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92nd Academy Awards (Oscars 2020)

  • 11-12-2019 11:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Fuck it. Get Ricky in.

    :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    With Parasite, the Academy has a rare opportunity this year to give at least some of the top awards to a critically acclaimed, commercially successful and extremely buzzy foreign language film - a move that would be near unprecedented and admirably forward-thinking (by Oscar standards).

    I am not hopeful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I reckon Green Book will do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Nominations are now out: BBC coverage is here.

    Joker leading the field with 11 nominations. This could be Scarlett Johansson's year, with nominations in both Leading and Supporting Actress categories.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I thought Adam Sandler would get in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Movie & Director look quite open this year, I'd go for Mendes & 1917 to win them.

    Acting awards all look like locks already
    Phoenix - Zellwegger - Pitt - Dern


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    So great to see wonderful films like Parasite, Little Women and Marriage Story make the Best Picture list, even if they’ll inevitability lose to some piece of **** like 1917.

    The disproportionate presence of the likes of JoJo Rabbit and 1917 over stuff like The Farewell, Uncut Gems or Knives Out just shows the Academy descending ever further into parody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,476 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Well done Saoirse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    So great to see wonderful films like Parasite, Little Women and Marriage Story make the Best Picture list, even if they’ll inevitability lose to some piece of **** like 1917.

    Not really sure about that.
    Marriage Story is one of Baumbachs worst films and Little Women is a remake.

    The standard of films getting nominated seems to be getting worse and worse every year,its the same old lazy type of films getting nods.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭MfMan


    So great to see wonderful films like Parasite, Little Women and Marriage Story make the Best Picture list, even if they’ll inevitability lose to some piece of **** like 1917.

    The disproportionate presence of the likes of JoJo Rabbit and 1917 over stuff like The Farewell, Uncut Gems or Knives Out just shows the Academy descending ever further into parody.

    I agree with you somewhat, err.. despite having seen very few on the list. Don't think Knives Out deserved a nom. though; while entertaining and clever, it's rather contrived and a bit over-farcical in parts.

    Thank God the insufferable Christian Bale wasn't nodded. The Actor lists are bad enough with the likes of Pacino, LDC, Pott and Hanks stuck in there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Abel Ruiz


    So great to see wonderful films like Parasite, Little Women and Marriage Story make the Best Picture list, even if they’ll inevitability lose to some piece of **** like 1917.

    The disproportionate presence of the likes of JoJo Rabbit and 1917 over stuff like The Farewell, Uncut Gems or Knives Out just shows the Academy descending ever further into parody.

    Trolling as usual.
    Nonsense!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I feel like Saoirse Ronan is destined to become another Amy Adams with regards to the Oscars. Both top actresses who the Academy loves but who somehow never manage to be in the buzziest film of the nominations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Pesci >>> Pitt


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    So great to see wonderful films like Parasite, Little Women and Marriage Story make the Best Picture list, even if they’ll inevitability lose to some piece of **** like 1917.
    Little women already won an Oscar, 1949 for art direction, Irishman Cedric Gibbons was one of the winners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'd like Joker to take best picture


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    No Sandler is a farce. Pure snobbery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Marriage Story is one of Baumbachs worst films and Little Women is a remake.

    Little Women is the seventh (afaik) film adaptation of a ~150 year old book. Don't think it really counts as a "remake", to be fair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    You think Marriage story has never been filmed before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Arghus wrote: »
    I reckon Green Book will do it again.

    wasn't a massive fan and it would not have been my choice, but the crying on twitter afterwards nearly justified it winning.

    Going to be a million "Oscars so white !" takes in the next few weeks which they could have nipped in the bud by nominating the director and or the 2 leads from the farewell,,,heck could have nominated an actor or two from Parasite but alas not to be.

    Its not the worst list tbf, I'd like Parasite to win best picture, but once upon a time in hollywood was fantastic although so if it wins, all good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    JLo must be raging missing out for Hustlers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    JLo must be raging missing out for Hustlers

    People are saying it’s a travesty. I haven’t seen Hustlers. Wuz she robbed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Some bizarre picks there.
    Joker for best film, best adapted screenplay plus costuming and makeup? Seriously?
    I'd give it best actor and that's about it.

    No costume nomination for Dolemite Is My Name is disappointing.

    I haven't seen Uncut Gems, but have read Sandler's performance is one of the best in a long time. Surprised to see him shut out. Possibly a bit of snobbery going on there? Same for Jennifer Lopez. Thought she was worth a nomination, but wouldn't be surprised if voters don't see the subject matter of the film or Lopez herself to be worthy enough.

    I'd love to know what movie all these people were watching when they looked at JoJo Rabbit? It was fine, but come on.

    Parasite the best of the lot, great to see it get a bit of recognition and would love to see it spring a surprise.

    Again though, would wonder how many of the voters have actually seen all the movies in question? Lots of great movies released over the last year or so, but the esteemed voters of the Academy don't seem to have watched very many of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭santana75


    Taron Egerton didnt get the nod........Elton wont be happy about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    PressRun wrote: »
    Some bizarre picks there.
    Joker for best film, best adapted screenplay plus costuming and makeup? Seriously?
    I'd give it best actor and that's about it.

    No costume nomination for Dolemite Is My Name is disappointing.

    I haven't seen Uncut Gems, but have read Sandler's performance is one of the best in a long time. Surprised to see him shut out. Possibly a bit of snobbery going on there? Same for Jennifer Lopez. Thought she was worth a nomination, but wouldn't be surprised if voters don't see the subject matter of the film or Lopez herself to be worthy enough.

    I'd love to know what movie all these people were watching when they looked at JoJo Rabbit? It was fine, but come on.

    Parasite the best of the lot, great to see it get a bit of recognition and would love to see it spring a surprise.

    Again though, would wonder how many of the voters have actually seen all the movies in question? Lots of great movies released over the last year or so, but the esteemed voters of the Academy don't seem to have watched very many of them.

    Joker to be fair was well liked by critics and audiences so for something as mainstream as the oscars, it doesn't seem out of place whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Joker to be fair was well liked by critics and audiences so for something as mainstream as the oscars, it doesn't seem out of place whatsoever.


    I wouldn't call it the best movie of the year though, even out of the mainstream movies. Certainly not the best written.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    PressRun wrote: »
    I wouldn't call it the best movie of the year though, even out of the mainstream movies. Certainly not the best written.

    That's fair enough, I am so-so with it been on the list,, but as someone who was uninspired by recent winners it doesn't really bother me that much.

    Its no worse than shape of water anyhow.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    That's fair enough, I am so-so with it been on the list,, but as someone who was uninspired by recent winners it doesn't really bother me that much.

    Its no worse than shape of water anyhow.:p


    Oh totally agree, wouldn't be losing any sleep over it!
    There have been plenty of worse and more forgettable winners over the years, for sure.

    I guess it's just weird because I feel like I've watched lots of great stuff this year and then you see these nominations and feel like it doesn't actually reflect a lot of the brilliant work out there.
    But that's the nature of the thing I suppose. Like you say, they're going for the mainstream and safe options most of the time. Don't remember the last time they had a best picture winner I actually agreed with.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,716 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    To be fair to the Academy, Green Book was such an all-timer of an awful Best Picture choice it’ll be a few years before they can top it :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    To be fair to the Academy, Green Book was such an all-timer of an awful Best Picture choice it’ll be a few years before they can top it :pac:
    You can only beat what's up against you. Rocky is great to watch but really shouldn't have won either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Joker to be fair was well liked by critics and audiences so for something as mainstream as the oscars, it doesn't seem out of place whatsoever.

    The critic reviews for Joker have been very mixed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    santana75 wrote: »
    Taron Egerton didnt get the nod........Elton wont be happy about that.

    I lasted about 15 mins into that film. Painful. When the stoic Da started singing, I knew that was it for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    The Elton John movie maybe suffered because of the success of Bohemian Rhapsody last year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Well done Saoirse!

    4th nomination, youngest ever to have that many nominations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    I feel like Saoirse Ronan is destined to become another Amy Adams with regards to the Oscars. Both top actresses who the Academy loves but who somehow never manage to be in the buzziest film of the nominations.

    She will eventually win for a combination of all her previous nominations/losses. Similar to what happened with DiCaprio.
    I don’t think she has been close to win in any of the 3 best actress nominations, but she was pretty close for supporting for Atonement. She is a wonderful actress.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,355 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    ricero wrote: »
    No Sandler is a farce. Pure snobbery.

    Looking forward to this film on Netflix in a couple of weeks. I didn’t really like their last film that had Robert Pattison in it, can’t remember the name. But this one looks much better, and Sandler is reported to be superb in it with non stop dialogue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Having seen Marriage Story, I thought Florence Pugh's performance was far better that Laura Dern in the Best Supporting Actress category.

    I can't imagine that there'll be any surprise wins in the Best actor/actress/film categories.
    Most likely it will be similar to the Golden Globes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    She will eventually win for a combination of all her previous nominations/losses. Similar to what happened with DiCaprio.
    I don’t think she has been close to win in any of the 3 best actress nominations, but she was pretty close for supporting for Atonement. She is a wonderful actress.

    In fairness, she's doing pretty well for a 25 year old. I think she'll have to wait a few years yet becasue of where she is in her career. She's very good, but she does get cast in roles that are enough for a nomination, but aren't showy enough for the actual Oscar. Aside from Atonement, there's a bit of a pattern to her nominated roles: young women who are sturdy and capable, but also have vulnerability. I'm not saying she isn't good, she is, but I reckon she might continue in that vein for a few more years, before she has to undergo some gruelling transformation on screen or plays someone with a recognisable tragic life story - and then she'll probably get the Oscar.

