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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Paulie Doyle
    @BigPaulieDoyle
    ·
    1 Mar
    Ireland's response to the coronavirus isn't surprising. A few weeks ago I was at the cinema and the fire alarm went off. People sat there for like ten minutes, then when the noise eventually stopped they were like 'must be no fire so' and just waited for the movie to come back on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    South Korea is fooked (600 new cases today) - CFR is at 0.7% but almost all these cases are only in the past 2 weeks max

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234648694072496128


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,151 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    fr336 wrote: »
    Paulie Doyle
    @BigPaulieDoyle
    ·
    1 Mar
    Ireland's response to the coronavirus isn't surprising. A few weeks ago I was at the cinema and the fire alarm went off. People sat there for like ten minutes, then when the noise eventually stopped they were like 'must be no fire so' and just waited for the movie to come back on

    There was no fire though, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭adrian92


    Just to say am am at a loss regarding this matter - not one person, fortunately, has died in our country with this virus.

    I am not sure how many hundreds of us die , every year, via cars and suicides.

    300 or 400 or 500?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Just to say am am at a loss regarding this matter - not one person, fortunately, has died in our country with this virus.

    I am not sure how many hundreds of us die , every year, via cars and suicides.

    300 or 400 or 500?

    We're only a month into this in Europe and the rest of the world


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Hmmm, I wonder is the higher death rate in American due to a higher immune system through standard of living? God, that is so racist and western centric, but you do wonder. As in, more people are fighting it, but it is hitting more vulnerable people in general if that makes any sense.

    Was figuring it was maybe a while it was around there and these unfortunate deaths were caught at later stages of the illness.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Bozo Skeleton


    fritzelly wrote: »
    We're only a month into this in Europe and the rest of the world

    We're only a couple of days into it in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Just to say am am at a loss regarding this matter - not one person, fortunately, has died in our country with this virus.

    I am not sure how many hundreds of us die , every year, via cars and suicides.

    300 or 400 or 500?

    What do you mean like? It's a developing situation , It is trying to stop it that is the goal, nobody is claiming loads of people are dying in Ireland it's the amount of people who would if this was allowed to spread as commonly as flu does which is of concern


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Was figuring it was maybe a while it was around there and these unfortunate deaths were caught at later stages of the illness.

    All the deaths are from the care home arent they? These are the highest risk group, elderly and with underlying conditions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    digitaldr wrote: »
    Funny you should say that - the WHO guy in the video I linked to above said that if he was critically ill with COVID-19 that's where he would want to be as they're are now very good at keeping the sickest people alive. For this reason mortality rates inside China may not be comparable to those outside.

    I'd still pick Singapore, thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭adrian92


    We find it acceptable that thousands of people in Europe will die every year using a motor car

    For example.

    Somehow a virus cause problems

    The virus is a problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    adrian92 wrote: »
    We find it acceptable that thousands of people in Europe will die every year using a motor car

    For example.

    Somehow a virus cause problems

    The virus is a problem

    People driving take their own risk , nobody is forcing you to. It's not comparable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭adrian92


    wakka12 wrote: »
    What do you mean like? It's a developing situation , It is trying to stop it that is the goal, nobody is claiming loads of people are dying in Ireland it's the amount of people who would if this was allowed to spread as commonly as flu does which is of concern

    I understand your point.

    My point is that there seems to be an acceptable level of death, with no debate.

    As a country we should debate the level of death by suicide

    Not a virus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    So many of these positives tests world wide are just detecting that those people have some sort of respiratory infection. They can't differentiate yet from other viruses it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    So many of these positives tests world wide are just detecting that those people have some sort of respiratory infection. They can't differentiate yet from other viruses it seems.

    Wrong - the test for the virus is for this virus, not for flu or anything else

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/polymerase-chain-reaction-pcr-3132814
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    adrian92 wrote: »
    We find it acceptable that thousands of people in Europe will die every year using a motor car

    For example.

    Somehow a virus cause problems

    The virus is a problem

    Cars are useful, viruses, not so much. These sorts of comparisons always leave out the point that the deaths will be in addition to deaths we already aren't too happy about. At full blown pandemic levels, the death toll could be in the millions. And lets not leave out that viruses can mutate rapidly. Usually they get weaker but they can get worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Just to say am am at a loss regarding this matter - not one person, fortunately, has died in our country with this virus.

    I am not sure how many hundreds of us die , every year, via cars and suicides.

    300 or 400 or 500?

    Have you just found out about this virus right now or what? Get reading I suggest.

    The wider effects of this virus are very different to car accidents and suicides.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭derossi


    So many of these positives tests world wide are just detecting that those people have some sort of respiratory infection. They can't differentiate yet from other viruses it seems.




    https://www.donegaldaily.com/2020/03/02/coronavirus-test-developed-in-donegal-to-be-rolled-out-in-chinese-hospitals/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Wrong - the test for the virus is for this virus, not for flu or anything else
    .


    It's not , it's why they are having to test same person over and over to find the cause of their symptoms .



    New tests kits are better, and Irish made.


    https://www.donegaldaily.com/2020/03/02/coronavirus-test-developed-in-donegal-to-be-rolled-out-in-chinese-hospitals/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    adrian92 wrote: »
    I understand your point.

    My point is that there seems to be an acceptable level of death, with no debate.

    As a country we should debate the level of death by suicide

    Not a virus

    Something that could potentially kill 30,000 people in Ireland is worth paying some interest in. Start a different thread on suicide if you think it is deserving of more attention.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    It's not , it's why they are having to test same person over and over to find the cause of their symptoms .

    New tests kits are better, and Irish made.

    https://www.donegaldaily.com/2020/03/02/coronavirus-test-developed-in-donegal-to-be-rolled-out-in-chinese-hospitals/

    The tests are not 100% accurate because it relies on enough of a viral load to detect it - the link is something completely different

    Do you really think all round the world they have been using a test and that the analysis cannot differentiate between different viruses?

    What the Donegal test kit does is tell you if the patient has another type of virus - in itself revolutionary - so if it is just flu then you know no point testing again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Just to say am am at a loss regarding this matter - not one person, fortunately, has died in our country with this virus.

    I'm reminded of a post early in the first thread
    Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally. It's important that the epidemiologists watch it carefully and take their preventative measures, but the sky isn't falling just yet.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can we rename the coronavirus to foot and mouth to get a better response from government and the HSE?

    Feckin hell you don't want to cause a panic!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Watched the BBC special - expert guy starts off with flu killed more people so far (suppose technically true but...)
    But apart from that 100 times better than the Claire Byrne special saying nothing to worry about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Lee Man-hee, the 88-year-old founder and leader of the church Shincheonji should be tried for genocide

    Him and fourteen others are getting done for homicide though.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    So let’s get this straight:

    School has a confirmed case. He was in class all week.

    HSE sends everyone home and recommends isolation.

    HSE then brings all the parents together in one room for a big meeting.

    ???

    https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-glasnevin-school-5029709-Mar2020/

    Fcuk me that sounds pretty dumb, its like a first year student party for Coronavirus bugs. :confused::eek::(

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,718 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    So let’s get this straight:

    School has a confirmed case. He was in class all week.

    HSE sends everyone home and recommends isolation.

    HSE then brings all the parents together in one room for a big meeting.

    ???

    https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-glasnevin-school-5029709-Mar2020/

    How 1950's.

    Sounds like HSE is having a measles party, popular in Australia the 1950's, 1960's

    Went to one when I was about 7, yummy cake.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/stay-measles-parties-docs-warn-parents/story?id=28842782


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    freshpopcorn, that's a classic.


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