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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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    #9332
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    a) I know b) flu is a serious illness and anyone who doesn't treat it as such is an idiot. When most people say they had the flu, they had a cold c) based on what? d) you're comparing serious cases of a newly developing virus to something we've been handling for years. The vast majority of cases are most likely only producing mild symptoms.

    I'm not saying this isnt something worth worrying about, it's clearly a serious illness. But to read some of the posts on here youd swear we were dealing with something closer to Ebola than the flu.

    WHO chief said it was worse than Ebola in almost every aspect though. And how deadly it is not the only problem, if it transmits sufficiently more but has a lower death rate then overall more people die for example. Rightly or wrongly every government that gets a dose starts shutting things down, and very few lockdowns have been lifted, usually being continuously extended.

    95% Fortune 1000 companies are reporting supply chain disruption as well. No big deal for now, but not forever.


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    #9333
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Depends on the figures used...did a rough calculation using CDC figures for the states. Got this from a Google, but I am agree that it 0.1% would be high for influenza.

    In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China. That's much higher than the death rate linked to flu, which is typically around 0.1% in the U.S., according to The New York Times.

    Chances are the death rate from c19 is way lower than what people think.
    Many cases are going undetected or people are lying about it. The opposite happens with flu. Every second person who has a cold, claims to have the flu. Very few voluntarily stepping up with this new virus.


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    #9334
    Drumpot
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    Charli Substantial Racketeering wrote: »
    New figures available here.

    In their non peer reviewed report

    The study also suggested that human-to-human transmission might have already started in November.

    Not. Sure if they are intentionally trying to confuse things or if that’s a serious suggestion that this virus has been around longer then we thought


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    #9335
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    WHO chief said it was worse than Ebola in almost every aspect though. And how deadly it is not the only problem, if it transmits sufficiently more but has a lower death rate then overall more people die for example. Rightly or wrongly every government that gets a dose starts shutting things down, and very few lockdowns have been lifted, usually being continuously extended.

    95% Fortune 1000 companies are reporting supply chain disruption as well. No big deal for now, but not forever.

    Worse than Ebola...Jesus wept...


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    #9336
    Martina1991
    Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote:
    Where’s the poster called Martina? She seems to have the inside scoop and her silence is worrying me.
    Holla! I've no scoop but I'll see if there's any update or see what people are saying tomorrow. None of my colleagues at work or in other hospitals were too worried yet.
    Opinions may change after the outbreak in Italy.
    I'd imagine we will close borders or take precautions like that when the UK do.
    Spanish Eyes wrote:
    Wonder who the 65 were and why they were chosen for testing.
    I would guess those 65 had flu like symptoms but more importantly i would say they also had recently been travelling internationally.


    If cases do appear here, our ability to test suspected cases will be severely lacking. There is only one lab that facilitates testing in Ireland. They will likely not have the staff or resources to keep up. Testing may be limited to those displaying symptoms and not the asymptomatic population.


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    #9337
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Worse than Ebola...Jesus wept...
    I said in most aspects



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    #9338
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Actually. Worry level is back down to 2/10 now that it was fake news that the 38 year old died. There are particular people posting on this thread who seem to be more interested in spreading fake information/panic than actually dealing in facts. Be very wary of everything in this thread unless it's peer reviewed.


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    #9339
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    A lot of 'not in my backyard' in the US in relation to housing evacuees and infected. Trump has cancelled another site in Alabama.

    Viruses are people too.

    Make America Virus Free Again.


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    #9340
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    I said in most aspects, talk to this lad:


    Worse than Ebola ;)


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    #9341
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Actually. Worry level is back down to 2/10 now that it was fake news that the 38 year old died. There are particular people posting on this thread who seem to be more interested in spreading fake information/panic than actually dealing in facts. Be very wary of everything in this thread unless it's peer reviewed.

    It’s all about the drama.


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    #9342
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Worse than Ebola ;)

    That's not what I said. There's multiple dimensions to an outbreak. He says they have to take this more serious than Ebola. I didn't say it's more deadly.


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    #9343
    [Deleted User]
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Actually. Worry level is back down to 2/10 now that it was fake news that the 38 year old died. There are particular people posting on this thread who seem to be more interested in spreading fake information/panic than actually dealing in facts. Be very wary of everything in this thread unless it's peer reviewed.

    That's what happens when boards.ie policy is that people should just know better in this particular forum and there are no repercussions for spreading fake news, but there are infractions if you call one of them a clown for doing it.


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    #9344
    [Deleted User]
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    Unconfirmed reports of a case in Belfast. 65-year-old had travelled through Korea in recent weeks.


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    #9345
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Ebola has a fatality rate of up to 90% by the way, for anyone who thinks comparing the two in terms of impact to human life is remotely comparable.


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    #9346
    [Deleted User]
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    givyjoe wrote: »
    Because a) this isn't flu b) if People associate this as just being a flu, they wont take it seriously c) it's not comparable in terms of mortality rates, not even close.

    D) flu does not even come remotely close to putting that many/% people into a serious condition.

    Where's your peer reviewed evidence of this? If there was no influenza vaccine. The numbers may be very similar. The flu vaccines reduces the prevalence by 40-60%.


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    #9347
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Unconfirmed reports of a case in Belfast. 65-year-old had travelled through Korea in recent weeks.

    I'm hearing its spread to at least quarter of a million people as of a minute ago


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    #9348
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I'm hearing its spread to at least quarter of a million people as of a minute ago

    The voices in your head are not a reliable source!


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    #9349
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I'm hearing its spread to at least quarter of a million people as of a minute ago

    Thank god for that hard border. #blessed


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    #9350
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Ebola has a fatality rate of up to 90% by the way, for anyone who thinks comparing the two in terms of impact to human life is remotely comparable.

    Can you interpret why the WHO Chief said this is more serious (which I have stated is not in terms of death rate)?

    What's your take on how he compared them?


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    #9351
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    tuxy wrote: »
    The voices in your head are not a reliable source!

    Who needs a reliable source on this thread?


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    #9352
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Can you interpret why the WHO Chief said this is more serious (which I have stated is not in terms of death rate)?

    What's your take on how he compared them?

    He never said that, he said it is more contagious.


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    #9353
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Can you interpret why the WHO Chief said this is more serious (which I have stated is not in terms of death rate)?

    What's your take on how he compared them?

    I assume he was referring to the fact ebola is generally confined geographically while this isnt.

    I suspect he would have said similar about any virus with the potential to spread globally.

    It's interesting you only mentioned the fact you obviously weren't talking about death rate after being called out on the comparison.


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    #9354
    [Deleted User]
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    Ebola would a bigger problem if it didn't kill people so quickly. It's too lethal for its own good.


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    #9355
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Can you interpret why the WHO Chief said this is more serious (which I have stated is not in terms of death rate)?

    What's your take on how he compared them?

    If you don’t stop moving those goalposts you’ll put your back out. Worse than Ebola ;)


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    #9356
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I assume he was referring to the fact ebola is generally confined geographically while this isnt.

    I suspect he would have said similar about any virus with the potential to spread globally.

    It's interesting you only mentioned the fact you obviously weren't talking about death rate after being called out on the comparison.

    I have never hyped the death rate of this so I don't understand why you would think I was saying the death rate was comparable.

    If Ebola is much easier contained than this, and this goes on to cause the problems it has worldwide compared to Ebola, more deaths, disruptions etc. overall it's worse.

    If you limit it to just the health outlook for an individual of course they're obviously not comparable.


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    #9357
    H.20v3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Think I seen someone with the virus today

    Couldn't be 100% it was a corona


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    #9358
    all about the mane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    H.20v3 wrote: »
    Think I seen someone with the virus today

    Couldn't be 100% it was a corona

    Was there a slice of lime in the top?


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    #9359
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Unconfirmed reports now coming in that coronavirus has been spotted in Ireland.


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    #9360
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    South Korea's second largest city , Busan, reports 22 new cases
    Additionally 140 other new cases countrywide and one more death
    https://m.yna.co.kr/kr/contents/?cid=AKR20200224051500017

    Now over 760 cases in South Korea


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    #9361
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Unconfirmed reports now coming in that coronavirus has been spotted in Ireland.

    Where did you hear that?


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