CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

Cartel Mike · 15-03-2020 03:26PM

Dosn't need to be said but i guess for alot younger posters who dont live at home and have an elderly parent/grandparents [and may or may not be on the slightly self-centered cough..(lets just say 'forgetfull')

side] ; give your elederlys a ring every day if you can. You'd be surprised at how secretly worried they are right now and it really matters to them that they know you actually care about them ..makes a world of difference.
As i say i'm sure this is already the case.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 15-03-2020 03:27PM

youreadthat wrote: »

I thought someone here said it was the UK population who were poorly educated?

If you can’t get immunity from the body successfully fighting the virus and recovering a vaccine won’t work either! They require the same response from the immune system to work!

Exactly, no immunity once infected means vaccine if ever there was one would useless.

There are no vaccines available for any of the coronaviruses, yet people are still thinking there will be a chink of light with a treatment or vaccine.

No, there won't and this is why you see countries taking extreme measure.

Influenza is not Coronavirus.

Achasanai · 15-03-2020 03:27PM

cnoc wrote: »

Can someone list names of underlying illnesses - I couldn't get very much info in Google.

Here's an article posted earlier:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/11/10-medical-conditions-the-cdc-says-increase-the-risk-of-severe-coronavirus-illness/

Nibs05 · 15-03-2020 03:27PM

d51984 wrote: »

This is starting to have a knock on affect at Dublin airport now. The delayed and cancelled flights to the USA are still at their stands and blocking any arrivals from using them.

This mornings Emirates flight has been sitting at the end of the runway for over 3 hours unable to offload passengers. This is just the start of it.

I see Aer Lingius are flying out empty to Spain now to bring the Irish home.

Looking like all EI transatlantic flights will be cancelled from 4am Tuesday.

Strazdas · 15-03-2020 03:27PM

all about the mane wrote: »

All non essential travel needs to be stopped. But the economic channels have to remain open. If we don’t have an economy we have so much more pain coming down the tracks

I do think the economy can quickly recover from this though. If there were clear signs the virus was on the retreat, you would see a surge in consumer confidence.

TheCitizen · 15-03-2020 03:27PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Bit of a stretch there again pal.
They are the most at risk group.

Are you making excuses for Johnson? Johnson is an idiot, a dangerous and stupid moron. That's what you end up with when a majority of the electorate in that country decide to collectively take leave of their senses.

circadian · 15-03-2020 03:28PM

CoronaKid wrote: »

As I said before if you are in contact with people who are at risk of dying from the virus then don't go out and maybe contract it. But if you are not then I don't see the issue, if someone dies because of how would it be my fault?

Because if you do fall ill, and require hospitalisation then you'll be taking up resources when it could have easily been avoided if you had taken some responsibility for your actions and realise the effects they can have on people you don't even know.

I can't believe this has to be explained.

wakka12 · 15-03-2020 03:28PM

Zimbabwe Minister for Defence says coronavirus is God's punishment of the West for the sanctions they imposed on African countries
https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-gods-punishment-of-the-west-zimbabwe-defence-minister-2117045.html?utm_campaign=fullarticle&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=inshorts

bodhrandude · 15-03-2020 03:28PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Handmaids tale comes to mind

That will be starting up next month again, unless it has been postponed too.

The_Brood · 15-03-2020 03:28PM

d51984 wrote: »

I see Aer Lingius are flying out empty to Spain now to bring the Irish home.

Erm, what? If that is true, I hope under strict and prolonged quarantine? If they are allowed to just walk freely out the airport it would be like injecting the virus directly into your veins. Government officials who would allow such a thing need to be arrested.

Edit: https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/2020/02/27/covid-19-update

Yep, looks like no quarantine or even screening at all. Virus welcome full-blast full-speed ahead. Absolutely incredible. This is murder.

revelman · 15-03-2020 03:29PM

Big news

https://twitter.com/Off_CoV19_2020/status/1239194170553708544

Wibbs · 15-03-2020 03:29PM

Talisman wrote: »

The expression "Ignorance is bliss" comes to mind. People who don't keep themselves informed about what is going on are likely to carry on as normal.

I know people who are bright and informed and yet they continue on as if nothing has really changed. People want and seek comfort in routine and normalcy. It's a human trait and this denial is a way many, if not most people cope. And sadly it often ramps up in the lead in to a crisis, because more than ever they want normal to stay normal.

Eric Cartman · 15-03-2020 03:30PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

That will be starting up next month again, unless it has been postponed too.

No idea why everyone keeps referencing that show as a realistic outcome of anything or draws parallels to it.

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 03:30PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Zimbabwe Minister for Defence says coronavirus is God's punishment of the West for the sanctions they imposed on African countries
https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-gods-punishment-of-the-west-zimbabwe-defence-minister-2117045.html?utm_campaign=fullarticle&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=inshorts

Channelling his inner Mugabe!

Strazdas · 15-03-2020 03:30PM

ZX7R wrote: »

European central bank don't see it this way, trade will bounce back quickly, and grouth you can download a detailed pdf about it and there out look includes lock downs ,but tourism is going to be decimated even they admitted to that.
Economics will definitely be different as will how we trade in stocks.
High yield short term trading could be a thing of the past

Even tourism will bounce back in time. The virus is everywhere in the developed world, not just in certain countries : if the virus can be beaten down, you will see a huge surge in people wanting to travel again.

CrabRevolution · 15-03-2020 03:31PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I wouldn't trust anything I see on social media. Any internet crank can upload a video and claim it's something else - and then it gets retweeted hundreds of times.

It was like last month when Met Éireann gave a status red warning for 2/3 counties and a yellow for another 6ish counties on the west of the country. Someone on Twitter then created a map of their personal feelings on what the warnings should be, covering half the country in red warnings and the rest in yellow.

This totally baseless,unofficial map was the one that caught traction, was being shared on facebook + twitter etc. even being picked up on content-gathering sites etc.

Talisman · 15-03-2020 03:31PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

We'll probably have a vaccine for this within 18 months.

It's a coronavirus, they mutate over time and a vaccine for this one may have little to no effect on a future mutation. The only way to truly eradicate it is to wipe out the reservoirs of the virus and in this case it seems too late for that.

Wibbs · 15-03-2020 03:32PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

No idea why everyone keeps referencing that show as a realistic outcome of anything or draws parallels to it.

Aye. It can be read as a rape fantasy drama for some and a fear of returning to a time that never actually existed.

ITman88 · 15-03-2020 03:32PM

rob316 wrote: »

I'd imagine the shutting up shop for more than 4 weeks would be the max the country could sustain. Someone said 16 weeks. There would be mass riots, breakdown in society, banks meltdown, social welfare system . Alot of small business won't be liquid come the 30th March if the restrictions are lifted anyway.
It would make the 2008 recession look like a bad day at the exchange.

The bigger picture will have to be looked at in a few weeks time.

I think 2 weeks is the maximum we can commit to, after that it will look exactly like you have predicted!
Not to mention the stress on marriages!

pawdee · 15-03-2020 03:32PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Herd immunity will be a disaster for all cows !

Shtamp out scour!

Kermit.de.frog · 15-03-2020 03:32PM

revelman wrote: »

Big news

https://twitter.com/Off_CoV19_2020/status/1239194170553708544

Finally, they do what they should of well before.

We have the green light now to close our borders.

JP Liz V1 · 15-03-2020 03:34PM

cnoc wrote: »

Can someone list names of underlying illnesses - I couldn't get very much info in Google.

High Blood Pressure, Asthma, CF and Diabetes

revelman · 15-03-2020 03:34PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Finally, they do what they should of well before.

We have the green light now to close our borders.

I thought the same thing. This actually creates an important precedent for every other country in Europe. Portugal for example has been dithering about closing its border with Spain but needed to get “EU approval” first. They should just close it.

pjohnson · 15-03-2020 03:35PM

rob316 wrote: »

I'd imagine the shutting up shop for more than 4 weeks would be the max the country could sustain. Someone said 16 weeks. There would be mass riots, breakdown in society, banks meltdown, social welfare system . Alot of small business won't be liquid come the 30th March if the restrictions are lifted anyway.
It would make the 2008 recession look like a bad day at the exchange.

The bigger picture will have to be looked at in a few weeks time.

Bigger picture is life not economy.

Gynoid · 15-03-2020 03:35PM

Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »

There are no vaccines available for any of the coronaviruses, yet people are still thinking there will be a chink of light with a treatment or vaccine.

.....

Influenza is not Coronavirus.

That is sobering.

I read this article just now when checking to see if there were no vaccines for other coronaviruses. The amount of investment it would have taken in 2016 would have been tiny compared to what will be lost now.
Also interesting re amplified effect in animals of symptoms when they were previously trialing for SARS vaccine
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/scientists-were-close-coronavirus-vaccine-years-ago-then-money-dried-n1150091

BLIZZARD7 · 15-03-2020 03:36PM

ZX7R wrote: »

European central bank don't see it this way, trade will bounce back quickly, and grouth you can download a detailed pdf about it and there out look includes lock downs ,but tourism is going to be decimated even they admitted to that.
Economics will definitely be different as will how we trade in stocks.
High yield short term trading could be a thing of the past

The ECB are hardly going to be going around screaming panic either to be fair. But yeah they do acknowledge some of the problems coming alright. Look at what they did after 2008 though, QE and lowering interest rates. Interest rates are negative now and dropping them further could have awful consequences, similar for QE - you want to avoid rapid inflation when this all calms down. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place in my opinion.

mcgucc22 · 15-03-2020 03:37PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

We'll probably have a vaccine for this within 18 months.

HIV/AIDS still doesn't even have a cure 40 years on even today. It even took 15 years for any sort of treatment to keep people living longer.

The economic effects will likely be less drastic than the 2008-09 crash, there will be a sharp dip with a likely quicker recovery from what we experienced with the slow never ending recovery from 2008-09.

I know how recency bias works given what I read in the sports forums, every current world cup is best ever (2018 is currently, 2014 was before that), every premier league season is the best ever, people were declaring the current Liverpool side the greatest football team ever only a few weeks back, better than Brazil 1970, Milan 88-95, Barcelona 09-12 etc. Every current sportstar is the best ever, every bond movie is the best ever, people were coming out of the cinema's saying The Force Awakens was better than Empire Strikes Back.

I accept this pandemic has more a drastic effect on sports, travel, globalisation etc than previous pandemics including AIDS.

Again for me it will be interesting to see how this pandemic fares over this summer, because next summer we'll likely be on the way out of this you would hope.

Nobody says 2018 was the best World Cup ever.

tobefrank321 · 15-03-2020 03:37PM

I'm probably going to repeat this post a few times until the message gets through.

Its critically important to wash your hands before leaving the house to go to the shops. If you are carrying a mild form of coronavirus you could easily spread it to someone else in the shop, by handling products you don't buy, handling money or using a pinpad or else using a shopping basket. Its also important to hand sanitize after you leave the shop to prevent potentially bringing coronavirus home.

So hand sanitize before and after shopping.

SharpshooterTom · 15-03-2020 03:37PM

Can't believe Japan are still saying the Olympics will go ahead with 1000s dying. Utter lunacy.

wpd · 15-03-2020 03:37PM

why is the goverment still allowing tourists to travel here
should they not be closing borders except to residents?

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP