Who is everyone going to be voting for in the next general election?

JohnnyFlash · 10-12-2019 11:16pm #1

I’ll be voting FG one and two, Labour 3, and will leave it at that.

Quantum Erasure · 10-12-2019 11:19pm

some combination of FF, FG, and SF, not sure who'll get the number 1, prob FF

10-12-2019 11:20pm

No idea of the full list of candidates so couldn’t say yet.

Wibbs · 10-12-2019 11:20pm

TBH I have genuinely no idea J,

10-12-2019 11:22pm

Not one of them. My area is sown up anyway.

10-12-2019 11:23pm

SD1, GP2, SF3, FF and FG below the nutjob christians and alphabet parties

Atlantic Dawn · 10-12-2019 11:25pm

None of the above, lol.

is_that_so · 10-12-2019 11:25pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

No idea of the full list of candidates so couldn’t say yet.

It may not be complete yet but this should give you a pretty decent idea. Just search for your constituency.

https://adriankavanaghelections.org/2017/04/19/candidates-for-the-next-2017-2021-general-election-by-constituency/

10-12-2019 11:25pm

David Cullinane.

Inquitus · 10-12-2019 11:45pm

FG #1
SF / Greens #2
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furiousox · 10-12-2019 11:50pm

I don't want anything to do with their self-serving gravy train so I won't be voting for any of them this time.

Liberta Per Gli Ultra · 10-12-2019 11:50pm

Grimby. I love Grimby.

godtabh · 10-12-2019 11:52pm

furiousox wrote: »

I don't want anything to do with their self-serving gravy train so I won't be voting for any of them this time.

But some one else will and probably some with opposing views to you. Use your vote and make it count.

TheValeyard · 10-12-2019 11:54pm

Yeah I'm currently very unimpressed with the current state of political parties. I've no idea who to vote for. Usually I've a good idea by this stage. Might vote independent.

Moghead · 10-12-2019 11:56pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

David Cullinane.

The only sitting TD in Waterford worth a damn.

I'm voting 1:GP, 2:SF, 3:LAB. May give 4 to FG as I don't want to see a FF government and they have an awful candidate in my constituency.

Better Than Christ · 10-12-2019 11:59pm

If I'm living in a constituency with a Workers' Party candidate, I'll probably give them my first preference. It's the only party that has consistently impressed me over the last few years.

Junkyard Tom · 10-12-2019 11:59pm

We have no pro-EU federalisation, pro-EU defence, anti Irish 'neutrality', anti NATO, counter-cyclical economic policy, Irish Nationalist, pro United Ireland party.

furiousox · 11-12-2019 12:00am

godtabh wrote: »

But some one else will and probably some with opposing views to you. Use your vote and make it count.

I know the right to vote is important and a lot of people had to fight for that privelige, but honestly, I'm so disillusioned with the Irish political system right now I feel what's the point?
What difference will it make?
They're all the same.

The health system has been broken for years no matter who's in power.
Property tax.
TD expenses, pensions.
Spending how much on a printer?
Clocking in when not present.
Dail voting when not present.
No-one ever resigns or is held to account.
I honestly think it's a game for them and they're in it for themselves not us.

Bishop of hope · 11-12-2019 12:02am

I could lie, like most others who adorn these threads with anti everything and it's always FGs fault or FFs and that SF, SDs PBPs and indos will be the answer to all our problems, anything has to be better than what we have.
But I won't, I'll vote for FG.
They're probably the best of a bad lot, but I hope we end up with a decent majority Govt no matter who it is, this current Dail is the most ineffectual piece of garbage in my lifetime memory.

Steve · 11-12-2019 12:09am

If count binface was running here he'd get my vote.

All FG did, as predicted, was tax anything that moved, and are still doing so. FF have no spine. Greens got some power recently and, guess what?, more taxes..

Bankergate.
Applegate.
Watergate.
Hospitalgate.
Printergate.
Swinggate.
Sewagegate.
Beefgate.

How anyone with conscience can ever vote for them again is beyond me.

Silentcorner · 11-12-2019 12:14am

I'm completely disillusioned with our political system, I've no idea who to vote for....beneath the veneer of a normal functioning country lies a completely dysfunctional, regressive and rotten system...that pays lip service to the day to day spending of taxpayers hard earned money and the sacrifices ordinary working people have to make each and every day!

I'd be as liberal as a conservative can be I feel completely disenfranchised...I'd normally be a loyal voter of a centrist party with savy economic policies....I have nothing but disdain for media so I avoid as much news content as I can therefore I can't be influenced by the plummeting standards we are witnessing these days!

I feel we have swung from a very patronising pious catholic state to an equally patrionising pious "liberal" version...the liberal policies always end up costing the taxpayer more which will cause problems in a society who's future economic growth is not something the state can bank on!!

barney shamrock · 11-12-2019 12:19am

United People.
Greater transparency from better elected!

Strumms · 11-12-2019 12:23am

:P

Steve wrote: »

If count binface was running here he'd get my vote.

All FG did, as predicted, was tax anything that moved, and are still doing so. FF have no spine. Greens got some power recently and, guess what?, more taxes..

Bankergate.
Applegate.
Watergate.
Hospitalgate.
Printergate.
Swinggate.
Sewagegate.
Beefgate.

How anyone with conscience can ever vote for them again is beyond me.

You’d have to really be bonkers to touch FG... FF a lot of talent in the party just Martin seems like a savvy politician if you can get past the ‘personality’.... Leo while an outgoing fellow you certainly know that trustworthy and having the public interest as #1 won’t be his motivation for anything.

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-12-2019 12:24am

Ill wait until the last few days to see how the polls are to know whether to go FG top, FF there after, or the other way around. Either is OK fundamentally and are the only sensible option for any voter these days. Greens and Labour next, as it puts the retired terrorists further down the list, and the effective spoiled votes that are votes for independents only a step above them.
I commend this strategy to all on the voting register.

11-12-2019 12:25am

I'd normally be a FG person, and much as people hate me for saying it, I liked Enda's run for the most part. However, they have demonstrated that they're unable to do the job of late so I think it's time they were shown the door.

That said, I'm sure they'll still get a good vote count as people just stick with what they know by and large.

I have no interest whatsoever in the Green Party as they're merely a tax party (at least they're honest about it though, I suppose) so I might just vote random independents or non FG-FF-SF people in as a protest vote of sorts.

Snow Garden · 11-12-2019 12:34am

I don't know. Not FF, FG or SF.

I guess a mix of Independents, Greens and SDs.

Thelonious Monk · 11-12-2019 12:35am

Anyone but FF or FG, can we all please try something different

ChikiChiki · 11-12-2019 12:35am

Bishop of hope wrote: »

I could lie, like most others who adorn these threads with anti everything and it's always FGs fault or FFs and that SF, SDs PBPs and indos will be the answer to all our problems, anything has to be better than what we have.
But I won't, I'll vote for FG.
They're probably the best of a bad lot, but I hope we end up with a decent majority Govt no matter who it is, this current Dail is the most ineffectual piece of garbage in my lifetime memory.

Im a believer we need to see one drastic change to get the country right. People need to be confident that we can do it. FF and FG have proved time and time again toxic for the country. It's a pity most people have such a fear of real change.

JohnnyFlash · 11-12-2019 12:40am

No offence to the posters so far, but there’s a noticeable lack of stepping up to the plate and saying who you’d vote for.

Don’t see the Dissatisfaction and Disillusioned party talking about running candidates.

Steve · 11-12-2019 12:45am

What irks me the most about FG is the housing crisis. A typical rental in Dublin is now €2000 / month. To pay that the tenant has to earn ~ €4000, the 'landlord' then pays €1000 in tax / prsi /USC.
So to stay in their home, the property owner gets €1000 and the tax man gets €3000. How is this fair?
Same with child care only there is VAT on top.

This is the FG way.

freshpopcorn · 11-12-2019 12:47am

In the past I'd have ruled out PBP/AAA and now I'd include the Greens into the list!

11-12-2019 12:48am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

No offence to the posters so far, but there’s a noticeable lack of stepping up to the plate and saying who you’d vote for.

Don’t see the Dissatisfaction and Disillusioned party talking about running candidates.

The problem you have is - who do you vote for?

When Leo first took office he made his speech about the working man who gets up early in the morning and how FG will back the workers and yada yada. People got excited and felt they made the right choice. Yet little to nothing has been done to benefit those 'getting up early'.

At the moment no party seems interested in that. They're all practically clones of each other, except SF who still pray to the Magic Money Tree to help them get by.

RMAOK · 11-12-2019 12:50am

I'll probably vote independent

Steve · 11-12-2019 12:54am

RMAOK wrote: »

I'll probably vote independent

I did that last time and Ross got in. I am truly sorry for that.

ChikiChiki · 11-12-2019 12:55am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

No offence to the posters so far, but there’s a noticeable lack of stepping up to the plate and saying who you’d vote for.

Don’t see the Dissatisfaction and Disillusioned party talking about running candidates.

Social Democrats, not a great fan as they seem quite fractured policy wise but FG and FF are asleep at the wheel for far too long now.

Plumbthedepths · 11-12-2019 12:57am

Independent same as last time.

Jamie2k9 · 11-12-2019 12:59am

Moghead wrote: »

The only sitting TD in Waterford worth a damn.

I'm voting 1:GP, 2:SF, 3:LAB. May give 4 to FG as I don't want to see a FF government and they have an awful candidate in my constituency.

What has he achieved for Waterford?

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-12-2019 12:59am

RMAOK wrote: »

I'll probably vote independent

Voting independent is harmful to the formation of successful government and so is even worse than a spoiled vote.
Voting independent is just a form of anti-party tantrum that is cutting off ones nose to spite ones face. It does more harm than good, other than venting a little irrational frustration with whatever parties are in government.

Idbatterim · 11-12-2019 1:01am

Agree with the above. The last thing we need is more hurler on the ditches, parish pump at its finest!

Pity I can’t vote for the uk conservatives. Maybe we could rejoin Great Britain!

realitykeeper · 11-12-2019 1:02am

I would be pro life so that would exclude almost every candidate. If there are any pro life candidates running in my constituency, I would require them to be conservative, strong on environmental issues and very very right wing on the economy. The chances of there being any such candidate are zilch (unless I run myself which I won`t) so therefore it is fare to assume I shall not be voting ever again.

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-12-2019 1:04am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

What has he achieved for Waterford?

Represent the people of Waterford one would hope.
They have better options there though.
SF just pulled a clever marketing trick, being a party looking for a reason to exist, jumped onto the leftish ground taking advantage of the anti-labour pendulum being at its low point.Voting labour is fundamentally more conscionable if a desire to vote ever so slightly left is desired, but without the overhanging miasma of terrorism.

Idbatterim · 11-12-2019 1:05am

realitykeeper wrote: »

I would be pro life so that would exclude almost every candidate. If there are any pro life candidates running in my constituency, I would require them to be strong on environmental issues and very very right wing on the economy. The chances of there being any such candidate are zilch (unless I run myself which I won`t) so therefore it is fare to assume I shall not be voting ever again.

Renua might run a candidate in your constituency! Pity the abortion issue scuppered them. Their candidate will have my first preference, Mickey Mouse will be getting my second preference

Liberta Per Gli Ultra · 11-12-2019 1:14am

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Voting independent is harmful to the formation of successful government and so is even worse than a spoiled vote.
Voting independent is just a form of anti-party tantrum that is cutting off ones nose to spite ones face. It does more harm than good, other than venting a little irrational frustration with whatever parties are in government.

That's a load of ignorant, contradictory bullsh1t.

realitykeeper · 11-12-2019 1:16am

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Voting independent is harmful to the formation of successful government and so is even worse than a spoiled vote.
Voting independent is just a form of anti-party tantrum that is cutting off ones nose to spite ones face. It does more harm than good, other than venting a little irrational frustration with whatever parties are in government.

You really think frustration with the government is irrational? I do not find them to be at all conservative or right wing or suitable to deal with environmental matters. None of the independents tick all boxes for me. I think most people who do vote for independents do so in the hope they will be called upon to support a government with a tight majority and they will be in a position to make demands for the constituency. I don`t agree with national politicians bribing locals anyway.

JohnnyFlash · 11-12-2019 1:16am

Steve wrote: »

What irks me the most about FG is the housing crisis. A typical rental in Dublin is now €2000 / month. To pay that the tenant has to earn ~ €4000, the 'landlord' then pays €1000 in tax / prsi /USC.
So to stay in their home, the property owner gets €1000 and the tax man gets €3000. How is this fair?
Same with child care only there is VAT on top.

This is the FG way.

That's a very legitimate argument, and well made. Might get the standard of the place up a few notches yet.

We live in a country where parties have realised that indirect taxation is more palatable than direct taxation. And that the electorate want all the trappings of a social democracy, while wanting to pay as little tax as possible. That bit in the middle is democracy and Government.

So it's extremely easy for parties to make massive promises that deliver all the social democracy, while not taxing you 70% on the euro. They don't need to implement these things though. Talk is cheap.

realitykeeper · 11-12-2019 1:27am

Idbatterim wrote: »

Renua might run a candidate in your constituency! Pity the abortion issue scuppered them. Their candidate will have my first preference, Mickey Mouse will be getting my second preference

Compromise on policy is a kind of subversion. What is the point in your candidate being elected if they change their policies from what is right to something else. At least in defeat, they can always say told you so when those with bad policies get elected by people who don`t know any better. The unenlightened will suffer the consequences until such time as they see sense.

11-12-2019 2:36am

Steve wrote: »

What irks me the most about FG is the housing crisis. A typical rental in Dublin is now €2000 / month. To pay that the tenant has to earn ~ €4000, the 'landlord' then pays €1000 in tax / prsi /USC.
So to stay in their home, the property owner gets €1000 and the tax man gets €3000. How is this fair?
Same with child care only there is VAT on top.

This is the FG way.

the property owner gets €1000 and the tax man gets €3000.

Should that not be €1,000 each?

The tax man will get a percentage of the 4k per month the tenant earns through income tax, etc. but they won't get more than 1k from the landlord, meaning directly from the house both the landlord and revenue get the same amount (€1k each, as opposed to 1k vs 3k)

Rubberchikken · 11-12-2019 2:56am

i wont be voting. ever again. its a complete and utter waste of time and energy.

all politicians are a waste of space. none of them have an original thought. none if them truly want to stand up and be counted. they are all in it to line their own pockets, look after their own interests and reap whatever benefits they can, honestly or otherwise.

bitter...much? you bet:(

katiek102010 · 11-12-2019 2:57am

Honestly I don't have a clue.

I would usually vote tactically, but, there are no decent candidates at all in my area.

FG are the greatest shower of incompetent idiots that I have ever seen. In all fairness the local playschool would do a better job. Vradaker is nothing more than a poster boy to show how progressive Ireland has become, having a gay Indian man at the helm. He hasn't a frigging clue what to do.

I would rather chew my own arm off than vote for FF.

The cynical part of me thinks FG are currently leaking their feic ups to not get back in power as they can see a massive crash coming.

FF abstained from the no conference vote as they 100% believe in their smug little heads that they will be running the place next year and can blame the muppet for the next few years.

The thought of SF having all the power scares the life out of me.

I tried the i side with quizz online and the highest scores I got for anyone is in the 40's.

Tbh they are all ****e, we need some new blood

scudzilla · 11-12-2019 3:14am

I'll be going Social Democrats (Ronan Moore) 1, Aontu (Padar Tobin) 2.

Voting for the person not the party, There's another guy who does a LOT for our community but he's FG and even though he's great i couldn't vote for that shower of c***ts

Tom Mann Centuria · 11-12-2019 3:30am

Socialist (whatever name they have at the time) 1, Labour 2, Soc Dem (if they're standing locally) 3, Green 4, SF 5.

Who is everyone going to be voting for in the next general election?

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