CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

CrabRevolution · 25-03-2020 05:27PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

If 1,000's of people die in this country, because they didn't have enough ventilators to treat them. And we sent 1,000's of ventilators on planes to the U.S during this crisis... nobody is going to care what the name of the company was, or who owns it...

But what happens if the countries supplying the 100% of the parts of the ventilators that are made abroad, decide they want to keep them and halt delivery of the parts here?

ThePiedPiper · 25-03-2020 05:28PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Yeah I don't believe that one bit.

My mother had her treatment on Monday in Mater private. So, certainly, treatments still going ahead according to schedule

25-03-2020 05:29PM

A friend of ours had to drive to the NAAS test centre over a week ago for a test and has been waiting ever since...this afternoon and ambulance rocks up to swab him for his test!! it was an error and they lost his first one, so he's still waiting on the result and someone has lost a possible test for confirmation. A test which the HSE have now said you must qualify for!

Jinglejangle69 · 25-03-2020 05:29PM

ThePiedPiper wrote: »

My mother had her treatment on Monday in Mater private. So, certainly, treatments still going ahead according to schedule

Great to hear.

Hope it all works out for.

threeball · 25-03-2020 05:31PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Are you sure? This can’t be true??

https://www.classichits.ie/podcasts/niall-boylan/episode/coronavirus-updates-25th-march-2020/?autoplay=1

36.30 onwards

Kerry25x · 25-03-2020 05:32PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Looks like I'm contact tracing from Friday. Delighted to be able to do something.

Fair play!

tobefrank321 · 25-03-2020 05:32PM

We need to think about repurposing Irish companies and workers if possible to manufacture face masks, basic ventilators for those who are not critical but struggling to breathe, and also accommodation such as hotels and conference centres to deal with these less severe cases. We also need to start training or retraining medical staff in the use of ventilators as it sounds like its a highly skilled job to intubate someone.

Now is the time to plan for this, not when the sh*t hits the fan.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 05:32PM

threeball wrote: »

Most Cancer treatments have been cancelled which is pretty poor. Is it now that someones life who has cancer is valued below that of someone with COVID. There was a 38yr old woman with 3 kids on the radio earlier who is only staying alive because of her chemo treatments but they have been cancelled indefinitely. Thats a bloody stupid trade off.

What hospital?

The only thing I can figure is that it's being cancelled while they figure out how to deliver treatment in a lower risk way.

Separate entrances or buildings sealed off from areas of the hospital working on covid 19 patients etc.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 25-03-2020 05:33PM

mohawk wrote: »

I am in biopharma myself and not med devices so no expert in ventilators. But my experience of pharmaceuticals tells me we import majority of raw materials required to make our products. How different is that in the med device sector? I wonder where all the parts, raw materials etc come from to make those ventilators because if we play games like that we could find ourselves not able to make any ventilators.

Do we have enough ventilators in this country to treat everyone, if this turns bad like in other countries?

I was of the understanding, that we have less of them than the european average... and yet we produce 50% of the world supply!

What gives?

Most other countries would not accept something like that... but so long as certain people are getting rich off these multinationals, paddy bites his lip and keeps the ball rolling! :rolleyes:

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 05:33PM

rusty cole wrote: »

A friend of ours had to drive to the NAAS test centre over a week ago for a test and has been waiting ever since...this afternoon and ambulance rocks up to swab him for his test!! it was an error and they lost his first one, so he's still waiting on the result and someone has lost a possible test for confirmation. A test which the HSE have now said you must qualify for!

Was he informed of the lost test? Very bad of HSE

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 05:34PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Looks like I'm contact tracing from Friday. Delighted to be able to do something.

Good on You, I'd love to do something to help

Shn99 · 25-03-2020 05:37PM

Just back from the supermarket, first time leaving the house in a week..absolute bag of nerves going in there. Dread to think what ill be like by the 19th of April

Boggles · 25-03-2020 05:39PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't know where you're getting 6% from but that would mean a 94% negative rate which would be a waste of tests.

I don't know how you can say they have failed when it's still a work in progress.

We're only at the beginning of this.

6% has been touted as the figure of positive testing so far.

That figure will likely increase given we have 45% community spread.

But even using that figure out of the 40,000 (which is not the figure anymore it's gone up) we have missed 2,400 positive people or almost double our confirmed cases.

That's a big problem and a huge fúck up.

Our data is at least 9+ days if not more behind, where it should be only 3 days.

tobefrank321 · 25-03-2020 05:39PM

rusty cole wrote: »

A friend of ours had to drive to the NAAS test centre over a week ago for a test and has been waiting ever since...this afternoon and ambulance rocks up to swab him for his test!! it was an error and they lost his first one, so he's still waiting on the result and someone has lost a possible test for confirmation. A test which the HSE have now said you must qualify for!

Did he self isolate while waiting for results? He's probably almost over covid19 by now so his result might show as a negative if the wait goes on any longer.