    I guess Gerwig getting the snub for Best Director is the big shock. I think she can feel aggrevied. I'd say she's strong strong favourite for Adapted Screenplay, even if that's a bit of lame compensation. I thought Chris Cooper had an outside chance for Supporting Actor, but he was never going to be nominated over all those heavyweights in that category.

    Thought there might have been a bit more love for Knives Out. Just the one nomination. It's been a big hit and critics loved it too.

    Uncut Gems recieves zero nominations and Ford vs Ferrari gets four? Ford vs fcking Ferrari? I mean it was grand and all, but, what?

    Anyway this is where it starts to get entertaining. Every year the momentum changes in the month before the awards. What's the favourite at the moment? I know Joker got the most nominations, but, I can't see them giving it Best Picture. I honestly think Little Women has a chance. The whole Gerwig being snubbed thing could gain it traction and I wouldn't be surprised if it does the film no harm gathering votes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Yeah, Saoirse is a very understated sort of actress, to be fair. She does nuance very well.
    Unfortunately the Oscars tend to prefer showy and over the top performances that require some sort of physical transformation along the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    People are saying it’s a travesty. I haven’t seen Hustlers. Wuz she robbed?

    It was a good performance from her and she was nominated in all other awards so she was a big snub


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Frozen II frozen out for best animated feature is a surprise


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Why is the media complaining about no female directors on the list. Did they expect Greta Gerwig to get nominated over Scorcese or Tarantino. Do they want a new Best Female Director category.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Ever since the Paddington 2 snub, I find it hard to care about awards any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Why is the media complaining about no female directors on the list. Did they expect Greta Gerwig to get nominated over Scorcese or Tarantino. Do they want a new Best Female Director category.


    I think I would have put her in instead of Todd Phillips.
    Phillips in the same category as Scorcese when Joker is quite derivative of Scorcese's work is a bit of a laugh though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    How many times has Little Women been made into a movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Why is the media complaining about no female directors on the list. Did they expect Greta Gerwig to get nominated over Scorcese or Tarantino. Do they want a new Best Female Director category.

    Because of political correctness gone mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    vriesmays wrote: »
    How many times has Little Women been made into a movie.

    I'd say around 5 including tv films


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Frozen II frozen out for best animated feature is a surprise

    Why? Its story was Disney straight-to-DVD sequel quality sh*te and the music was all forgettable rubbish. Even my fiance, who loves Frozen 1, hated it.

    I haven't seen "I lost my Body" yet (it's been added to my Netlfix queue), but out of the animation nominations I think Klaus deserves it the most. I just found it to be a surprisingly good movie with a really nice animations style and story. I would be happy too if Missing Link won, despite finding it to be Laika's weakest solo film, it's animation is still really gorgeous and I think Laika are long overdue an oscar.

    How to Train Your Dragon 3 was decent enough, I have no problems with it but didn't find it to be anything special and Toy Story 4 had some nice bits but really felt like a 40 minute special dragged out into a full movie (most of the recurring characters completely side tracked, I didn't find the antagonist resolution to be very satisfying etc.).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Why is the media complaining about no female directors on the list. Did they expect Greta Gerwig to get nominated over Scorcese or Tarantino. Do they want a new Best Female Director category.

    Don't know what "THE MEDIA" (booo hiisss) is complaining about, but I would like to have seen Gerwig in place of either Todd Philips or Martin Scorese. I've not seen Parasite or 1917 yet.

    Nothing to do with gender, I just thought Little Women was masterfully orchestrated from start to finish – whereas Joker and The Irishman, while decent, just weren't as finely tuned.
    vriesmays wrote: »
    How many times has Little Women been made into a movie.

    Seven times. Plus stage productions, radio plays, and television adaptations. Not sure any of that counts against it; it's not up for Best Original Screenplay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Niska


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Frozen II frozen out for best animated feature is a surprise

    It was only okay, though I do really like "Into the Unknown".

    On merit, it's exclusion isn't surprising - but it being a big Disney animation, you'd expect it to be nominated no matter how good or bad it is.

    There was a rule change this year for Animated nominations:
    In the Animated Feature category, the theatrical release of eight eligible animated features in the calendar year is no longer required for the awards category to be activated. In addition, nominations voting will be automatically open to all active members of the Short Films and Feature Animation Branch. Other active voting members of the Academy must opt-in to participate in the nominations round.

    https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-announces-rules-92nd-oscars

    Unfortunately, I can't find what the previous rule is, but from the bolded section, I'd infer that previously all members could nominate vote for Best Animated Feature, which would probably weighted previous nominations heavily in Disney and Pixar's favour (possibly Dreamworks) - as they'd be the most seen animated films.


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