Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Call Me Jimmy · 01-03-2020 05:49PM

scamalert wrote: »

people refer to cases as if it matters, do most folk apply same when flu season kicks off ? its only extreme and deaths that count, and to which theres little detail given out were the people immuno compromised suffering with other health issues is main factor. as if most recover then this would be ignored quite fast, putting only those that are most at risk to monitor.

if cases don't matter can you explain why the South Korean government - who have said they aren't expecting to do mass containment - politely asked the whole country to stay in this weekend?

tillyfilly · 01-03-2020 05:49PM

The case fatality rate – the proportion of cases that are fatal – has been just over 2%, much less than it was for Sars, but 20 times that of seasonal flu.

Rob A. Bank · 01-03-2020 05:50PM

cnocbui wrote: »

One infected person on the Diamond Princess lead to 705 infections and 6 deaths.

This disease is highly contagious and the rate of infection is very high.

One infected person in China approx 3 months ago has now infected more than 87,000 people in 50 countries and killed 2,979 people and will unfortunately kill many more.

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 05:50PM

gabeeg wrote: »

You are in for a massive shock.

Paddy's day is the least of our worries.

I want those beaches open on the fourth of July.

ChikiChiki · 01-03-2020 05:51PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Then they should word there press releases better.

Agreed. Think it's a very concerning lack of attention to detail on their part and purely soundbites.

Optics around that press release not good.

Abba987 · 01-03-2020 05:51PM

gabeeg wrote: »

You are in for a massive shock.

Paddy's day is the least of our worries.

I wouldnt be attending a large gathering such as this. Its just sensible not to stuck in the middle of a large crowd who may or may not have travelled from affected areas.

Wish it was that easy a decision when it comes to school / work. I dont want to be the alarmist who takes the kids out of school. Whats others thoughts on this? Obviously if we have more cases not just one in isolation

Sierra Oscar · 01-03-2020 05:52PM

tillyfilly wrote: »

The case fatality rate – the proportion of cases that are fatal – has been just over 2%, much less than it was for Sars, but 20 times that of seasonal flu.

Indeed and there were just over 8,000 cases of SARS during the outbreak in 2004. We're heading for 90,000 COVID-19 cases so far. That gives an indication as to why China and other countries have been imposing stringent measures to tackle the outbreak.

BanditLuke · 01-03-2020 05:53PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I want those beaches open on the fourth of July.

Simon Harris as the town mayor and Banditluke as chief Brody.

Akrasia · 01-03-2020 05:53PM

babybuilder wrote: »

Alcohol proof is not the same as %. E.g. 70 proof ≈ 40%

Most alcohol labeling in Ireland is ABV than proof, but most people call ABV proof cause they just assume they’re the same

branie2 · 01-03-2020 05:54PM

Because of the virus, this year's HCPT Easter pilgrimage to Lourdes has been cancelled

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 05:55PM

branie2 wrote: »

Because of the virus, this year's HCPT Easter pilgrimage to Lourdes has been cancelled

Ahhhh no.:(

Did you go last year or any year?

gabeeg · 01-03-2020 05:56PM

branie2 wrote: »

Because of the virus, this year's HCPT Easter pilgrimage to Lourdes has been cancelled

The maniacs. That might be where we find the cure

Doctors room ghost · 01-03-2020 05:56PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Simon Harris as the town mayor and Banditluke as chief Brody.

Lieo varadkar as the shark

Sierra Oscar · 01-03-2020 05:57PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

Don't be hugely surprised if the St Patrick's Day parade in Dublin is cancelled. HSE official stated on Radio 1 this morning that the matter is under active consideration and a decision will be made by the end of this week.

fly_agaric · 01-03-2020 05:58PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

Think I might have heard same interview (I think) you mentioned earlier on RTE Radio 1 today (Deputy Chief Medical Officer of Dept. of Health) [edit: or maybe it was a different one??].

He was posed that question (about St. Patricks Day) and said that they are looking at risk assessment for such large public events and will give guidance on it in coming days.
It's a very fluid and unpredictable situation + you would not be certain from that what will happen (certainly not "OTT"/scaremongering to think parade(s) might not go ahead).

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0301/1119467-coronavirus-ireland/
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/21722774

Nonoperational · 01-03-2020 05:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Legally, certain Nurse Consultants, at least in UK, do diagnose and prescribe. You see it on the Channel 4 Series 24 Hours in A&E, as well as others. I saw a documentary series featuring a Cardiac Nurse Consultant who managed a patient entirely himself, along with his team. The patient entered with a very serious cardiac arrhythmia and he administered drugs he himself had prescribed, then when they didn’t work as desired he administered a sedative and shocked the heart into correct rhythm. As a nurse he was a specialist in his area, but far knowledgeable In his area than most general doctors.

There are cardiology advance nurse practitioners that would do this in all the big Dublin cardiology centres.

I've seen that episode. In that case the rhythm was atrial fibrillation, which is very common. Interestingly electrical cardioversion is extremely safe and effective, safer than many medications. It just appears a bit "shocking" to those that aren't familiar with it. :pac:

Strazdas · 01-03-2020 05:59PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

There you go again. I can respect posts that disagree with my opinion when they challenge it.
This sort of scattergun nonsense you repeatedly use as your posting tactic e.g. use lame weasel words like "most of the commentary" yada yada yada... that's not worthy of respect. Lame weasel words will be treated with the disrespect they deserve.

So no, that's not what these threads are about. You don't seem to understand the basic concept of social media. The same medical experts shut down the Aviva for a rugby game, it's entirely reasonable on social media to query a similar large scale event which is likely to attract visitors from areas more impacted by the virus e.g. the St Patricks Day Parade.

If the St.Patrick's Day parade was halted, the 100,000 visitors will come to Dublin anyway.....why would they cancel and lose all their money?

I predict the festival will go ahead. There are nowhere enough medical grounds on which to cancel at the moment. Flights in and out of the country are continuing as normal without any restrictions and tourists are arriving in their usual numbers.

Graces7 · 01-03-2020 05:59PM

A photo I saw brought this home.
Three young women in blue scrubs, masks etc, caught in an embrace that spoke of utter pain and grief

Let us not in all of our ponderings and provisions and ideas forget the suffering and grief this illness is bringing to families around the world and work to prevent spread. For every death a family in utter loss.

branie2 · 01-03-2020 05:59PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Ahhhh no.:(

Did you go last year or any year?

I went with them twice; in 1993 and 2007.

wakka12 · 01-03-2020 06:00PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

Do you not understand, it is being done in order to help prevent large numbers of infections occurring, its not being cancelled because there is a high rate of infection.

BanditLuke · 01-03-2020 06:00PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Lieo varadkar as the shark

Speaking of Leo where is he, hiding in his bunker?

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 06:01PM

branie2 wrote: »

I went with them twice; in 1993 and 2007.

Sorry well done.:)

Sierra Oscar · 01-03-2020 06:02PM

Strazdas wrote: »

If the St.Patrick's Day parade was halted, the 100,000 visitors will come to Dublin anyway.....why would they cancel and lose all their money?

I predict the festival will go ahead. There are nowhere enough medical grounds on which to cancel at the moment. Flights in and out of the country are continuing as normal without any restrictions and tourists are arriving in their usual numbers.

The issue is mass congregation of close to half a million people in a small area of the city center, all in shoulder to shoulder proximity, over the course of a couple of hours.

Tourists can still come but without the parade it does remove large congregation / proximity issue.

IndigoStar · 01-03-2020 06:02PM

Abba987 wrote: »

I wouldnt be attending a large gathering such as this. Its just sensible not to stuck in the middle of a large crowd who may or may not have travelled from affected areas.

Wish it was that easy a decision when it comes to school / work. I dont want to be the alarmist who takes the kids out of school. Whats others thoughts on this? Obviously if we have more cases not just one in isolation

There's kids in our school due back this week from one of the affected countries. I'm immunosuppressed, pick up infections constantly and take months to get over them fully. I'm considering keeping my kids home to try minimise the risk of it coming home to me. That might sound alarmist to others but my life would be at risk if I contracted this.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 01-03-2020 06:02PM

3 Juventus players contracted it

Strazdas · 01-03-2020 06:02PM

fly_agaric wrote: »

Think I might have heard same interview you mentioned earlier on RTE Radio 1 today (Deputy Chief Medical Officer of Dept. of Health).
He was posed that question (about St. Patricks Day) and said that they are looking at risk assessment for such large public events and will give guidance on it in coming days.
It's a very fluid and unpredictable situation + you would not be certain from that what will happen (certainly not "OTT"/scaremongering to think parade(s) might not go ahead).

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0301/1119467-coronavirus-ireland/
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/21722774

He did indeed but he was talking more about issuing recommendations to festival organisers. Cancelling the four day festival at such short notice would be a drastic measure (and would surely have to be accompanied by the halting of football, GAA and rugby matches, pop concerts etc.....else why single out the parade only?)

odyssey06 · 01-03-2020 06:03PM

Strazdas wrote: »

If the St.Patrick's Day parade was halted, the 100,000 visitors will come to Dublin anyway.....why would they cancel and lose all their money?
I predict the festival will go ahead. There are nowhere enough medical grounds on which to cancel at the moment. Flights in and out of the country are continuing as normal without any restrictions and tourists are arriving in their usual numbers.

Yes but they won't be massed in serried ranks standing room only alongside the parade routes, coming into close contact with hundreds of strangers. It'll make contact tracing impossible if a case is detected who attended the parade and will turn into a mass spreading event.
If the event is cancelled, that will be why. It's the same reason the French have banned enclosed gatherings of 5000 or more people.

Doctors room ghost · 01-03-2020 06:03PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Speaking of Leo where is he, hiding in his bunker?

Gone to ground like the fox,for fear he would have to answer any medical related questions him being a “doctor” and all.
The shinners are looking for a good terrier man to root him out as we speak

wakka12 · 01-03-2020 06:04PM

An ongoing outbreak of widespread community transmission in the US state of Washington appears to only now be coming to light
https://twitter.com/cmyeaton/status/1234123049022164995?s=21

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 06:04PM

IndigoStar wrote: »

There's kids in our school due back this week from one of the affected countries. I'm immunosuppressed, pick up infections constantly and take months to get over them fully. I'm considering keeping my kids home to try minimise the risk of it coming home to me. That might sound alarmist to others but my life would be at risk if I contracted this.

Yes you are in the at risk group.

Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP