CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

ThePopehimself · 15-03-2020 03:59PM

11 New Cases in NI.

Clarence Boddiker · 15-03-2020 03:59PM

lobbylad wrote: »

I don't get the "shut the borders" that seems to now becoming common.

For example, Germany closing the borders to France, the virus is on both sides anyway, and restrictions are in place about people gathering in France.

The virus doesn't know anything about borders, and the resources that have to be deployed to close the borders could surely be better used elsewhere?

And why pick the "lines of closure" along international lines, why for example aren't they closing off cities within Germany from rural areas or isolating various provinces, or isolate towns/regions with no known infections from the outside.

The "shut the border" reaction just seems nationalistic and arbitrary at this point, especially when the virus is already on both sides of the border.

The virus is carried within people who travel through borders. Not difficult to understand.
The 'keep the borders open' reaction seems to be from people who would gladly let the virus spread and people die rather than take any action that might seem 'nationalistic'

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 04:00PM

Necro wrote: »

Again... how? There are over 200 points of entry.

We do not have the manpower to close the border.

Not to mention the other impacts it may have.

We can issue a statement asking people not to travel into and out of both jurisdictions and ask people in the border regions in particular to self isolate and stay indoors. Shut down all non essential services in those areas to discourage movement of people. Open up a dialogue with the Northern Ireland politicians and ask them to ignore the stupid thick moron Johnson and adapt a more sensible approach. (Ask them nicely obviously)

EazyD · 15-03-2020 04:00PM

Just a few minutes ago our local Green Party member was calling around houses asking about votes for the Seanad, my mother answered the door (60, cancer survivor), I could not be more annoyed tbh, absolute fool at a time like this.

Genghis · 15-03-2020 04:00PM

Adiboo wrote: »

Chemist by me is doing a one in one out system. Pharmacist coming out giving people tickets, big queue of people outside.

Maybe this is just me but let's say one customer in the queue is contagious. If the queue takes 15 mins or more, this system would be better at ensuring an infection than letting people in and out faster.

Or are they ensuring a 2m distance in the queue.

rob316 · 15-03-2020 04:00PM

ITman88 wrote: »

I think 2 weeks is the maximum we can commit to, after that it will look exactly like you have predicted!
Not to mention the stress on marriages!

4 was hugely optimistic, hospitality is going to be wiped out in 2 weeks anyway. I hope retail can stay open freely, alot of people work in that and its largely minimum wage, it supports the real working poor.

SharpshooterTom · 15-03-2020 04:00PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I strongly suspect both polls were influenced by a certain St Petersburg "research" group as most things are these days related to Russia.

What next? A poll to tell us the Sochi Olympics were the cleanest ever?

I knew I would get the Russian conspiracy comments if I linked Sputnik, which I shouldn't of.

Okay lets link a poll done by the UK Mirror

https://www.mirror.co.uk/interactives/russia-2018-greatest-world-cup-12929264

2018 winning it comfortably.

The BBC poll during the 2014 WC was an open vote by British residents only. 2014 won it by a mile on that.

SkySports ran a poll asking who were the greatest Premier League team ever last month.

Who won it? Liverpool 2019/20.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1219243942564311041
Deny it all you want but recency bias is huge and there's no realistic way of quantifying this coronavirus news event until a few years from now.

Spook_ie · 15-03-2020 04:01PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Or
C no immunity due to multiple mutations. This virus already mutated so much that vaccination is not viable option.
https://nextstrain.org/

In which case it will no longer be CoVid19 but CoVid20 or whatever, and if still as virilent or more than CoVid19 just as much or more of a problem.

completedit · 15-03-2020 04:01PM

ZX7R wrote: »

In reality we might not have to close our borders,
As most countries have done so already.
There will be very little travel by air from today onwards

Just let our nearest neighbor who have shown no care for curtailing the virus to move back and forth at will. Even if it is Irish people coming back, the virus doesn’t know that, it’s just people who have been living their lives as normal while the rest of us are in quarantine mode. I suppose though, I gather there is testing now at the airports given that the traffic is much more manageable. How the **** HSE workers were telling people coming back from Cheltenham to ‘see how they are’ just boggles the mind.

wakka12 · 15-03-2020 04:01PM

What is even the point in closing borders at this stage? Germany probably has more cases than all the countries it closed it's borders to, and I'd imagine air travel around Europe is pretty close to zero currently

otnomart · 15-03-2020 04:01PM

Germany about to close border with France
was just reported by French TV BFM.

https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/en-direct-coronavirus-les-francais-places-en-confinement-les-elections-municipales-maintenues/

Honestly both their Govs have been so cavalier about the rising number of cases, and they both have a high number, that I think it is too late now

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 04:01PM

lobbylad wrote: »

I don't get the "shut the borders" that seems to now becoming common.

For example, Germany closing the borders to France, the virus is on both sides anyway, and restrictions are in place about people gathering in France.

The virus doesn't know anything about borders, and the resources that have to be deployed to close the borders could surely be better used elsewhere?

And why pick the "lines of closure" along international lines, why for example aren't they closing off cities within Germany from rural areas or isolating various provinces, or isolate towns/regions with no known infections from the outside.

The "shut the border" reaction just seems nationalistic and arbitrary at this point, especially when the virus is already on both sides of the border.

There's nothing nationalistic about it. it's simply using borders that are there to try to restrict movement of people.

regedit · 15-03-2020 04:01PM

wakka12 wrote: »

190 new cases in Malaysia this morning. Over 35C there right now. Same in tropical parts of the United States, 40 new cases in Florida this morning.Also more than 50 new cases in Australia and 29 new cases and 3 more deaths in the Phillippines. Now looking very unlikely that hot or tropical weather stops the virus.

