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Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

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  • #8802
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    Even though your idea is flawed from the get go, I'll give you a go.

    How would that be achieved and what proof would be needed?

    Hypothetical question

    If your child had received a GIM from the Gardaí. Would you be allowing them to leave the house?

    Do you believe that children are the responsibility of their parents?


  • #8803
    Felix Guzman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Felix Guzman


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    Even though your idea is flawed from the get go, I'll give you a go.

    How would that be achieved and what proof would be needed?

    Wrong thread for getting into this debate but quite simple if someone under 18 convicted for serious criminal offenses parents or legal guardian should also be held accountable.


  • #8804
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Felix Guzman wrote: »
    Wrong thread for getting into this debate but quite simple if someone under 18 convicted for serious criminal offenses parents or legal guardian should also be held accountable.
    Don't forget, someone under 18 is a CHILD! :)

    Not your ornery onager



  • #8805
    guccimain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭guccimain


    Esel wrote: »
    Don't forget, someone under 18 is a CHILD!

    He was nearly 18, and obviously was old enough to know how to make petrol bombs and terrorise elderly people.

    Don't forget that mate


  • #8806
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    guccimain wrote: »
    He was nearly 18, and obviously was old enough to know how to make petrol bombs and terrorise elderly people.

    Don't forget that mate
    Whoosh.

    I have added a smilie to my post.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #8807
    judaspig
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭judaspig


    Has anyone heard anything about what Ian maddog Maloney has been upto, everyone thought that he would be running riot when he first got out of jail.


  • #8808
    judaspig
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭judaspig


    Has anyone heard anything about what Ian maddog Maloney has been upto, everyone thought that he would be running riot when he first got out of jail.


  • #8809
    Cork_Langer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Cork_Langer1


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Hypothetical question

    If your child had received a GIM from the Gardaí. Would you be allowing them to leave the house?

    Do you believe that children are the responsibility of their parents?

    Truthfully IMO, I wouldn't let them out of my sight never mind house.

    Yes I do, I'd also expect the guards to make sure a child given a GIM, doesn't get killed not to mention how barbaric KMs murder was.

    He was groomed from a very early age.
    Felix Guzman wrote: »
    Wrong thread for getting into this debate but quite simple if someone under 18 convicted for serious criminal offenses parents or legal guardian should also be held accountable.

    It's the perfect tread, there's nothing happening at the moment.

    Who deems what to be a serious criminal offence? You, me,guards, a judge, the minister of justice?

    "Under Section 258 of the Children Act 2001 an offence committed by a child under the age of 18, for which they have been found guilty, can be automatically expunged from the record as if never committed, once certain conditions are met. The conditions are as follows:

    "The offence was committed before the child reached the age of 18 years
    The offence is not one required to be tried by the Central Criminal Court (such as murder or rape)
    At least 3 years have elapsed since the finding of guilt and
    The child has not been dealt with for another offence in that 3-year period."

    Esel wrote: »
    Don't forget, someone under 18 is a CHILD! :)

    "In Ireland under the Child Care Act 1991, the Children Act 2001 and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child a child is defined as anyone under the age of 18."

    I'll keep repeating that to you seems I put your nose out by referring to a child as a child :).


  • #8810
    Felix Guzman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Felix Guzman


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    Truthfully IMO, I wouldn't let them out of my sight never mind house.

    Yes I do, I'd also expect the guards to make sure a child given a GIM, doesn't get killed not to mention how barbaric KMs murder was.

    He was groomed from a very early age.



    It's the perfect tread, there's nothing happening at the moment.

    Who deems what to be a serious criminal offence? You, me,guards, a judge, the minister of justice?

    "Under Section 258 of the Children Act 2001 an offence committed by a child under the age of 18, for which they have been found guilty, can be automatically expunged from the record as if never committed, once certain conditions are met. The conditions are as follows:

    "The offence was committed before the child reached the age of 18 years
    The offence is not one required to be tried by the Central Criminal Court (such as murder or rape)
    At least 3 years have elapsed since the finding of guilt and
    The child has not been dealt with for another offence in that 3-year period."




    "In Ireland under the Child Care Act 1991, the Children Act 2001 and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child a child is defined as anyone under the age of 18."

    I'll keep repeating that to you seems I put your nose out by referring to a child as a child :).

    Do you have the same opinion of boy A and B that they were only children ?


  • #8811
    guccimain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭guccimain


    Felix Guzman wrote: »
    Do you have the same opinion of boy A and B that they were only children ?

    Two animals and I can say for myself that they deserve what they will get when they come outside.

    Googling child and horse p**n at the age of 12 is bullet orders if you ask me.

    That can never be rehabilitated


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  • #8812
    Cork_Langer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Cork_Langer1


    Felix Guzman wrote: »
    Do you have the same opinion of boy A and B that they were only children ?

    Different kettle of fish altogether.

    I've had to look these up because the case was so bad I didn't follow it at the time.

    "The teen known as Boy A, who was convicted of murder and aggravated sexual assault, was sentenced to life with a review after 12 years for murdering the 14-year-old. He was also sentenced to 12 years for an aggravated sexual assault on Ana, which will run alongside the murder sentence."

    "His co-accused, known as Boy B, was sentenced to 15 years for murder with a review after eight years"

    There's no comparison between KM and boy a and b.


  • #8813
    Thesiger
    Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭Thesiger


    Jessejameslad wrote: »
    Zacks family was notified that the suspected shooter was marry gcquilan bestfriend of warry bolverson,live beside each other in moyclare baldoyle

    Interesting. Might be wrong, but I seem to remember the general feeling on here was that the lie detector fella currently locked up awaiting trial for another shooting was behind it.


  • #8814
    Felix Guzman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Felix Guzman


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    Different kettle of fish altogether.

    I've had to look these up because the case was so bad I didn't follow it at the time.

    "The teen known as Boy A, who was convicted of murder and aggravated sexual assault, was sentenced to life with a review after 12 years for murdering the 14-year-old. He was also sentenced to 12 years for an aggravated sexual assault on Ana, which will run alongside the murder sentence."

    "His co-accused, known as Boy B, was sentenced to 15 years for murder with a review after eight years"

    There's no comparison between KM and boy a and b.

    I’m well aware of all 3 just making a point, but you just change your mind when it suits your agenda .Km was old enough to know right from wrong and as much as you say he was groomed other people including the Garda had tried to get him back in the right path, he choose not to .


  • #8815
    Robbie Crosby
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 123 ✭✭Robbie Crosby


    good evening one and all
    beasty has granted me my release
    from boards lock up

    what a week it was

    6 people to carry a coffin when 1 could have done the same carrying a picnic basket?


  • #8816
    judaspig
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭judaspig


    Robbie Crosby wrote: »
    good evening one and all
    beasty has granted me my release
    from boards lock up

    what a week it was

    6 people to carry a coffin when 1 could have done the same carrying a picnic basket


    Bloody hell, bit harsh that man.


  • #8817
    Prisoner 0922156
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Prisoner 0922156


    Robbie Crosby wrote: »
    good evening one and all
    beasty has granted me my release
    from boards lock up

    what a week it was

    6 people to carry a coffin when 1 could have done the same carrying a picnic basket

    Thought by many, said by none. Until Robbie appears... :D:D


  • #8818
    Robbie Crosby
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 123 ✭✭Robbie Crosby


    judaspig wrote: »
    Bloody hell, bit harsh that man.

    it's the truth though


  • #8819
    judaspig
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭judaspig


    Robbie Crosby wrote: »
    it's the truth though

    True, just don't wanna see you on a ban again. One of the few good posters left around here lol


  • #8820
    Robbie Crosby
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 123 ✭✭Robbie Crosby


    judaspig wrote: »
    True, just don't wanna see you on a ban again. One of the few good posters left around here lol

    banned for what
    this is a discussion forum
    i raised a point for discussion


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  • #8821
    Cork_Langer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Cork_Langer1


    Felix Guzman wrote: »
    I’m well aware of all 3 just making a point, but you just change your mind when it suits your agenda .Km was old enough to know right from wrong and as much as you say he was groomed other people including the Garda had tried to get him back in the right path, he choose not to .

    I didn't change my mind boy a and b were charged with murder of another child boy a was charged with sexual assault, they are deemed as serious as you can get.

    There's no comparison or word play that can even justify what ever point you're trying to make.

    It has been shown that the gardai couldn't have given a ****e about KM even though they gave him a GIM and the barbaric way he was killed..

    A **** show they're.


  • #8822
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    guccimain wrote: »
    Two animals and I can say for myself that they deserve what they will get when they come outside.

    Googling child and horse p**n at the age of 12 is bullet orders if you ask me.

    That can never be rehabilitated

    Without commenting on the other debate about parents and their kids, boy A and boy Bs parents should and hopefully are being investigated there is some serious questions that need to be asked to them in regards to neglect etc.


  • #8823
    Felix Guzman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Felix Guzman


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    I didn't change my mind boy a and b were charged with murder of another child boy a was charged with sexual assault, they are deemed as serious as you can get.

    There's no comparison or word play that can even justify what ever point you're trying to make.

    It has been shown that the gardai couldn't have given a ****e about KM even though they gave him a GIM and the barbaric way he was killed..

    A **** show they're.
    Last reply to you but it was never going to end well for him it was only a matter of time .


  • #8824
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    guccimain wrote: »
    Two animals and I can say for myself that they deserve what they will get when they come outside.

    Googling child and horse p**n at the age of 12 is bullet orders if you ask me.

    That can never be rehabilitated

    Without commenting on the other debate about parents and their kids, boy A and boy Bs parents should and hopefully are being investigated there is some serious questions that need to be asked to them in regards to neglect etc.


  • #8825
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    OmarLittle187 wrote: »
    Without commenting on the other debate about parents and their kids, boy A and boy Bs parents should and hopefully are being investigated there is some serious questions that need to be asked to them in regards to neglect etc.

    Actually that is off topic to the thread. My bad peeps


  • #8826
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/missing-torso-a-setback-to-mulready-woods-murder-inquiry-1.4174344?mode=amp


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  • #8827
    OmarLittle187
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 281 ✭✭OmarLittle187


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/missing-torso-a-setback-to-mulready-woods-murder-inquiry-1.4174344?mode=amp


  • #8828
    Prisoner 0922156
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Prisoner 0922156


    OmarLittle187 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/missing-torso-a-setback-to-mulready-woods-murder-inquiry-1.4174344?mode=amp

    They'll need to find a rat then...


  • #8829
    NewMan1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    I didn't change my mind boy a and b were charged with murder of another child boy a was charged with sexual assault, they are deemed as serious as you can get.

    There's no comparison or word play that can even justify what ever point you're trying to make.

    It has been shown that the gardai couldn't have given a ****e about KM even though they gave him a GIM and the barbaric way he was killed..

    A **** show they're.

    So our tax money should go on 24/7 protection of youths involved in drug gangs that have been served a GIM.

    I wouldn’t want a penny of my tax being spent on that. You lay with dogs.....


  • #8830
    Cork_Langer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Cork_Langer1


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    So our tax money should go on 24/7 protection of youths involved in drug gangs that have been served a GIM.

    I wouldn’t want a penny of my tax being spent on that. You lay with dogs.....

    YOUR tax money is already protecting pedos, is protecting patsy hutch (I've no issue with that) you don't get a say in what or who YOUR tax money protects.


  • #8831
    Robbie Crosby
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 123 ✭✭Robbie Crosby


    i absolutely loved the fake rolex floral tribute
    an awful pity
    that the tinkers didnt turn up
    scramblers were class though


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  • #8832
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,380 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Robbie Crosby wrote: »
    banned for what
    Banned for a month this time...


  • #8833
    2PLUS2EQUALS10
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭2PLUS2EQUALS10


    Nothing changes on here, still bickering over a different opinion or not living next to the fued.


  • #8834
    2PLUS2EQUALS10
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭2PLUS2EQUALS10


    Also I would like to add!

    As much as Keane did wrong in his youthful years, can we all respect the notion of not speaking Ill of the dead?


  • #8835
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »
    Also I would like to add!

    As much as Keane did wrong in his youthful years, can we all respect the notion of not speaking Ill of the dead?

    bollox
    he was a active violent criminal and died a violent criminals death

    there was no innocence in him or his actions

    his future victims will never know how luckey they are

    its a shame more of them don't save the state the cost of locking them up


  • #8836
    Hoboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »
    Also I would like to add!

    As much as Keane did wrong in his youthful years, can we all respect the notion of not speaking Ill of the dead?

    That's gotta be sarcasm.


  • #8837
    Felix Guzman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Felix Guzman


    2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »
    Also I would like to add!

    As much as Keane did wrong in his youthful years, can we all respect the notion of not speaking Ill of the dead?

    don’t fcek with cats


  • #8838
    2PLUS2EQUALS10
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭2PLUS2EQUALS10


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    bollox
    he was a active violent criminal and died a violent criminals death

    there was no innocence in him or his actions

    his future victims will never know how luckey they are

    its a shame more of them don't save the state the cost of locking them up

    No winners here!

    Whether you agree with my opinion or not. I was brought up in a household that laid down principles. Speaking Ill of the dead doesn’t solve anything.


  • #8839
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »
    No winners here!

    Whether you agree with my opinion or not. I was brought up in a household that laid down principles. Speaking Ill of the dead doesn’t solve anything.

    might make a difference for the next generation so that they don't turn into feral little creeps if they didn't hear about the innocent sweet child who was murdered and instead heard about that results of the choices to be a criminal


    by the way , I ve known lots of dead D%£ckheads


  • #8840
    2PLUS2EQUALS10
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭2PLUS2EQUALS10


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    might make a difference for the next generation so that they don't turn into feral little creeps if they didn't hear about the innocent sweet child who was murdered and instead heard about that results of the choices to be a criminal


    by the way , I ve known lots of dead D%£ckheads

    Like I said that’s your opinion.


  • #8841
    Hoboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »
    No winners here!

    Whether you agree with my opinion or not. I was brought up in a household that laid down principles. Speaking Ill of the dead doesn’t solve anything.

    **** him a thousand times. And that little bollox with the stripe on his head carrying the coffin and playing on his scrambler, hopefully next up. Riding around in an A7 acting the **** only ends one way.


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  • #8842
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    OmarLittle187 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/missing-torso-a-setback-to-mulready-woods-murder-inquiry-1.4174344?mode=amp

    Said it ages ago in this thread without the torso they've got nothing to go on, it's horrendous reading the details. Whoever found the parts will never sleep normal again. Like a poster said it'll be a snitch that'll undo the killers here, surely the video evidence can be used too if it's found to be true.


  • #8843
    2PLUS2EQUALS10
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭2PLUS2EQUALS10


    Hoboo wrote: »
    **** him a thousand times. And that little bollox with the stripe on his head carrying the coffin and playing on his scrambler, hopefully next up. Riding around in an A7 acting the **** only ends one way.

    You seem to hold quite an attitude towards a dead person.

    Maybe focus that energy in a way that could help the next one you hope death upon?

    Taking your stance helps nobody


  • #8844
    italodisco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Is this related to keanes funeral?

    I also seen comments on it suggesting the guy on the bike was elected, hopefully not a politician lol
    https://twitter.com/VideosSick/status/1228081903053541378?s=19


  • #8845
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,245 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    I should make a video on how to put someone on ignore on boards and post it here.

    People keep replying rather the put them on ignore list.


  • #8846
    italodisco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    I should make a video on how to put someone on ignore on boards and post it here.

    People keep replying rather the put them on ignore list.

    Is that directed towards me


  • #8847
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    I should make a video on how to put someone on ignore on boards and post it here.

    People keep replying rather the put them on ignore list.

    It would be handy if the mods could implement a system where the username could have re-reg beside it.


  • #8848
    Googleyes
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭Googleyes


    italodisco wrote: »
    Is this related to keanes funeral?

    I also seen comments on it suggesting the guy on the bike was elected, hopefully not a politician lol
    https://twitter.com/VideosSick/status/1228081903053541378?s=19

    Yes that keanes brother


  • #8849
    Googleyes
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭Googleyes


    Hoboo wrote: »
    **** him a thousand times. And that little bollox with the stripe on his head carrying the coffin and playing on his scrambler, hopefully next up. Riding around in an A7 acting the **** only ends one way.

    The A7 ? Yea he might be a passenger in it but he certainly doesn't own it I sense abit jealousy here


  • #8850
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Hoboo wrote: »
    **** him a thousand times. And that little bollox with the stripe on his head carrying the coffin and playing on his scrambler, hopefully next up. Riding around in an A7 acting the **** only ends one way.

    He is his brother so obviously he's feeling all types of grief sure wouldn't you if your brother was murdered and chopped up like an animal if that's all he does is act the dcik and blow fumes out of a scrambler then he's doing nothing wrong there.


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  • #8851
    NewMan1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Cork_Langer1 wrote: »
    YOUR tax money is already protecting pedos, is protecting patsy hutch (I've no issue with that) you don't get a say in what or who YOUR tax money protects.

    And neither do you. So what’s your point?


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