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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I guess it's a good thing they let that IE flight out first. They'd be stuck otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    AF will have to accept slightly less for it now. The scrap man can't sell the steering unit! ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Waste of great engineering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    Waste of great engineering


    I can see your point and I'm an engineer myself.


    You could also argue though that if the engineering was better it would still be a going concern.


    What one of my lecturers used to call the "art" of engineering!


    A testament to what's possible to engineer all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Osborne wrote: »
    I'll let you try and educate an elderly man.

    Tell him, his effort is much appreciated.

    It's incredible to say that I saw video of an A388 on it's final flight, within seconds of it landing on a remote hill in Mayo - at an airport that was the subject of many a joke when I was a young lad. Mons Horan would be amazed and Jim Fahy must be too.

    I still remember the RTE news interview with Jim and Mons Horan, flimed as diggers were cutting the top off the hill to make it level, on a windswept rain driven day - Jim shouts to him 'What's going on here Monsignor ? and he replied ... 'We're building an airport!'.

    The world laughed... and yet for a few hours today, it was the focus of our attention..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Tell him, his effort is much appreciated.

    It's incredible to say that I saw video of an A388 on it's final flight, within seconds of it landing on a remote hill in Mayo - at an airport that was the subject of many a joke when I was a young lad. Mons Horan would be amazed and Jim Fahy must be too.

    I still remember the RTE news interview with Jim and Mons Horan, flimed as diggers were cutting the top off the hill to make it level, on a windswept rain driven day - Jim shouts to him 'What's going on here Monsignor ? and he replied ... 'We're building an airport!'.

    The world laughed... and yet for a few hours today, it was the focus of our attention..

    I just hope he doesn't see the post where I call him elderly :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Ger Roe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭plodder


    Seems to be turned around and on its way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Coil Kilcrea


    I can see your point and I'm an engineer myself.


    You could also argue though that if the engineering was better it would still be a going concern.


    What one of my lecturers used to call the "art" of engineering!



    A testament to what's possible to engineer all the same.


    I don’t fault the engineering, more likely the economics sullied its future. That said, I’m no fan of travelling across the Atlantic on an A321LR.


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    Osborne wrote: »
    I just hope he doesn't see the post where I call him elderly :D

    Apologies no offence meant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    I don’t fault the engineering, more likely the economics sullied its future. That said, I’m no fan of travelling across the Atlantic on an A321LR.


    Sadly satisfying the bean counters is a huge part of engineering!


    You design something lovely and then you have to redesign something "good enough" for half the price!


    I'm not involved in this field at all so I'm only talking in generalities and I definitely wouldn't in any way want to detract from the magnificent feat of getting something that great flying - without know anything about the technicalities it seems like amazing engineering design and implementation.


    Edited to add: Is the A321LR essentially the budget "good enough" replacement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    Glad to have caught sight of it. Made with with a min to spare with my daughters.
    Parked on the main road and it was about 100m away from being under the flight path.

    It went so slow across the sky in front of us, you'd be forgiven for not understanding how it was able to say in the air.
    Went up to the airport after to see if we could see any more if it but the place wedged with cars and onlookers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭wetoutside19


    Sadly satisfying the bean counters is a huge part of engineering

    You mean companies aren’t there to make commercially viable products that make profits and allow the company a chance to engineer future products?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    emo72 wrote: »
    that video from sean was like that one time, BA flew one up the liffey, that was brilliant.

    I was living in Smithfield at the time and I had no idea that the air show was on. All I was hearing was this constant racket. Took me ages to get my hungover ass to the window and I just saw all these planes flying right above my building. Ended up on the roof for a bit. Incredible day.

    Then the A380 flew down the Liffey...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    Apologies no offence meant.

    Ah stop! All good. He'll know for the next time ha!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Coil Kilcrea


    Sadly satisfying the bean counters is a huge part of engineering!


    You design something lovely and then you have to redesign something "good enough" for half the price!


    I'm not involved in this field at all so I'm only talking in generalities and I definitely wouldn't in any way want to detract from the magnificent feat of getting something that great flying - without know anything about the technicalities it seems like amazing engineering design and implementation.


    Edited to add: Is the A321LR essentially the budget "good enough" replacement?

    It's a collection of reasons. Customer convenience point-to-point, better fuel efficiency, more profitable and less risky economically ......picture accountants fretting over how to put bums on all those A380 seats. It never delivered on the fuel economy promised, launched late and in a market that was feeling pressure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Coil Kilcrea


    bunderoon wrote: »
    Glad to have caught sight of it. Made with with a min to spare with my daughters.
    Parked on the main road and it was about 100m away from being under the flight path.

    It went so slow across the sky in front of us, you'd be forgiven for not understanding how it was able to say in the air.
    Went up to the airport after to see if we could see any more if it but the place wedged with cars and onlookers.

    Great that you saw it landing in all its magnificence. It must have been quite a sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Found a video on youtube. No audio unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,992 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Thanks to everyone here who kept us all informed and for pictures and videos.

    What a magnificent looking machine. It looked like it was travelling at next to no speed when it landed and stopped very quickly.

    Just out of interest what sort of mph would it roughly have hit the tarmac at?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    I was living in Smithfield at the time and I had no idea that the air show was on. All I was hearing was this constant racket. Took me ages to get my hungover ass to the window and I just saw all these planes flying right above my building. Ended up on the roof for a bit. Incredible day.

    Then the A380 flew down the Liffey...
    Flightfest 15 Sept 2013


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86530989


    A380 from around post 66


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    What a great few days. It was such a joy to see so many people arriving with excitement and, most importantly, amicably, to share in this unique experience.
    I'd like to thank my two Buddies in Germany, one of them an ex-school pal, who originally gave me the heads up two weeks ago and then subsequently shared multiple strands of Information to finally allow me to share the timing of the event with so many here, and on the Knock Runwayside Facebook page. Well done also to the Admins for not jumping the gun until we had absolute proof that it was a go today
    It was a fantastic opportunity to give to the many kids who arrived up to the bitterly cold hilltop to see, what was for many of them, their first landing of an aircraft so close to where they were standing.

    There was no pushing, no hogging of positions, no selflessness and everyone arrived and left in an orderly fashion

    Finally, this is the first of quite a few of these arrivals and as soon as I get wind of the next one, you will be the first to know.

    Time to thaw out.

    Over and Out

    P.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great that the skies ended up being so clear for the landing given what the weather has been like lately. Hopefully the rumours are true and a few more A380s will arrive in for scrappage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,128 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    tricky D wrote: »
    Flightfest 15 Sept 2013


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86530989


    A380 from around post 66


    Here is one I took on that day.



    503383.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭wetoutside19


    greenpilot wrote: »
    What a great few days. It was such a joy to see so many people arriving with excitement and, most importantly, amicably, to share in this unique experience.
    I'd like to thank my two Buddies in Germany, one of them an ex-school pal, who originally gave me the heads up two weeks ago and then subsequently shared multiple strands of Information to finally allow me to share the timing of the event with so many here, and on the Knock Runwayside Facebook page. Well done also to the Admins for not jumping the gun until we had absolute proof that it was a go today
    It was a fantastic opportunity to give to the many kids who arrived up to the bitterly cold hilltop to see, what was for many of them, their first landing of an aircraft so close to where they were standing.

    There was no pushing, no hogging of positions, no selflessness and everyone arrived and left in an orderly fashion

    Finally, this is the first of quite a few of these arrivals and as soon as I get wind of the next one, you will be the first to know.

    Time to thaw out.

    Over and Out

    P.

    Many thanks for the heads up, your inside information was invaluable.


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    mfceiling wrote: »
    Just out of interest what sort of mph would it roughly have hit the tarmac at?

    106kts/122 mph according to FR24. I'm surprised it overran the exit for the ramp at that speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    A380 parked on bravo at knock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    I'm happy to see the discussion on here is civil. I have been observing with disbelief the utter nonsense that has been taking place on the Dublin movements spotters group all afternoon, do people not realise we can see their names? Working in the industry I can say if any of them came in to me for an interview they'd be wasting more than just their time.

    Here's to the next arrival and more civil chat on this forum hopefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    1123heavy wrote: »
    I'm happy to see the discussion on here is civil. I have been observing with disbelief the utter nonsense that has been taking place on the Dublin movements spotters group all afternoon, do people not realise we can see their names? Working in the industry I can say if any of them came in to me for an interview they'd be wasting more than just their time.

    Here's to the next arrival and more civil chat on this forum hopefully.

    What are they on about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,025 ✭✭✭✭GBX




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    1123heavy wrote: »
    I'm happy to see the discussion on here is civil. I have been observing with disbelief the utter nonsense that has been taking place on the Dublin movements spotters group all afternoon, do people not realise we can see their names? Working in the industry I can say if any of them came in to me for an interview they'd be wasting more than just their time.

    Here's to the next arrival and more civil chat on this forum hopefully.

    Any examples? I'm curious...


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