There's nothing to say that high temperatures kill the virus. Some previous epidemics have weaned during summer months probably due to the virus development cycle rather than warm weather

Fr Tod Umptious · 15-03-2020 04:02PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Bigger picture is life not economy.

But the two are not mutually exclusive.

How are things going to be if you are alive but you have no money left for food because all the employers had to shut down and could not employ or pay anyone.

Or if this no food available because all the suppliers/producers were out of business and could not supply/produce anything.

People think it's a binary choice, it's not, businesses have to keep going to keep people alive, the economy has to continue to function.

positivenote · 15-03-2020 04:02PM

How long does it take before symptoms surface? I’ve not been in work since Wednesday and have had little contact with anyone outside of my family since, apart from going to shops and walks whilst constantly washing hands and maintaining distance. No one in family is showing signs of symptoms but kids were in school on Thursday so that’s only 3 days ago

SeaBreezes · 15-03-2020 04:02PM

Tippex wrote: »

Why do you think Epilepsy is classed as one of the underlying conditions?
I have Epilepsy and I would not consider myself to have an underlying condition, I also have not seen this mentioned by any anyone qualified to do so.

CDC published it as an underlying condition. Any form of neurological issues.
I published a link to it previously.

Cork to Go into lockdown tomorrow.

DrumSteve · 15-03-2020 04:02PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Or
C no immunity due to multiple mutations. This virus already mutated so much that vaccination is not viable option.
https://nextstrain.org/

Source?

alastair · 15-03-2020 04:02PM

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

The virus is carried within people who travel through borders. Not difficult to understand.
The 'keep the borders open' reaction seems to be from people who would gladly let the virus spread and people die rather than take any action that might seem 'nationalistic'

There’s no greater risk from someone crossing a border, than there is from travelling any other equivalent distance. You planning on cutting Cork off from Limerick too?

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 04:02PM

wakka12 wrote: »

You mean in total?

It's from the Guardian feed via AP @ 14.51.

Spain says deaths from the coronavirus have more than doubled in a day to 288, with the number of infections near 8,000, Associated Press reports.

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 04:03PM

otnomart wrote: »

Germany about to close border with France
was just reported by French TV BFM.

https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/en-direct-coronavirus-les-francais-places-en-confinement-les-elections-municipales-maintenues/

Honestly both their Govs have been so cavalier about the rising number of cases, and they both have a high number, that I think it is too late now

Politicians gotta make it look like they're in control

Even though they're behind the curve

galaxy12 · 15-03-2020 04:03PM

lobbylad wrote: »

I don't get the "shut the borders" that seems to now becoming common.

For example, Germany closing the borders to France, the virus is on both sides anyway, and restrictions are in place about people gathering in France.

The virus doesn't know anything about borders, and the resources that have to be deployed to close the borders could surely be better used elsewhere?

And why pick the "lines of closure" along international lines, why for example aren't they closing off cities within Germany from rural areas or isolating various provinces, or isolate towns/regions with no known infections from the outside.

The "shut the border" reaction just seems nationalistic and arbitrary at this point, especially when the virus is already on both sides of the border.

I don't see shutting borders with ni making any sense and there are lower Cases in ni and shutting borders may be impractical and impossible in many areas in the short term at least.
What I see being missed here in hse's plan is a strategy to tackle the outbreak but multiplying the testing rate. They are delaying the testing by staying home and avoiding further outbreak.
If we see examples where they have successfully tllimited or tailed off the growth quicker -s'pore, s Korea and HK -these places have a much higher density of population and the big difference is that they started testing much much earlier rather than delay testing.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Tootsie_1 · 15-03-2020 04:03PM

https://twitter.com/1GaryGannon/status/1239123527447515136

d51984 · 15-03-2020 04:04PM

Ive just temporally deleted my Facebook account before I start getting in to trouble for exploding off on certain clowns.

Its nice to have this thread and to see so many people talking sense and taking this as serious as we should.

We will get by this Ireland, there will be deaths, there will be tears, but by god we will get by.

spookwoman · 15-03-2020 04:04PM

Todays Total New Cases 48,213 Total Deaths 1,796

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VnTtGtEGyzDr1sAdoFieLpUeUUP0mbzryebHGUbISj4/edit?usp=sharing

Dontfadeaway · 15-03-2020 04:05PM

Was just announced the pubs in temple bar are all closing

Lashes28 · 15-03-2020 04:06PM

Will the numbers be released of infections in Ireland?

ShooterSF · 15-03-2020 04:06PM

paddy19 wrote: »

Medtronic in Galway are a key supplier.

Should we exporting ventilators?

Yes because we're not selfish aholes. People in other countries need them too.

Cody montana · 15-03-2020 04:06PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

CDC published it as an underlying condition. Any form of neurological issues.
I published a link to it previously.

Cork to Go into lockdown tomorrow.

What do you mean lockdown?

Cheerful Spring2 · 15-03-2020 04:06PM

Someone online posted this.

Britain's approach has three core elements: enact social distancing measures much more slowly than other countries; shield at-risk groups like the elderly and sick from contact with the general population; and then let COVID-19 slowly sweep through everybody else.

Frankly this is culling of the old in the UK as you can't protect the old when you have no government measures of isolation. Letting the virus spread to everyone is a nutty strategy. We need to think about closing our border to the UK soon probably next few days. We can't have people coming here from the UK, when they like.

harr · 15-03-2020 04:06PM

On sky news ...the brits might ask over 70,s to stay insides but probably not for a few weeks yet.
Liverpool half Marathon ran this morning as did the bath half marathon. Why does the British government think they won’t be the same as other countries.

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP