breathe, and also accommodation such as hotels and conference centres to deal with these less severe cases. We also need to start training or retraining medical staff in the use of ventilators as it sounds like its a highly skilled job to intubate someone.

Now is the time to plan for this, not when the sh*t hits the fan.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 05:32PM

threeball wrote: »

Most Cancer treatments have been cancelled which is pretty poor. Is it now that someones life who has cancer is valued below that of someone with COVID. There was a 38yr old woman with 3 kids on the radio earlier who is only staying alive because of her chemo treatments but they have been cancelled indefinitely. Thats a bloody stupid trade off.

What hospital?

The only thing I can figure is that it's being cancelled while they figure out how to deliver treatment in a lower risk way.

Separate entrances or buildings sealed off from areas of the hospital working on covid 19 patients etc.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 25-03-2020 05:33PM

mohawk wrote: »

I am in biopharma myself and not med devices so no expert in ventilators. But my experience of pharmaceuticals tells me we import majority of raw materials required to make our products. How different is that in the med device sector? I wonder where all the parts, raw materials etc come from to make those ventilators because if we play games like that we could find ourselves not able to make any ventilators.

Do we have enough ventilators in this country to treat everyone, if this turns bad like in other countries?

I was of the understanding, that we have less of them than the european average... and yet we produce 50% of the world supply!

What gives?

Most other countries would not accept something like that... but so long as certain people are getting rich off these multinationals, paddy bites his lip and keeps the ball rolling! :rolleyes:

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 05:33PM

rusty cole wrote: »

A friend of ours had to drive to the NAAS test centre over a week ago for a test and has been waiting ever since...this afternoon and ambulance rocks up to swab him for his test!! it was an error and they lost his first one, so he's still waiting on the result and someone has lost a possible test for confirmation. A test which the HSE have now said you must qualify for!

Was he informed of the lost test? Very bad of HSE

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP