Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Strazdas · 10-03-2020 08:48PM

fr336 wrote: »

Something alarming like Italy going into lockdown? :pac:

No, to answer your question. Five or ten such EU countries in lockdown would be a different matter.

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2020 08:48PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237465142851514370?s=19

retro:electro · 10-03-2020 08:48PM

tom1ie · 10-03-2020 08:49PM

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

The symptom analysis is scary but then the age analysis explains it. Only 23.4% of cases are under 50? Only 1.4% are under 19? That shows that cases of young people with the virus are not being picked up as they have v little symptoms so the absence of such asymptomatic cases is skewing the symptoms data and making it look far more severe than it is (not that it isnt severe enough obviously)

Someone asked for the original link
Italy publishes: number of tests; positives; hospitalised; in intensive care; age profile of victims; comorbidities of victims https://www.iss.it/cor...E/content/id/5292020? and http://opendatadpc.map...ml#/dae18c330e8e4093

SusanC10 · 10-03-2020 08:50PM

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Cuckoo7 · 10-03-2020 08:51PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Someone asked for the original link
Italy publishes: number of tests; positives; hospitalised; in intensive care; age profile of victims; comorbidities of victims https://www.iss.it/cor...E/content/id/5292020? and http://opendatadpc.map...ml#/dae18c330e8e4093

None of those links work for me?

CinemaGuy45 · 10-03-2020 08:51PM

Strazdas wrote: »

No, to answer your question. Five or ten such EU countries in lockdown would be a different matter.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D

Italy has the 3rd biggest population in the EU only France and Germany are bigger.

RandomName2 · 10-03-2020 08:52PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

fr336 · 10-03-2020 08:52PM

Strazdas wrote: »

No, to answer your question. Five or ten such EU countries in lockdown would be a different matter.

To be honest two or three EU countries in lockdown would be more than enough to scare me into action. If Italy, France and Germany were to go to such extremes, something is seriously wrong. And if happened in the UK that would be a screaming red siren for Ireland.

smelly sock · 10-03-2020 08:53PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

1.9 million to be infected. 85k deaths if that happens.

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2020 08:53PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Most people, even those in a high risk group, will be just fine. Its very worrying I know, and I've talked to my parents too (70's).

Keep it balanced and inject a sense of humour into the conversation too. No point in them worrying themselves to death. And be there for them.

twirlagig · 10-03-2020 08:53PM

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't understand the obsession with knowing where the cases are.

Surely people should take the exact same precautions no matter where.

It's a rapidly moving contagious disease and we are a small country.

Just assume it's everywhere because if it isn't it soon will be.

I hear what you’re saying but I honestly think a lot of people won’t take action unless it’s on their doorstep. I fully agree that we should be making every effort we can, I’m in Galway btw, but going by some of the opinions I hear from people ... (‘ah, the west... sure that’s probably Mayo.. etc)
I really think the counties, at least, should be named.

otnomart · 10-03-2020 08:54PM

Xertz wrote: »

I'm just wondering about the psychology of this. We could probably all put up with this for a month or two, living like recluses and avoiding contact and so on, but there'll come a point where there's serious issues with how this psychologically impacts a lot of people.

Mental health helplines should ramp up support there.
Or even having a dedicated HSE support line dedicated to this.

Drumpot · 10-03-2020 08:54PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

People over 70 , particularly with underlying medical conditions should certainly read up on this and make their own call about taking steps to start self isolating now. Nobody can look at Italy’s numbers and rationally suggest they should wait until we might get there before really starting to weigh up social decisions they make going forward. And for the “will somebody please think about the economy” crowd, at least the economy can carry on while the more vulnerable are a little more protected.

gmisk · 10-03-2020 08:54PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

Leo was saying y'day possibly 50/60% of the population could get it...
So yeah 85k deaths is possible if we get high number of infections

KWAG2019 · 10-03-2020 08:54PM

Bobtheman wrote: »

So no school closures ?

There’s a curiosity around that given a GPs online insistence that there were cases in his area and repeated demands from him that schools be closed. So far it seems there is no news of that happening. Perhaps none of this evenings cases were schoolchildren.

PHET seems to be sticking to its guns that there is no need for wider school closure or limits on visitors to hospitals or nursing homes. Given what’s coming out from Italy from doctors about the consequences of delay they seem very confident that they are right. One to watch.

Drumpot · 10-03-2020 08:55PM

otnomart wrote: »

Mental health helplines should ramp up support there.
Or even having a dedicated HSE support line dedicated to this.

That might be actually where we could ask our retired professional workers to help out. Instead of being on the frontline , be on the end of a line to chat with people?!

CinemaGuy45 · 10-03-2020 08:55PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

I know how you feel.

We are still here nobody knows for sure what is going to happen.

Could a small number of people get the shopping for your mum so she does not have to go out during this time?

If you think you might be infected stay away.

Downlinz · 10-03-2020 08:55PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

5% death rate of 1.9m infected as was the figure suggested as a worst case scenario would be in the region of 95k deaths. That's with less than half of the population infected.

Hurrache · 10-03-2020 08:55PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Well, he didn't say that for starters

And those funeral measures aren't required either.

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2020 08:56PM

otnomart wrote: »

Mental health helplines should ramp up support there.
Or even having a dedicated HSE support line dedicated to this.

That is an excellent idea.
A separate helpline for the worried well.

Widdensushi · 10-03-2020 08:56PM

Drumpot wrote: »

That might be actually where we could ask our retired professional workers to help out. Instead of being on the frontline , be on the end of a line to chat with people?!

This country is so wrapped up in redtape and lawsuits that it would not be possible.

drunkmonkey · 10-03-2020 08:56PM

Some coronavirus patients experience nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea before they get a fever. They could spread the virus through poop.

https://www.businessinsider.com/some-wuhan-coronavirus-patients-have-nausea-vomiting-diarrhea-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

Naggdefy · 10-03-2020 08:56PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Yep and I think that’s why I feel so guilty and am thinking about it since. How something like this has completely altered how I respond to a situation. Unfortunately I have a close family member who would be in the extremely high risk category so I just could not take the chance. I did take a glance over as I was leaving and he seemed to be pottering about so I’m sure he’s okay.

Not to worry retro. Your heart is in the right place.

caveat emptor · 10-03-2020 08:57PM

I think a few positives are in order. Fair play to the people that pushed for this.

Parades are cancelled.
Government ramping up response.
It's clearly not the flu.
Airlines cancelling flights.

What other measures do people feel strongly about on here that could help contain this outbreak?

One big one in mind is community transmission testing. Until someone is in hospital and serious like that person in cork they won't get tested? That seems a bit mad to me. How many hospital staff subsequently contracted the disease or had to self isolate.

Funsterdelux · 10-03-2020 08:57PM

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't understand the obsession with knowing where the cases are.

Surely people should take the exact same precautions no matter where.

It's a rapidly moving contagious disease and we are a small country.

Just assume it's everywhere because if it isn't it soon will be.

Have you got D'Virus?

1huge1 · 10-03-2020 08:57PM

Downlinz wrote: »

5% death rate of 1.9m infected as was the figure suggested as a worst case scenario would be in the region of 95k deaths. That's with less than half of the population infected.

Exactly. and that is to emphasis, WORST case scenario. That is by no means, the base outcome.

Itssoeasy · 10-03-2020 08:57PM

Empty stadium in Valencia for the champions league game and it's looks really weird.

all about the mane · 10-03-2020 08:58PM

Downlinz wrote: »

5% death rate of 1.9m infected as was the figure suggested as a worst case scenario would be in the region of 95k deaths. That's with less than half of the population infected.

Where are you getting the 5% figure? And why do people here always jump to the worst case scenario?

Still waters · 10-03-2020 08:58PM

thebaz wrote: »

so true, I suffer with anxiety/depression and this is not helping , thats why I keep searching for the little positives - keep me going

You could help yourself massively by staying off boards and social media, why do that to yourself if you suffer anxiety, do all you can to help yourself and give social media a break

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP