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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #4082
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,370 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    No it's not. 4 year study period here. Average 17k deaths per annum.
    So it's still 16,852 deaths less worse than the flu.

    So far...
    It's simply not a valid comparison while the cases are still going up.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4083
    Pretzill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    About the seasonal flu - Yes it kills but there's a yearly vaccine based on the most threatening strain. We are almost out of flu season. Having Covid-19 is like having another one, back to back, more deadly, more infectious with no vaccine or anti vitals - someone likened it to the TB outbreak before medical intervention was curing - then all they had was isolation and time.


  • #4084
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    No it's not. 4 year study period here. Average 17k deaths per annum.

    So it's still 16,852 deaths less worse than the flu.
    You can't seriously be comparing an annual number against one from 3 weeks, can you?


  • #4085
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    There has been 148 deaths in Italy in the past few weeks. This is way worse than the flu.

    No point responding to them people imo. They refuse to acknowledge or even look at the data.


  • #4086
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    First of all I reject the premise of your post with the word 'panic'.

    Random thoughts in response to this:
    How many current doctors and health professionals are in the high risk categories? Why would they be concerned?

    Did they panic in China when they sent an army of medical staff and equipment into battle against the virus in Wuhan-Hubei?

    How many current doctors and health professionals are even aware of what happened in Wuhan? Should they be concerned?

    Panic is something they are trained not to do.
    They can be concerned worried or anxious.
    Most doctors and nurses and other medical personnel are aware of what happened in Wuhan and China. Its all over papers, the dog on the street is.

    Did the doctors there panic? Im sure they were worried and concerned no more then the fire fighters going into the towers as they knew most werent coming back. But it is the job and you protect yourself best you can

    I know to family and friends I am playing it down as I am worried which they know but not to the extent. I have very vunerable family members and worry about them catching anything from anywhere.


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  • #4087
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Why only now, when it could well be too late? Surely flights from Northern Italy should have been cancelled as soon as it became clear that region was a major hotspot for the disease, if it was going to be done at all?

    These were Irish people coming home. They went out before Italy became a major hotspot. Are you suggesting we should have prevented these people coming home.


  • #4088
    Ludo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    There were plenty of rumours yesterday of new cases and there turned out to be 7. No rumours today so I guess no new cases? Hopefully anyway.


  • #4089
    gavinoontheweb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭gavinoontheweb


    St.Patrick's Day parade in Stepaside South Co.Dublin has been cancelled joining Youghal Co.Cork, only a matter of time I'd opine before Dublin, Limerick etc will announce scaled back festivities.


  • #4090
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Can we make comparisons with common flu an infraction? Clogging up a thread which now looks like it will be needed for more serious information.

    Also maybe the next thread could be just for Ireland updates V rest of the world?

    There is so much news.

    Irish Times
    Saturday, February 29th
    The first confirmed case of the coronavirus in Ireland was announced by the National Public Health Emergency Team on Saturday night. It followed another case confirmed in Northern Ireland earlier in the week.

    The teenager had become ill after returning from Italy and was placed in isolation in a Dublin hospital.

    Sunday, March 1st
    A north Dublin school with 400 pupils announced on Sunday it would close for two weeks after one of its students was confirmed as having the coronavirus. Public health officials order the closure as a precautionary measure and to minimise the risk of person-to-person transmission of the disease.

    Tuesday, March 3rd
    The second case of the coronavirus in the Republic was confirmed on Tuesday evening after a woman who had recently travelled from Italy tested positive.

    Wednesday, March 4th
    On Wednesday, it was confirmed that a family of four in Co Clare had tested positive for the virus after returning from a skiing holiday in northern Italy.

    One of the family members, a healthcare professional, had worked in University Hospital Limerick’s emergency department before being diagnosed nine days after returning from the holiday. Efforts to trace people who came into contact with the four people are ongoing.

    These include patients who attended the minor injuries zone of the hospital’s emergency department between 10am and 2pm on Wednesday, February 26th.

    The hospital closed for three hours on Wednesday for a deep clean and patients were directed to other hospitals.

    These cases, the first cluster of positive tests in the Republic, forced the closure of three schools in Co Clare as a precautionary measure.

