General Election TV debates

marieholmfan · 04-02-2020 11:56PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

I might be a voter for all you know. Certainly registers with me. No way would I vote for terrorists looking for a new gig now business in their first career has dried up.

You have to be 18 to vote and you need a psychiatrists permission to vote after being sectioned .

That's you excluded on two counts.

boardise · 04-02-2020 11:56PM

Millionaire only not wrote: »

And Mary Lou falls with furlong to go !

LOL.

Keen at the start ,continually jumped to the left , lost place at halfway under pressure 3 out , weakened final furlong.

johnmcdnl · 04-02-2020 11:56PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

All that RTE bias ehh

jos28 · 04-02-2020 11:56PM

I think the strategy of allowing MLM to participate went exactly as MM and LV hoped it would. She was playing well out of her league. She can talk the talk (Trump/Farage style) but she can't walk the walk. Her populist, soundbite approach was exposed as shallow and one dimensional.
Excruciating to watch her squirm on the SCC and Paul Flynn questions, she didn't do herself any favours on climate change either.

RoryMac · 04-02-2020 11:56PM

MM was shocking tonight imo, no plan of action for any of the main issues and struggled to explain why he propped up FG when he apparently disagreed with their policies so strongly. Especially as he said governments & the EU frontline was changing all over Europe despite Brexit but yet he kept propping up FG.

Leo was the more comfortable throughout but FG have had 9 years and should've done more to turn around the main issues of housing and healthcare.

Mary-Lou as expected very strong at pointing out the failings of FG & FF but I don't have any confidence in their plans for solving the issues and how they'll pay for them.

Was undecided before the debate and still am but I've ruled out any vote for FF as I don't feel they've learnt from the problems they caused 10 years ago and seem more interested in propping up big business than trying to help ordinary working people

Finty Lemon · 04-02-2020 11:57PM

https://youtu.be/OJATctEBGAI

Wake up UCD students

charlie14 · 04-02-2020 11:57PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I did.

I can see how the usual suspects here are zeroing in once again on the 'RA stuff. But that is not registering with voters.
I think otherwise it was a draw with MM maybe getting an edge. Too late though imo.

Thought Martin edged it over Varadkar

Said earlier that Mary Lou had nothing to gain by taking part, and that is how it panned out.

Jizique · 04-02-2020 11:57PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think that one is backfiring on Leo already. They let him walk away and are bailing out a largely unreformed organisation. Twitter not liking it.

It’s just like MM walked away 9 years ago and after the bail out and the cleanup, he is coming back for a second go at destroying the economy

easypazz · 04-02-2020 11:58PM

Opinions are like assholes, that "neutral" on rte is mistaken.

Expect ff and fg to be like a dog with a bone over this for the next few days.

Jinglejangle69 · 04-02-2020 11:58PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!

RTÉ are in the governments pocket according to the SF party faithful here.

Go figure.

dundalkfc10 · 04-02-2020 11:58PM

smurgen wrote: »

There's no Garda investigation into the FAI or JD and no governance reforms of the organisation have been put in place. I think he shouldn't have mentioned it.

Yes there is

gmisk · 04-02-2020 11:58PM

marieholmfan wrote: »

I think we can all get behind that. If a few thousand drug dealers were shot in the head that would fix the problem forever .

What do we want?
IRA controlled drug dealers!
When do we want em?
Now!

shenanagans · 04-02-2020 11:59PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Well the non party spinner in the spin room thinks nothing has changed, MLM still has the wind behind her.

The first analysis said Miriam nailed Mary Lou to the wall twice.....criminal court and Quinn. Another on panel said she doesn't want her three kids paying for SF uncosted policies.

Finty Lemon · 04-02-2020 11:59PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!

They called it for Enda Kenny too

FrancieBrady · 04-02-2020 11:59PM

I think Leo and Martin not replying on the Paul Quinn stuff was an admission that they are a beaten docket on this stuff.

It's pointless, nobody wins, least of all the exploited victim and their family, and everybody feels a bit dirty after it.

Hamsterchops · 05-02-2020 12:00AM

The UCD students thought Mary Lou was the best, RTE thought she was the best too....

I don't get it, am I missing something,
Why was she the winner?

FrancieBrady · 05-02-2020 12:00AM

shenanagans wrote: »

The first analysis said Miriam nailed Mary Lou to the wall twice.....criminal court and Quinn. Another on panel said she doesn't want her three kids paying for SF uncosted policies.

They were party faithful, the woman on her own in red was a neutral, political scientist.

Sir Oxman · 05-02-2020 12:01AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

RTE pundit giving the win and momentum to MaryLou.

Hamsterchops wrote: »

RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!

She didn't say MLM won the debate (that would be insane)
She said it woiuld change nothing and momentum was still with SF

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 12:01AM

boardise wrote: »

LOL.

Keen at the start ,continually jumped to the left , lost place at halfway under pressure 3 out , weakened final furlong.

They might try putting on a hood or a tongue strap next time out!

suicide_circus · 05-02-2020 12:01AM

Finty Lemon wrote: »

https://youtu.be/OJATctEBGAI

Wake up UCD students

jesus

FrancieBrady · 05-02-2020 12:02AM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

She didn't say MLM won the debate (that would be insane)
She said it woiuld change nothing and momentum was still with SF

She did say 'the debate was Mary Lou's'.

shenanagans · 05-02-2020 12:02AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The UCD students thought Mary Lou was the best, RTE thought she was the best too....

I don't get it, am I missing something,
Why was she the winner?

UCD student said Mary Lou was best.....but gave no explanation why?

easypazz · 05-02-2020 12:02AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They were party faithful, the woman on her own in red was a neutral, political scientist.

How neutral was she, the 2 mary lou clangers are potential momentum changers.

Itssoeasy · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think Leo and Martin not replying on the Paul Quinn stuff was an admission that they are a beaten docket on this stuff.

It's pointless, nobody wins, least of all the exploited victim and their family, and everybody feels a bit dirty after it.

ah come on why would they answer a question like that ? It was a Sinn Fein specific question juts like Leo varadkar and Michael Martin were asked specific questions about FF and FG Members who'd messed up. Was Mary Lou a "beaten docket" on that stuff then because she didn't reply ?

marieholmfan · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

realdanbreen wrote: »

They might try putting on a hood or a tongue strap next time out!

Did you have your hand in your trousers thinking about Mary Lou when you wrote that?

Charles Babbage · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

jos28 wrote: »

I think the strategy of allowing MLM to participate went exactly as MM and LV hoped it would. She was playing well out of her league. She can talk the talk (Trump/Farage style) but she can't walk the walk. Her populist, soundbite approach was exposed as shallow and one dimensional.
Excruciating to watch her squirm on the SCC and Paul Flynn questions, she didn't do herself any favours on climate change either.

Did nobody else note that she is promising a pension for everyone at 65 and this will be possible because she is going to increase the birthrate?

Sir Oxman · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

shenanagans wrote: »

The first analysis said Miriam nailed Mary Lou to the wall twice.....criminal court and Quinn. Another on panel said she doesn't want her three kids paying for SF uncosted policies.

All bar one were party hacks

theballz · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The UCD students thought Mary Lou was the best, RTE thought she was the best too....

I don't get it, am I missing something,
Why was she the winner?

As a student of UCD myself please take their opinion with a grain of salt.

If they had a paper cut out of Eamon Ryan on tonight’s debate they would probably claim he won.

shenanagans · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They were party faithful, the woman on her own in red was a neutral, political scientist.

First lady was a journalist. She wasn't on panel.

jos28 · 05-02-2020 12:03AM

Jizique wrote: »

It’s just like MM walked away 9 years ago and after the bail out and the cleanup, he is coming back for a second go at destroying the economy

TV3 need to show all 3 episodes of this tomorrow night just to remind the electorate.

The Rise and Fall of Fianna Fáil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCiVSnoCnY

General Election TV debates

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