2020 6 Nations - Ireland vs Wales match thread

Neil3030 · 08-02-2020 12:51am #1

Ireland play Wales tomorrow.

I don't have a preview for this match.

I just want everyone to watch this video before they post.

Maybe the adorableness can keep the provincial ****housery wolf from the door.

Enjoy the game!

sydthebeat · 08-02-2020 8:38am

I've gone from nervously positive to extremely negative about today.

I don't see any signs of how we can win, apart form the weather, which depresses me.

Wales Hockeyed us last year.
They reached a RWC semi final playing their brand of rugby.
They put it up to the eventual winners in one of the most dour games I've ever watched, showing the can play negative rugby too.
They had a stroll last weekend.

The only game in the last year where we physically matched our opposition was the Scotland first round game, where they were dire.
We had a tough game last week and shipped injuries to important players.
We are turgid in attack, they are humming along.

So like I said, it's actually the weather that I think will work on our favour if anything, which makes me incredibly sad.

If we don't match up physically, like we didn't do last week, we will lose by a lot.
If we do match up, the we could sneak it on a low scoring penalty filled horror show of a game

Burkie1203 · 08-02-2020 9:30am

Think Wales will win. They have a better backrow and their half backs are in far better form. Tight edgy game but wales to win by 3-5

Panda Killa · 08-02-2020 9:49am

I've always been quite positive going into 6 nations campaigns, hope springs eternal and all that.
But, not this time....I can't see where we win this game today...if both wingers are on fire..it's possible....but I'm thinking a Welsh win, comfortably enough too
Hope to Christ I'm wrong though..

penybont exile · 08-02-2020 9:58am

Tbh I wouldn't be so down on your chances..... Ireland are going to be hugely motivated for this..... Any win for us today will be a really good outcome.

8-10 · 08-02-2020 10:00am

Wales were poor last week tactically and with game management in the second half.

I think we'll have the edge today and should actually win comfortably

Ireland by 12

penybont exile · 08-02-2020 10:01am

Also in the context of the championship this is a really pivotal game for us.. Win it and I'd fancy us to retain the title.

Former Former · 08-02-2020 10:02am

Be grand, sure it's only Wales

Shefwedfan · 08-02-2020 10:02am

8-10 wrote: »

Wales were poor last week tactically and with game management in the second half.

I think we'll have the edge today and should actually win comfortably

Ireland by 12

They won 42-0.....

If they are that terrible and nil a side we are in trouble

Lucy8080 · 08-02-2020 10:25am

We conceded 9 penalties to a flakey/wasteful Scotland side last week. This week we are up against a side that has Biggar/Halfpenny . Any sniff at the posts and they will punish us. Any oppourtunities for the try-line, like Scotland created last week, and I cant see Wales being so wasteful.

But,still, C'mon Ireland. My heart lives in hope,my head scorns my hope!

As another poster said, the weather might save us!

stephen_n · 08-02-2020 10:37am

It’s getting a bit like the French at this stage if, if, if we can turn up. We know the forwards are capable of fronting up physically, they do it for their clubs in Europe and have done it at international level for a long time. They just haven’t seemed to be able to get to that level in the last 12 months and it’s hard to understand why. I think our attacking shape looked quite good last week, we just couldn’t get consistently clean ball. Reynal really didn’t help on that front, but our forwards were not physical enough at the breakdown. Maybe today we will turn up, or maybe we won’t, it’s frustrating waiting for it to happen though.

WoollyRedHat · 08-02-2020 11:19am

Looking forward to this, will be quite physical, but also expecting game to be quite open

Does anyone know somewhere decent in Rathgar in Dublin that will be showing game?

ionadnapokot · 08-02-2020 12:15pm

stephen_n wrote: »

It’s getting a bit like the French at this stage if, if, if we can turn up. We know the forwards are capable of fronting up physically, they do it for their clubs in Europe and have done it at international level for a long time. They just haven’t seemed to be able to get to that level in the last 12 months and it’s hard to understand why. I think our attacking shape looked quite good last week, we just couldn’t get consistently clean ball. Reynal really didn’t help on that front, but our forwards were not physical enough at the breakdown. Maybe today we will turn up, or maybe we won’t, it’s frustrating waiting for it to happen though.

Furlong & CJ were of the standard required last week. In both work rate and physicality.
VdF put his body on the line and made a nuisance of himself at the ruck.
Ryan was good but not of his usual great standards. In fairness he took on allot of ball close in.

Healy, Herring, Henderson and POM need a big increase in performance if Ireland are to win today.

Hopefully Kelleher gets a good run today.
Furlong might only last for 45/50 mins after last weeks heroics.

Think he would be a good candidate for captain.

corcaigh07 · 08-02-2020 12:20pm

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Looking forward to this, will be quite physical, but also expecting game to be quite open

Does anyone know somewhere decent in Rathgar in Dublin that will be showing game?

The 108 but go now for seats!

mfceiling · 08-02-2020 12:35pm

Lads anywhere in London (oxford street area) that you could recommend?

Bonus if it does decent grub.

Thisonedone · 08-02-2020 1:15pm

The game kicks off at 2.15 and coverage on virgin one starts at 1, madness, what are they going to talk about for so long? 75 mins of pre game chatting about a game that lasts 80 mins (really about 45 mins if you only count the time the ball is in play). Could understand if it was a world cup semi final or something.

thebaz · 08-02-2020 1:15pm

Huge test for Farrell - superb rugby player , but untested as a coach at this level , so far it has been more of the same 2019 form and conservative selections (Murray/POM) , apart from try saw very little to be positive about against Scotland, lose and play badly he will come under real pressure , I agree with Franno , it was the wrong selection , and made too early, job should have been given to Lancaster.

stephen_n · 08-02-2020 1:20pm

thebaz wrote: »

Huge test for Farrell - superb rugby player , but untested as a coach at this level , so far it has been more of the same 2019 form and conservative selections (Murray/POM) , apart from try saw very little to be positive about against Scotland, lose and play badly he will come under real pressure , I agree with Franno , it was the wrong selection , and made too early, job should have been given to Lancaster.

Agreeing with Franno is always a bad place to start. Lancaster wasn’t interested, he didn’t go for the job. It is completely ridiculous to talk about Farrell being the wrong person for the job after one game (we won). To quote Nigel this isn’t football you know?

thebaz · 08-02-2020 1:24pm

stephen_n wrote: »

Agreeing with Franno is always a bad place to start. Lancaster wasn’t interested, he didn’t go for the job. It is completely ridiculous to talk about Farrell being the wrong person for the job after one game (we won). To quote Nigel this isn’t football you know?

Joe was supposedly not interested last time, heading back to NZ , but money talks these days.

Not completly ridiculous to question Farrells early appointment after such a dreadful world cup failure , while Leinster under Lancaster/Cullen are tearing it up - the IRFU over the past decade have managed rugby well, but this appointment I fear was not the correct one , and said so when he was appointed .

ionadnapokot · 08-02-2020 1:28pm

Wind picking up nicely around town.

I think we all know what’s going to happen! & it’s fair enough if you can gain advantage from it.
Also expecting Wales to test Larmour with a few garryowens and kicks into space.

Pauliedragon · 08-02-2020 1:29pm

Cork city is full of Welsh jerseys. Not an Irish one to be seen. Very strange.

stephen_n · 08-02-2020 1:30pm

thebaz wrote: »

Joe was supposedly not interested last time, heading back to NZ , but money talks these days.

Not completly ridiculous to question Farrells early appointment after such a dreadful world cup failure , while Leinster under Lancaster/Cullen are tearing it up - the IRFU over the past decade have managed rugby well, but this appointment I fear was not the correct one , and said so when he was appointed .

Farrell was appointed after Ireland tore it up in 2018. If money talked Lancaster would be in England coaching. He said he wasn’t interested in the job and has said on multiple occasions he doesn’t want a head coach role in that sense. I’m sure you were probably agreeing with George Hook that Schmidt lost the Leinster dressing room and wasn’t the man for the job as he’d no head coach experience, when he came to Leinster.

stephen_n · 08-02-2020 1:31pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Cork city is full of Welsh jerseys. Not an Irish one to be seen. Very strange.

Funny there’s feck all in Dublin

You sure they’re not Munster Jersey’s?

Dubinusa · 08-02-2020 1:31pm

I think Farrell could be ideal for us! Of course, he could piss the sheets too! I'm willing to wait 18 months. If we still play like geebags then, I will hope he's replaced.
The big picture is... this is only match 2! Think we should give him some time , and then summon the guillotine!

Pauliedragon · 08-02-2020 1:43pm

stephen_n wrote: »

Funny there’s feck all in Dublin

You sure they’re not Munster Jersey’s?

Na. Havent been drinking yet unfortunately I'm at work. Defo welsh just found out a big group are in town for a friend's 50th. They couldn't get tix for the game so came to Cork for the weekend instead. They don't like Dublin so they came to the real capital instead

sliabh 1956 · 08-02-2020 2:20pm

i must say i love RoG on TV3 he talks so much sense

budhabob · 08-02-2020 2:22pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Cork city is full of Welsh jerseys. Not an Irish one to be seen. Very strange.

Kilkenny full of welsh aswell

jacothelad · 08-02-2020 2:31pm

thebaz wrote: »

Huge test for Farrell - superb rugby player , but untested as a coach at this level , so far it has been more of the same 2019 form and conservative selections (Murray/POM) , apart from try saw very little to be positive about against Scotland, lose and play badly he will come under real pressure , I agree with Franno , it was the wrong selection , and made too early, job should have been given to Lancaster.

Lancaster isn't available and I doubt he would want the job.....just yet.

mangobob · 08-02-2020 2:50pm

penybont exile wrote: »

Tbh I wouldn't be so down on your chances..... Ireland are going to be hugely motivated for this..... Any win for us today will be a really good outcome.

I understand where you are coming from, but to be honest I think you guys will take this.

Wales are a formidable team who always believe that they have Irelands number. They are reigning GS champs and beat Italy out the gate without ever getting out of third gear. You have momentum coming into this.

We on the other hand are a team in decline over the last 18 months, culminating in a desperately disappointing world cup where we completely flopped. We have a new regime with an unproven coach and were pretty underwhelming last week against an admittedly better than expected Scotland.

As a long suffering Irish rugby fan I am rarely a beacon of optimism however I am more pessimistic than usual today. I fear that our international team is entering a wilderness period for the foreseeable future. I hope I am wrong.

Former Former · 08-02-2020 3:04pm

mangobob wrote: »

As a long suffering Irish rugby fan I am rarely a beacon of optimism however I am more pessimistic than usual today.

The last decade has been the most successful in our history, by a long long way.

Whatever suffering you're imagining is entirely self inflicted.

molloyjh · 08-02-2020 3:06pm

mangobob wrote: »

I understand where you are coming from, but to be honest I think you guys will take this.

Wales are a formidable team who always believe that they have Irelands number. They are reigning GS champs and beat Italy out the gate without ever getting out of third gear. You have momentum coming into this.

We on the other hand are a team in decline over the last 18 months, culminating in a desperately disappointing world cup where we completely flopped. We have a new regime with an unproven coach and were pretty underwhelming last week against an admittedly better than expected Scotland.

As a long suffering Irish rugby fan I am rarely a beacon of optimism however I am more pessimistic than usual today. I fear that our international team is entering a wilderness period for the foreseeable future. I hope I am wrong.

18 months ago was August 2018. 3 months before one of our victories over NZ. Can we leave the hyperbole out of this please.

pc7 · 08-02-2020 3:07pm

Really hope we see more aggression and go from us today, felt so flat last weekend. I can’t see us wining this sadly.

mangobob · 08-02-2020 3:08pm

Former Former wrote: »

The last decade has been the most successful in our history, by a long long way.

Whatever suffering you're imagining is entirely self inflicted.

Newsflash for you. Irish rugby didnt begin in the last ten years. Some of us have been supporters for a lot longer than that. Believe me there was a sh*t ton of suffering for a couple of decades prior to that golden era.

And as successful as that period has been, there was plenty of disappointment there too, not to mention twice on the biggest stage of all where completely we sh*t the bed.

Self inflicted my arse.

ClanofLams · 08-02-2020 3:08pm

Don’t think I have ever heard ROG back against Ireland.

Ardillaun · 08-02-2020 3:10pm

pc7 wrote: »

Really hope we see more aggression and go from us today, felt so flat last weekend. I can’t see us wining this sadly.

It’s our sluggishness that’s bothered me recently. We need to start well at least and unsettle them.

DDC1990 · 08-02-2020 3:10pm

There might be a really obvious answer for this, but why did POM introduce all the players to Michael D and not Johnny Sexton?
Edit: Getting strapping done apparantly.

AlfaZen · 08-02-2020 3:10pm

Is Sexton playing? POM doing the intros to Mícheál D??

JRant · 08-02-2020 3:11pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

There might be a really obvious answer for this, but why did POM introduce all the players to Michael D and not Johnny Sexton?

Pashun

Tommybojangles · 08-02-2020 3:12pm

What's going with POM doing the captains duties?

mangobob · 08-02-2020 3:12pm

molloyjh wrote: »

18 months ago was August 2018. 3 months before one of our victories over NZ. Can we leave the hyperbole out of this please.

Yeah fair enough I was inaccurate with the 18 month figure.

But the rest of my point still stands.

ricero · 08-02-2020 3:13pm

Ireland's call makes me cringe every time without fail

molloyjh · 08-02-2020 3:13pm

Former Former wrote: »

The last decade has been the most successful in our history, by a long long way.

Whatever suffering you're imagining is entirely self inflicted.

Over the last decade we have won 2 Championships and 1 GS. Only Wales have been more successful in the 6Ns, with 1 Championship and 2 GS. So basically they won 1 more game in 1 if those Championships. In that time our record vs SH opposition has been out of sight of Wales record against the same opposition. There really has feck all between us in the last decade.

Meanwhile our provinces have basically mopped the floor with theirs in terms of success.

Itssoeasy · 08-02-2020 3:13pm

Voting done so now on to the rugby.

ctrl-alt-delete · 08-02-2020 3:14pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

There might be a really obvious answer for this, but why did POM introduce all the players to Michael D and not Johnny Sexton?
Edit: Getting strapping done apparantly.

Sexton doesn't know them all.

molloyjh · 08-02-2020 3:14pm

mangobob wrote: »

Yeah fair enough I was inaccurate with the 18 month figure.

But the rest of my point still stands.

Nope. See above.

Former Former · 08-02-2020 3:16pm

mangobob wrote: »

Newsflash for you. Irish rugby didnt begin in the last ten years. Some of us have been supporters for a lot longer than that. Believe me there was a sh*t ton of suffering for a couple of decades prior to that golden era.

And as successful as that period has been, there was plenty of disappointment there too, not to mention twice on the biggest stage of all where completely we sh*t the bed.

Self inflicted my arse.

Yes, it is now 30-odd years since I attended my first Ireland game.

That's why I appreciate the success of the last ten years. You choose not to. That's why it's self - inflicted. That's your choice and it's fine but I don't understand the mentality of you hoping we lose.

bilston · 08-02-2020 3:16pm

Good staet

Shefwedfan · 08-02-2020 3:17pm

Sexton fired up

Panda Killa · 08-02-2020 3:17pm

Good, encouraging start here

steves2 · 08-02-2020 3:17pm

What was bigger at

Itssoeasy · 08-02-2020 3:17pm

Sloppy from wales there.

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