Rob A. Bank · 25-03-2020 05:40PM

But Paddy? Nope... Paddy puts ventilators on a plane to New York!

The above and exporting all the masks manufactured here, in the future may be looked on like exporting corn during An Gorta Mor, in the unfortunate event that we have a high mortality here.

:-(

Snow Garden · 25-03-2020 05:41PM

It will be bright until at least 8pm after March 29th.

lawred2 wrote: »

And?

And we will have way more light in the evenings. It will cheer people up.

lbj666 · 25-03-2020 05:41PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Do we have enough ventilators in this country to treat everyone, if this turns bad like in other countries?

I was of the understanding, that we have less of them than the european average... and yet we produce 50% of the world supply!

What gives?

Most other countries would not accept something like that... but so long as certain people are getting rich off these multinationals, paddy bites his lip and keeps the ball rolling! :rolleyes:

Imagine the other way round, we stash on ventilators like bog roll from the supermarket and the rest of the world finds out.

Lavinia · 25-03-2020 05:41PM

I am not sure what exactly means 'community transmission'

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 05:42PM

mohawk wrote: »

I am in biopharma myself and not med devices so no expert in ventilators. But my experience of pharmaceuticals tells me we import majority of raw materials required to make our products. How different is that in the med device sector? I wonder where all the parts, raw materials etc come from to make those ventilators because if we play games like that we could find ourselves not able to make any ventilators.

Very good point. Why is Germany allowed to ban export of PPE though. Shouldn't it be triaged like other resources? Like Italy / Spain clearly need it way more than they do. If the numbers are anything to go by.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 05:42PM

Lavinia wrote: »

I am not sure what exactly means 'community transmission'

Essentially now it means.

You get infected by someone unknown to you.

marilynrr · 25-03-2020 05:42PM

threeball wrote: »

https://www.classichits.ie/podcasts/niall-boylan/episode/coronavirus-updates-25th-march-2020/?autoplay=1

36.30 onwards

:eek:

Jesus Christ, so the treatment is keeping it from getting worse but now that's cancelled and they say they can offer her some palliative card and pain relief.
That is just not acceptable.

spookwoman · 25-03-2020 05:43PM

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1242853699891933189?s=20

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 05:43PM

growleaves wrote: »

A German infectious diseases specialist said that "Northern Italy is the China of Europe" in terms of air pollution and smoking and that decades of accumulated lung damage had left Italians in a hoop.

I think Germany has better medical care facilities as well.

Well he is misinformed
Italian tobacco consumption is not particularly high..many European countries have much higher rates of consumption, including Germany. Other European countries with much higher rates of cigarette consumption are Croatia, Hungary, Greece, Czech republic and Belgium. Spain is also one place higher than Italy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita

Air quality in Northern Italy is definitely bad he is right there, it is the worst in Europe. But again it is not really anything that exceptional in Europe, much of Europe has very poor air quality, including the industrial east of Germany, London, southern france, the Adriatic coastal nations, Poland. etc

Boggles · 25-03-2020 05:44PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Very good point. Why is Germany allowed to ban export of PPE though. Shouldn't it be triaged like other resources? Like Italy / Spain clearly need it way more than they do. If the numbers are anything to go by.

Germany only banned it to build up their resources.

They are exporting again.

I don't hold that against Germany, I think it was the most prudent decision they could make.

But for some odd reason if the Irish do it we will be destroyed by some sort consequences down the line.

kowloon · 25-03-2020 05:44PM

lbj666 wrote: »

Imagine the other way round, we stash on ventilators like bog roll from the supermarket and the rest of the world finds out.

I wonder how much of the manufacturing capacity would actually be needed for Ireland if we're making 50% of the entire planet's supply. The numbers will be gone over with a fine-tooth lens after this is over, but for now, that horse has sailed the nest.

YFlyer · 25-03-2020 05:45PM

Just had a meal. Laced it with hot chilies. Ending up coughing. Hope my housemates don't expect me to go into isolation.

25-03-2020 05:46PM

Shn99 wrote: »

Just back from the supermarket, first time leaving the house in a week..absolute bag of nerves going in there. Dread to think what ill be like by the 19th of April

Busy? Quiet? I always remember what that doctor from Bergamo tweeted a couple of weeks back about going when its quiet. He considered it very important.

paddythere · 25-03-2020 05:47PM

https://youtu.be/NZpKq8ZdY0Q

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 05:47PM

Boggles wrote: »

Germany only banned it to build up their resources.

They are exporting again.

I don't hold that against Germany, I think it was the most prudent decision they could make.

But for some odd reason if the Irish do it we will be destroyed by some sort consequences down the line.

People need to get some balls at a time like this. Sending frontline staff to confront this pandemic without adequate PPE is breaking the social contract.

They didn't sign up for that.

Lavinia · 25-03-2020 05:47PM

Boggles wrote: »

Essentially now it means.

You get infected by someone unknown to you.

okay thank you

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP