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Formula 1 2020 - General Discussion Thread (See MOD warning on first post)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Theres now 11 hours until FP1

    According to journos the Team Principals started a meeting about an hour ago about the race fate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    Two threads discussing the same topic.. wonder could it be kept to one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Yeah it's off

    What a shambles. At the last minute!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Real Craggy Island stuff there from the Aussie governance & the FIA. The amount of people from around the world already there now in Australia, the cars, teams, equipment, the whole thing ready to rock...& they postpone it. Should have been done a week ago. Lewis' comments were spot on, & fair play to him for being honest (and also McLaren, fair fooks to them for taking the action necessary).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Just been listening to the Autosport podcast. Apparently it's a game of chicken between Liberty and the Australian organisers. If Liberty pull the plug then they have to refund the Australian organisers the money paid. If the organisers pull out then Liberty keep the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I was kinda hoping that Formula 1 would not be a victim of this fecking Coronavirus pandemic but its the right thing to do. Its the only international sport that I really care about.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah it's off

    What a shambles. At the last minute!

    Right decision though. The notion that so many people should have ever travelled to Australia at a time like this, is incredible. But it seems that people are beginning to see the sense in taking serious steps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    AMKC wrote: »
    I was kinda hoping that Formula 1 would not be a victim of this fecking Coronavirus pandemic but its the right thing to do. Its the only international sport that I really care about.

    I think this thing will affect the sports you care about as much as the sports you don't care about. I couldn't give a tuppenny fcuk about football but I'm sorry to see the rugby cancelled. Right thing to do though.

    It looks like the Wales Scotland game is going ahead but I expect the pro 14 to be suspended before it's scheduled to start again next weekend. If we're serious about the virus then it's the right thing to do. Of we don't really care about the virus then these events should go ahead and just accept the death toll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    flazio wrote: »
    Just been listening to the Autosport podcast. Apparently it's a game of chicken between Liberty and the Australian organisers. If Liberty pull the plug then they have to refund the Australian organisers the money paid. If the organisers pull out then Liberty keep the money.

    That's pretty much what Hamilton alluded to when he said, "Cash is King"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I think this thing will affect the sports you care about as much as the sports you don't care about. I couldn't give a tuppenny fcuk about football but I'm sorry to see the rugby cancelled. Right thing to do though.

    It looks like the Wales Scotland game is going ahead but I expect the pro 14 to be suspended before it's scheduled to start again next weekend. If we're serious about the virus then it's the right thing to do. Of we don't really care about the virus then these events should go ahead.

    Oh I agree it is effecting everything and all of us now.

    I watch Ireland in the Rugby and I watch Ireland in the soccer too but don't care about of the football league in the UK or any of that crap.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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    Unfortunate but the right decision. Handled poorly though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    I didn't even know there was a Grand Prix this weekend until I heard it had been cancelled. It's mad how the sport seems to have fallen so far off most people's radar since it went behind the paywall. Ten or twenty years ago, I would've been counting down the days, obsessively consuming all the season preview supplements and every bullshit "This is Coulthard's Year" article in F1 Racing magazine. But now, nothing...

    Great to see that they still handle crises appallingly though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I didn't even know there was a Grand Prix this weekend until I heard it had been cancelled. It's mad how the sport seems to have fallen so far off most people's radar since it went behind the paywall. Ten or twenty years ago, I would've been counting down the days, obsessively consuming all the season preview supplements and every bullshit "This is Coulthard's Year" article in F1 Racing magazine. But now, nothing...

    Great to see that they still handle crises appallingly though.

    No no, you're wrong. An internet survey says so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Luimneach2018


    First four races (including the already postponed China) could most likely not go ahead in my opinion.

    Very difficult to see how a postponed race can be rescheduled, this was the most condensed calendar yet. The August break could be used but would teams be receptive to a trip to Australia or Asia in that period?

    If anything the August break would be best reserved for any of the Dutch/Spanish/Monaco GP's should the postponements go that deep into the year.

    Logistically could the likes of Melbourne or Hanoi even be able to reschedule a race later in the year as they are street circuits and I'm imagine would need to go through a lot more red tape than the traditional custom built race circuits?

    The weekend in between the Russian and Japanese GP's makes sense for the Chinese GP as China is along the way in terms of the trip across.

    Races into the middle of December?!

    Interested to see how it all unfolds. Australia was poorly handled though. Hopefully lessons have been learned, but I suspect not, as pointed out by a previous poster; cash is king...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    The only solution is to re-schedule the Australian GP at Mount Panorama later in the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    Paddy@CIRL wrote: »
    The only solution is to re-schedule the Australian GP at Mount Panorama later in the year.

    That would be amazing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Thisonedone


    Hamilton is such a cry baby, always trying to get races called off. He should just retire now given he is so scared of racing instead of ruining things for everyone.

    Why can’t they just go ahead with it without the crowd?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭Harika


    ATM F1 is going ahead as planned. Meanwhile IndyCar excluded spectators from the first Race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I didn't even know there was a Grand Prix this weekend until I heard it had been cancelled. It's mad how the sport seems to have fallen so far off most people's radar since it went behind the paywall. Ten or twenty years ago, I would've been counting down the days, obsessively consuming all the season preview supplements and every bullshit "This is Coulthard's Year" article in F1 Racing magazine. But now, nothing...

    Great to see that they still handle crises appallingly though.

    No no, you're wrong. An internet survey says so.

    Ah sure nah the sport is doomed I tells ye. The same as it has been doomed to declining interest every single yeae since 2002 when Ferrari pissed a whole year. If people keep saying it every year it must eventually be true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Luimneach2018


    Hamilton is such a cry baby, always trying to get races called off. He should just retire now given he is so scared of racing instead of ruining things for everyone.

    Why can’t they just go ahead with it without the crowd?

    Jesus! Is he going out with your ex or something?!:eek:

    It wasn't cancelled because of him anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Is there any official confirmation the race is off??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Hamilton is such a cry baby, always trying to get races called off. He should just retire now given he is so scared of racing instead of ruining things for everyone.

    Why can’t they just go ahead with it without the crowd?

    He's right in this instance. The virus is bigger than f1. They should have never gone to Australia. Now they're there they could do the race behind closed doors. But it acknowledges the gravity of the situation to close up and go home safely. International sport is over for the foreseeable future. Domestic sports are over too. This isn't about a single race.

    The season might not get going until after the summer. If the virus bounces around for a few months, then they'll be extra keen to stamp it out by banning frivolous travel like f1. So the restrictions will only get tighter over the next few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Is there any official confirmation the race is off??

    Supposedly track marshals have been told to report for duty.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭Harika


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Supposedly track marshals have been told to report for duty.....

    Austrian F1 TV commentators on the way to Airport out of Australia already. See Twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Reddit saying fans are beginning to queue at the track

    2+ people saying they are staff at the track, marshals etc and they have been told in the last few minutes everything is going ahead.

    Teams heading to the track and all marshals have been told race is going ahead from a journalist that goes by Motorsport Broadcasting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Ah sure nah the sport is doomed I tells ye. The same as it has been doomed to declining interest every single yeae since 2002 when Ferrari pissed a whole year. If people keep saying it every year it must eventually be true.

    It's gone beyond mere 'declining interest' in recent years. As far as the public consciousness is concerned, it might as well not exist anymore.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    GarIT wrote: »
    Reddit saying fans are beginning to queue at the track

    2+ people saying they are staff at the track, marshals etc and they have been told in the last few minutes everything is going ahead.

    Teams heading to the track and all marshals have been told race is going ahead from a journalist that goes by Motorsport Broadcasting

    If this is right I see it going like USA 2005


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    pjohnson wrote: »
    If this is right I see it going like USA 2005


    It's a game of political chicken. Liberty Media will have to refund Australia if they cancel. Rumour is that Liberty has insurance that covers the teams pulling out. If Melbourne/Australia cancel then they have to pay the bills.

    There is currently a 2 seater Minardi doing laps of the track. Marshals and other staff are in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    Sky sports confirmed it is postponed this evening after a meeting of team principles.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11956439/f1s-australian-gp-to-be-cancelled-after-coronavirus-case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Sky sports confirmed it is postponed this evening after a meeting of team principles.


    They have since deleted that I believe. Adam Cooper F1 says fans are being admitted to the track, everyone preparing as usual.

    Maybe they haven't deleted it as seen in your edit, maybe it was a tweet they deleted.

    Chris Medland says there are rumours the race will be cancelled but it is currently going ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    GarIT wrote: »
    They have since deleted that I believe. Adam Cooper F1 says fans are being admitted to the track, everyone preparing as usual.

    Maybe they haven't deleted it as seen in your edit, maybe it was a tweet they deleted.

    I know there are support races like V8 supercars which are still going ahead I believe. Looking at the V8 supercars teams on social media, it looks like they are ploughing on. Pity sky wouldn't show that instead. Some good elbows it racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Numerous sources saying it's going ahead, one or two saying the F1 teams are arriving as usual.

    Alfa Tauri mechanic has said they they are expecting confirmation either way in 30 mins, has been told to be prepared to start dismantaling but also to continue to set up at the moment.

    Max Verstappens head mechanic is at the track to work and has said he has no idea what is happening.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    This is nuts, such a typical F1 way of handling a crises :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭Harika


    Latest rumours
    Team's voted 5:5 so race will go ahead
    Hamilton, Vettel and raikonnen on the way home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    BBC journalist are saying they can confirm Vettel and Raikkonen have already left Australia. Legally the race cannot be easily cancelled, verbally it has been cancelled.

    https://clyp.it/aehvd2ep


  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭BikeRacer


    They've delayed opening the gates so fans are just waiting in limbo. 3 hours to FP1 and they've no idea what's going on. What a sh1tshow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,441 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That priest in father Ted kicking a hole in the door and shouting "cowboys teds, cowboys" comes to mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Alfa Romeo, Haas, Racing Point, Williams, AlphaTauri, Red Bull are at the track preparing for FP1, unknown where the rest are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Raikkonen and Vettel are confirmed to have left Australia and rumours Hamilton has aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭Harika


    Report from curfew - only 6 teams showed up and entered paddock. No
    @McLarenF1
    of course but
    @ScuderiaFerrari
    ,
    @MercedesAMGF1
    and
    @RenaultF1Team
    absent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭Harika


    Race goes on, no spectators ... Well played


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Permier of Victoria Daniel Andrews says he gave the Grand Prix organisers the choice of a race without fans or no race but they haven't told the hundreds if not thousands of fans queuing outside now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Harika wrote: »
    Race goes on, no spectators ... Well played


    If it does we have two if not three drivers halfway to Abu Dhabi for their connecting flight. They wont get back before the end of FP2.


    There are reports that Diamler, the owner of Mercedes, has decided Mercedes are not permitted to race regardless of circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Killinator


    It's embarrassing at this stage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    GarIT wrote: »
    Permier of Victoria Daniel Andrews says he gave the Grand Prix organisers the choice of a race without fans or no race but they haven't told the hundreds if not thousands of fans queuing outside now.

    Going to be an awful lot of very annoyed fans but its the right thing to do.

    As for the small teams racing they are there now so you can't blame them. They might get some points.

    Anyone here the joke about the British,

    the Italian,

    the German,

    and the French

    Cars.

    No me either. I just wanted to but that there as that is where them 4 teams are from but 3 have bases in the U.K.

    Just saying they are the big teams they can afford to miss races maybe the small teams can not.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭BikeRacer


    Andrew Benson/BBC just gave an update saying the race is called off, even if the organisers aren't admitting it. Farcical stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Killinator wrote: »
    It's embarrassing at this stage!

    Well, it is and it isn't. It's not liberty media's job to worry about the spread of the virus. It's their job to make money. And presumably there is some legal brinkmanship in the background. Whoever blinks first, loses a lot of money. I don't expect to ever know the internal workings of the legal process.
    I'll just go to sleep and see what's happened in the morning.

    They all look stupid from our perspective right now, but not as stupid as they'd look when they'd have to go explain to their boss why they lost millions by not just holding out until the last minute.


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