    As the number of global coronavirus cases approaches 100,000, the number of confirmed cases in the Republic had more than doubled by Friday, bringing the total to 13, along with three more in Northern Ireland.

    Here is a timeline of the confirmed cases:

    Saturday, February 29th
    The first confirmed case of the coronavirus in Ireland was announced by the National Public Health Emergency Team on Saturday night. It followed another case confirmed in Northern Ireland earlier in the week.

    The teenager had become ill after returning from Italy and was placed in isolation in a Dublin hospital.

    Sunday, March 1st
    A north Dublin school with 400 pupils announced on Sunday it would close for two weeks after one of its students was confirmed as having the coronavirus. Public health officials order the closure as a precautionary measure and to minimise the risk of person-to-person transmission of the disease.

    Tuesday, March 3rd
    The second case of the coronavirus in the Republic was confirmed on Tuesday evening after a woman who had recently travelled from Italy tested positive.

    Wednesday, March 4th
    On Wednesday, it was confirmed that a family of four in Co Clare had tested positive for the virus after returning from a skiing holiday in northern Italy.

    One of the family members, a healthcare professional, had worked in University Hospital Limerick’s emergency department before being diagnosed nine days after returning from the holiday. Efforts to trace people who came into contact with the four people are ongoing.

    These include patients who attended the minor injuries zone of the hospital’s emergency department between 10am and 2pm on Wednesday, February 26th.

    The hospital closed for three hours on Wednesday for a deep clean and patients were directed to other hospitals.

    These cases, the first cluster of positive tests in the Republic, forced the closure of three schools in Co Clare as a precautionary measure.

    Northern Ireland also reported two new cases on Wednesday, one of them a student from Queen’s University, bringing to three the total number of cases in the North. Neither of the two new cases in the North involved travel through the Republic.

    One of those who tested positive had travelled from northern Italy while the other had recent contact with a person elsewhere in the UK who had subsequently tested positive for Covid-19, said the North’s health minister Robin Swann.

    Thursday, March 5th
    On Thursday evening, the Provost of Trinity College Dublin sent an email to its 17,000 undergraduate and postgraduate students and about 2,600 staff members informing them that a positive case of Covid-19 had been confirmed “within” the university.

    Another three new cases of the virus were confirmed among men from the east of the country who had recently travelled from Italy.

    Two women who were connected to the cases reported in Co Clare earlier in the week also tested positive.

    A man who had been in Cork University Hospital (CUH) for up to a week was also diagnosed. It is understood the man, who received treatment in the hospital last week and was discharged, may have had contact with a large number of staff and sick patients before he was tested. However, it is not clear how he came into contact with the virus.

    CUH has cancelled elective surgeries and imposed visitor restrictions along with the clearance of further space for isolating patients. The patient is receiving intensive care in an isolation unit at the hospital.


  • #4091
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Ludo wrote: »
    There were plenty of rumours yesterday of new cases and there turned out to be 7. No rumours today so I guess no new cases? Hopefully anyway.
    I would not be surprised if 7-10 new cases are announced later this evening.


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  • #4092
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    khalessi wrote: »
    Actually medical personnel are trained to not look like they are worrying when they are. I was trained to walk quickly not run when responding to a cardiac arrest so as not to instill panic. We don't cry telling bad news to patients, we are calm. There are lots of situations where we mask out feelings so not to alarm patient family or friends.

    But looking at some of the health professionals on tv over last few days they look worried to me and I know speaking to others that they are concerned but they arent in roles of power so what can they do?

    I just had a horrible thought. I hate flying but one tip I got when their is turbulence on a plane is to look at the faces of flight attendants and if they are calm you will be grand. It never crossed my mind that this was part of their training!

    My wide is gonna hav to BA Baracus my ass to get me on a plane now by slipping Sleeping tablets into my food :o


  • #4093
    outsourced_ire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭outsourced_ire


    gavinoontheweb wrote: »
    St.Patrick's Day parade in Stepaside South Co.Dublin has been cancelled joining Youghal Co.Cork, only a matter of time I'd opine before Dublin, Limerick etc will announce scaled back festivities.

    Dungarvan, Co. Waterford and Midleton, Co. Cork cancelled (postponed) also.


  • #4094
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Cuckoo7 wrote: »
    That guy with the mask sounds really out of breath, either he’s been fighting people for the nappies or wearing masks is actually pretty hard.


    It's the sound of fear and panic, he sees the grim reaper at every turn.


  • #4095
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Does anyone know if the person working in The Central Bank who was tested is ok?


  • #4096
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    is_that_so wrote: »
    From The Guardian feed @14.06 today
    They thought it was a great idea to hold a big gathering right now?
    In some countries they are banning big meetings of health personnel, but sure, go ahead it’s just political:mad:


  • #4097
    ToddDameron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭ToddDameron


    Nice to see the cringy wannabe comedian mods have started using useful thread titles.


  • #4098
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    gavinoontheweb wrote: »
    St.Patrick's Day parade in Stepaside South Co.Dublin has been cancelled....

    That'll be a big blow for the DLRCC gritter truck/snow plough driver! :)


  • #4099
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Ludo wrote: »
    There were plenty of rumours yesterday of new cases and there turned out to be 7. No rumours today so I guess no new cases? Hopefully anyway.

    Not a chance of no new cases. And I'm not trying to be a doomsdayer. If there aren't any new cases then the info we are being told about the virus is incorrect. Or the testing procedure is incorrect.

    Improved hygiene and reduced social interaction over a few months will delay the spread. Time is what we need.


  • #4100
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I just had a horrible thought. I hate flying but one tip I got when their is turbulence on a plane is to look at the faces of flight attendants and if they are calm you will be grand. It never crossed my mind that this was part of their training!

    My wide is gonna hav to BA Baracus my ass to get on a plane now by slipping tablets into my food :o
    I do that too:D, I’ve always thought that real panic is pretty hard to hide, training or no training.


  • #4101
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    If this was a banking crisis the EU top heads would be all over us trying to stop contagiosity but a health crisis and it's like they will let this run rampant with no slowing it down and it's like saying - go fcuk yourselves and die.


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  • #4102
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    That'll be a big blow for the DLRCC gritter truck/snow plough driver! :)

    Yeah, he was having a quiet year anyways what with the weather.


  • #4103
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Cuckoo7 wrote: »
    They thought it was a great idea to hold a big gathering right now?
    In some countries they are banning big meetings of health personnel, but sure, go ahead it’s just political:mad:
    That's your take? Is it any wonder we get limited daily briefings!


  • #4104
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    ToddDameron wrote: »
    Nice to see the cringy wannabe comedian mods have started using useful thread titles.

    Which ones?


  • #4105
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    moonlighting_1 wrote: »
    Americans starting to panic


    Ah for jaysus sake...

    People are watching too much Walking Dead. They'll be building backyard coronavirus bunkers next - I'm sure some have already started.


  • #4106
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    owlbethere wrote: »
    If this was a banking crisis the EU top heads would be all over us trying to stop contagiosity but a health crisis and it's like they will let this run rampant with no slowing it down and it's like saying - go fcuk yourselves and die.

    Oh this is absolutely gonna be a banking crisis too.


  • #4107
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Random thought. Should I stick up cos everyone else is? I mean I don't see the point of getting a year's worth of loo paper but if everyone else does then there won't be any in the shop and regular use suggests I will need it at. Some point!


  • #4108
    mortimer33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭mortimer33


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    No it's not. 4 year study period here. Average 17k deaths per annum.

    So it's still 16,852 deaths less worse than the flu.

    That would represent about 3% of the total population of Italy.. The CFR must be astronomical and not in sync with wordwide figures. Worldwide flu CFR is only about 0.2%


  • #4109
    str8talkingguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭str8talkingguy


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Expand on this please.

    From where im sitting, Tech companies Share Prices are dropping through the floor.

    Don't follow shares myself,but look at this thread for example is it not a boon for boards.ie.


  • #4110
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    We seem to be on par with the UK in terms of proportion on the population. 163 based on their population is about 13.5 patients here.


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  • #4111
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That's your take? Is it any wonder we get limited daily briefings!
    Of course that’s my take, they’ve been advised (at least in Spain they have) to avoid going to medical congress or gatherings, but of course if the spokeman of such a meeting is of the opinion that all this is just political bull**** I guess were all safe.


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