Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

dodzy

Strazdas wrote: »

The reason they are not looking to cancel the St Patrick's Festival is because the risk of infection is absolutely miniscule at the moment. One guy in Ireland has the virus : the other five million haven't got it.

I think it’s fair to assume there’s more than one at this point in time.

DrumSteve

Im presuming the low rate of recoveries in Italy is due to the need to test people to confirm its gone.

Also, Iran flying by the seat of its pants there, no serious patients... You either get well on your own steam or your dead. Heard some jnteresting theories as to why the CFR is much higher there (outside of the obvious), in that they are treating them with powerful steroids (which is causing an overreaction once they come off them)

cnocbui

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Do you even read a post before reacting?;)

I just got back from trying to boost my immune system so I was speeding in order to try and catch up and missed that subtlety in my peripheral vision. Fair play!

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

I just got back from trying to boost my immune system so I was speeding in order to try and catch up and missed that subtlety in my peripheral vision. Fair play!

Speed kills.

harr

wakka12 wrote: »

Coronavirus popping up in ever more peculiar places
3 cases on the tiny French Caribbean island of St Martin
http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/coronavirus-l-epidemie-a-fait-86000-contaminations-et-3000-morts-dans-le-monde-de-nombreux-rassemblements-interdits-en-france-01-03-2020-8270001.php

Would St Martin be a stop off for a lot of cruise ships ?

CinemaGuy45

cnocbui wrote: »

I just got back from trying to boost my immune system so I was speeding in order to try and catch up and missed that subtlety in my peripheral vision. Fair play!

The Flat Earth Society really used this wording in one of their meetings people from all around the globe in attendance.:D

Strazdas

Ninthlife wrote: »

You really believe only 1 person out of 5 million is carrying the virus right now

In Ireland? The numbers must be incredibly low (and in no way justify the hysterical commentary we are seeing). You are far more at risk of dying of any number of different things in Ireland than of the corona virus.

CinemaGuy45

dodzy wrote: »

[/B]I think it’s fair to assume there’s more than one at this point in time.

Be careful now or the mods will be telling you to post in the conspiracy theory section of boards.:p

jam_mac_jam

Strazdas wrote: »

In Ireland? The numbers must be incredibly low (and in no way justify the hysterical commentary we are seeing). You are far more at risk of dying of any number of different things in Ireland than of the corona virus.

Yes you're right lets take no precautions or plans at all as there is obviously no chance of that changing.

Strazdas

dodzy wrote: »

[/B]I think it’s fair to assume there’s more than one at this point in time.

But still extremely low numbers. Talk of shutting down the country and cancelling everything is totally premature and OTT. We're nowhere remotely near that stage.

Loafing Oaf

Strazdas wrote: »

In Ireland? The numbers must be incredibly low (and in no way justify the hysterical commentary we are seeing). You are far more at risk of dying of any number of different things in Ireland than of the corona virus.

And you would see no justification for preventive measures to prevent the situation getting worse?

odyssey06

Strazdas wrote: »

In Ireland? The numbers must be incredibly low (and in no way justify the hysterical commentary we are seeing). You are far more at risk of dying of any number of different things in Ireland than of the corona virus.

You assume it's a static risk. It's not. It's an infectious disease.
If we want to keep the risk low, we need to take action.

The time to take action is BEFORE, not AFTER we have community spread.

Also, cut out the hysterical commentary nonsense or directly challenge it.
It's a particularly tiresome debating trick, making indirect references.

CinemaGuy45

odyssey06 wrote: »

You assume it's a static risk. It's not. It's an infectious disease.
If we want to keep the risk low, we need to take action.

The time to take action is BEFORE, not AFTER we have community spread.

Ah don't be silly now no point in calling the fire brigade until the fire spreads a bit.;)

Strazdas

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Yes you're right lets take no precautions or plans at all as there is obviously no chance of that changing.

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

BanditLuke

12 new cases in the UK I see. They are at a tipping point now imo

ArchXStanton

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

This is Tesco clarehall 2 days ago,


The HSE need to inform people exactly what is happening and where the infections are going to be popping up, panic is not a bad thing if it saves lives.

I said this earlier, it would be helpful to get a precise location in case someone has symptoms but chose to ignore it

BanditLuke

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

No its not, unless you want a Wuhan type scenerio.

steve-o

Duke of Url wrote: »

It’s weird that they have the contact details of people on buses and trains.

There are sources like Leap card which would provide some information. But the likes of Google have the data to identify who was near someone else for any given length of time. But GDPR and all that.

CinemaGuy45

BanditLuke wrote: »

12 new cases in the UK I see. They are at a tipping point now imo

Nah thats canceled too.

Strazdas

odyssey06 wrote: »

You assume it's a static risk. It's not. It's an infectious disease.
If we want to keep the risk low, we need to take action.

The time to take action is BEFORE, not AFTER we have community spread.

Also, cut out the hysterical commentary nonsense or directly challenge it.
It's a particularly tiresome debating trick, making indirect references.

Thank goodness the decisions are in the hands of actual medical experts. Most of the commentary is crazy conspiracy theory stuff, misinformation, half truths and untruths, exaggerations, wild speculation etc (which is why this thread keeps getting shut down).

The media are partly responsible btw. Much of their own coverage and speculation has been sensationalist.

BanditLuke

odyssey06 wrote: »

You assume it's a static risk. It's not. It's an infectious disease.
If we want to keep the risk low, we need to take action.

The time to take action is BEFORE, not AFTER we have community spread.

Also, cut out the hysterical commentary nonsense or directly challenge it.
It's a particularly tiresome debating trick, making indirect references.

It's really bizarre that people aren't realising this yet.

Ninthlife

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

Sacrifice the few to save the many

cnocbui

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

One infected person on the Diamond Princess lead to 705 infections and 6 deaths.
This disease is highly contagious and the rate of infection is very high.

cnocbui

Strazdas wrote: »

But still extremely low numbers. Talk of shutting down the country and cancelling everything is totally premature and OTT. We're nowhere remotely near that stage.

What you call 'that stage' is too late.

Rob A. Bank

Strazdas wrote: »

But still extremely low numbers. Talk of shutting down the country and cancelling everything is totally premature and OTT. We're nowhere remotely near that stage.

The St Patrick's Day festival was postponed in 2001 over a month BEFORE the first F&M case was identified here, in order to protect cattle health.

https://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0517/788978-celebrating-st-patrick-in-may/

scamalert

people refer to cases as if it matters, do most folk apply same when flu season kicks off ? its only extreme and deaths that count, and to which theres little detail given out were the people immuno compromised suffering with other health issues is main factor. as if most recover then this would be ignored quite fast, putting only those that are most at risk to monitor.

as second option would stuff everyone with running nose running to GP to get a week or two off, and this would create havoc on entire health system, when in fact seems only vulnerable should be looked after.

as count keeeps going up but number of deaths isnt on par for months flu deaths ww, should tell a lot.

Call Me Jimmy

Strazdas wrote: »

But still extremely low numbers. Talk of shutting down the country and cancelling everything is totally premature and OTT. We're nowhere remotely near that stage.

But you know how many cases it took for the german health minister to announce it to be an epidemic and say it was basically impossible to contain?

20. 20 confirmed cases. The uk has had that in day, a couple of days ago people said 'the UK has so few aren't they doing well'.

gabeeg

Strazdas wrote: »

Preparing for a mass outbreak is fine and absolute sensible. But talk of cancelling St Patrick's Day, Cheltenham and numerous other events seems way too OTT given the low rate of infection.

You are in for a massive shock.

Paddy's day is the least of our worries.

cnocbui

Deleted User wrote: »

Speed kills.

I must be gong to fast, death hasn't managed to catch up yet.

odyssey06

Strazdas wrote: »

Thank goodness the decisions are in the hands of actual medical experts. Most of the commentary is crazy conspiracy theory stuff, misinformation, half truths and untruths, exaggerations, wild speculation etc (which is why this thread keeps getting shut down).

There you go again. I can respect posts that disagree with my opinion when they challenge it.
This sort of scattergun nonsense you repeatedly use as your posting tactic e.g. use lame weasel words like "most of the commentary" yada yada yada... that's not worthy of respect. Lame weasel words will be treated with the disrespect they deserve.

So no, that's not what these threads are about. You don't seem to understand the basic concept of social media. The same medical experts shut down the Aviva for a rugby game, it's entirely reasonable on social media to query a similar large scale event which is likely to attract visitors from areas more impacted by the virus e.g. the St Patricks Day Parade.