CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

Pseudonym121 · 15-03-2020 11:55PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The market is going to rocket tomorrow because the US Fed is going to inject $700bn of QE and has unveiled a load of other measures today too.

Going to be really strong days on the financial markets for that reason.

I have friends who are doctors in the US hospital sector. It is beginning to dawn on their local hospitals how utterly F'ed they are. The US is going to be hit much, much, much harder than Italy or even Britain.

It may well bounce tomorrow but that's a day trade or a few days at most. As this unfolds in the US over the next year their markets are going to plummet.

Strumms · 15-03-2020 11:55PM

threeball wrote: »

People should report pubs like this from tomorrow.

100% , fûck them... only thing most publicans (and I know a few) are loyal to is the weight of their till... this will be proven..Seriously if there are any in your eye-line doing this, pick up the phone on the scumbags... remember, warm room, dozens in close proximity, less inhibitions.... not good. Happily be a ‘rat’ if it enables people staying alive and healthy.

Irish_rat · 15-03-2020 11:56PM

Anyone else get the mentally ill type watsapp chain message about the lockdown this week coming?

15-03-2020 11:56PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

[F] a) Incubation period for most people is less than 7 days but for almost everyone (or everyone, we're not sure) is about 14 days so people infected today may only develop symptoms on 30th March (roughly).

Not understanding you here?? Are you saying the incubation period (time for exposure to onset of visible symptoms) is 7 days or 14 days for most?

Johns Hopkins was saying the median incubation period was 5.1 days with 97% showing symptoms by day 11.

amacca · 15-03-2020 11:56PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That Spiked asshole Brendan O'Neill is on the press panel which explains everything.

Couldnt agree more

a jumped up arrogant nasty piece of work imo

whiskeyman · 15-03-2020 11:56PM

There's a lot of people worried now.
Myself included.
I can feel my chest tightening all day.

Please try get out for walks.
Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

I know it's hard, but I've found it useful just trying to deal with everything day by day.
Deal with the facts you have today.
Try not to worry about tomorrow or after that. It's just to sore and hard to fathom now.
Focus on the now.

Best of luck everyone.
We will get through this with everyone's help.

Akrasia · 15-03-2020 11:56PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

What are the checkpoints for?

To check stuff

To make sure people are adhering to the restrictions

coolshannagh28 · 15-03-2020 11:56PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The market is going to rocket tomorrow because the US Fed is going to inject $700bn of QE and has unveiled a load of other measures today too.

Going to be really strong days /on the financial markets for that reason.

S+P futures are down 5% ?

daheff · 15-03-2020 11:57PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

What are the checkpoints for?

Lockdown.

We're going to be moving to a state where only essential workers are allowed out, where you can only got to supermarket or pharmacy.

ZX7R · 15-03-2020 11:57PM

threeball wrote: »

Does anyone know if the border closures in Europe are for public traffic only or will freight be impacted too. If that gets locked down then supply chains will start to fail. I presume they will let trucks carrying goods through

Public only , freight transport is ok

spookwoman · 15-03-2020 11:58PM

Must be the only person in ireland that doesn't have whatsapp

Cypher_sounds · 15-03-2020 11:58PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That Spiked asshole Brendan O'Neill is on the press panel which explains everything.

He seems quite spikey and prickly alright. They were shouting at each other just before I posted on here.

fritzelly · 15-03-2020 11:58PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

What are the checkpoints for?

Checking for people smuggling bog roll

Assetbacked · 15-03-2020 11:58PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The market is going to rocket tomorrow because the US Fed is going to inject $700bn of QE and has unveiled a load of other measures today too.

Going to be really strong days on the financial markets for that reason.

David McWilliams had an article in the IT yesterday that QE should involve putting cash into the back accounts of the individuals. The Fed's QE is a bond buying stimulus which doesn't help the individual.

In any event, the Fed has its last roll of the dice here to keep the markets going, but covid19 is barely beginning in the US. This latest move will just inflate the bubble more and when it does crash, due to all this cheap money in the bubble, the effects will be devastating on the US.

Axfrderr · 15-03-2020 11:58PM

Meanwhile in the US of A.....

The LA Times
Quote:
"Liquor, marijuana and guns are also popular among coronavirus hoarders"
"At Martin B. Retting Gun Shop in Culver City, a line of prospective customers stretched outside the door. Inside, they were shoulder to shoulder, waiting up to five hours for service. A fast-food truck was taking orders at the curb."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-14/liquor-marijuana-and-guns-also-popular-among-hoarders-as-fear-grows-over-coronavirus

My dogs will do grand for me when the hoards descend looking for my stash of quilted 3 ply....

Sober Crappy Chemis · 15-03-2020 11:59PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

Please try get out for walks.
Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

True my friend.

I did exactly this today and it was positive for my mental health.

Take care.

threeball · 15-03-2020 11:59PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

I have friends who are doctors in the US hospital sector. It is beginning to dawn on their local hospitals how utterly F'ed they are. The US is going to be hit much, much, much harder than Italy or even Britain.

It may well bounce tomorrow but that's a day trade or a few days at most. As this unfolds in the US over the next year their markets are going to plummet.

Boris and Trump are going to be well and truly exposed after this is over. Two idiots with little regard for anything apart from money and enriching their mates.

Akrasia · 15-03-2020 11:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not understanding you here?? Are you saying the incubation period (time for exposure to onset of visible symptoms) is 7 days or 14 days for most?

John Hopkins was saying the median incubation period was 5.1 days with 97% showing symptoms by day 11.

There are some cases that incubated up to 14 days before displaying symptoms. These may have been false positives in the original testing, but the health authorities have to assume that the incubation period is 14 days

Pseudonym121 · 15-03-2020 11:59PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Anyone know what the recovery rate among people that have been put on ventilators is? Or is there any data for this?

[E] Well, with the caveat that this ONLY applies so long as the number of cases is kept low enough that the health service isn't overwhelmed it appears that:

[F] a) 10% of confirmed cases ( as opposed to total cases in the community ) need to go on ventilators.

[F] b) 2 to 3.5% of CONFIRMED CASES ( as opposed to total cases in the community ) die.

[F] Total number of cases is almost certainly be much more than the number of CONFIRMED CASES. We don't know how much longer although there are epidemiological models you get different numbers depending on the assumptions you plug in and no-one knows which assumptions are correct.

hotmail.com · 15-03-2020 11:59PM

Airlines will request (order) thousands of their staff to take unpaid leave this week.

Ulysses Gaze · 16-03-2020 12:00AM

rogieop wrote: »

Jesus id snap your hand off for this to be all done and dusted in 2 months. I think we are looking at more alomg the lines of august/sept before we see any normality.

If this is to be believed, the UK is truly, truly, utterly ****ed.

Britain's coronavirus crisis 'could last until Spring 2021 with up to 8MILLION people - or 15% of the population - hospitalised, secret NHS briefing reveals' - as death toll leaps 14 in a day to 35

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8114925/Britains-coronavirus-crisis-Spring-2021-7-9million-people-hospitalised.html

blackcard · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That Spiked asshole Brendan O'Neill is on the press panel which explains everything.

I thought it was just me that didn't like this arrogant, smug git.

touts · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

kyote00 wrote: »

aside from the virus, the potential for a global economic collapse is scary also....

Potential? That ship sailed about 6 days ago.

_Kaiser_ · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

I'm down with my little lad since yesterday and staying for the next 2 weeks anyway. Luckily me and his mam still get on to be able to do this.

But, as stupid as this may sound, I'm worried about my own place. What happens if travel restrictions and increased job losses come into play? I don't have much, but I really don't want to arrive home at some stage to find the place cleaned out.

I'm tempted to make another run home and get whatever else I can, but she's very much against it.

Strumms · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

There's a lot of people worried now.
Myself included.
I can feel my chest tightening all day.

Please try get out for walks.
Put your phone down and give yourself a media blackout for a few hours if possible.

I know it's hard, but I've found it useful just trying to deal with everything day by day.
Deal with the facts you have today.
Try not to worry about tomorrow or after that. It's just to sore and hard to fathom now.
Focus on the now.

Best of luck everyone.
We will get through this with everyone's help.

Totally, good advice. Forecast for the next couple of days is mixed with showers in the afternoons so if you plan on getting out for a walk and fresh air plan for morning or early afternoon.

kevcos · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

Such naivety in thinking that a lock-down is some manner of sliver bullet against Coronavirus.
A lock-down is more like instant gratification, in relative terms, for people afraid to face the reality that the majority of historical pandemics lasted years not months.

limnam · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Army have plenty of truck drivers although not sure. We have lots of supermarkets, not so many soldiers.

DOF is about 10k. Large supermarkets bit over 1k?

Should be ok

Bob24 · 16-03-2020 12:01AM

coolshannagh28 wrote: »

S+P futures are down 5% ?

Maybe people wondering why the hell the Fed is making yet another emergency decision even though their next regular meeting is scheduled very soon (Tuesday I believe).

I certainly do wonder - there must be something very wrong in the US financial plumbing (repos have also rampes up like crazy).

tobefrank321 · 16-03-2020 12:02AM

To summarize social isolation, keep to yourself as much as possible. If you have to mix with others keep it to the bare minimum. If you have to shop, pick a quiet time or a quiet shop. Avoid panic buying times. Avoid gatherings and crowds as much as possible including family gatherings. If you meet the extended family for dinner once a week consider taking a break for a couple weeks. Also, kids birthday parties might have to be cancelled or postponed as these bring together a large number of kids and adults. It only takes one person with the virus to spread it to many others.

nacho libre · 16-03-2020 12:02AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

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The approach of managing it numbers wise needs the realization that this will need to be maintained a lot longer than people are thinking and most likely will have accept that said services will very likely see a drop in standards due to the economic knock on cause 2/3 weeks ain't gonna hack it unfortunately.

Of course it will take longer than 2 weeks, but as we have seen
the measure applied in South Korea and China have shown to be effective in improving the situation

Relying on a vaccine as the solution seems flawed, as the virus will hopefully hit its peak in terms of transmission with these measures before a vaccine can likely be produced and deemed safe to use on humans.

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP