Marian Finucane Thread

mgn · 24-11-2019 5:59pm

isohon wrote: »

The Taoiseach continues to endorse her, she hasn't been removed or unendorsed.

The only clowns are the fools saying 'ISIS is a big part of immigration' and that they might have gotten to 3 and 4 year olds...

FFS

So what your saying is Leo is endorsing a clown.

isohon · 24-11-2019 6:10pm

mgn wrote: »

As a matter of fact i would like to hear the accent of county the person is from, regardless of what county it is.

1. You yourself identified an accent from a county and then bemoaned it.

2. You seem to think there is an acceptable accent from each county? Is there only one? I am sure the people of West Cork will be delighted to know they have to talk with the City accent from now on.

3. What about folk who have moved around since birth due to their parents work? My dad is/was a farm relief worker. I've lived in four counties, and in multiple places therein? How do you think I should speak?

4. What about Irish lads who have a parent who lived abroad? Are we supposed to attend elocution lessons to meet your approval?

isohon · 24-11-2019 6:10pm

mgn wrote: »

So what your saying is Leo is endorsing a clown.

Yes. 100% she is a clown.

elperello · 24-11-2019 6:18pm

isohon wrote: »

1. You yourself identified an accent from a county and then bemoaned it.

2. You seem to think there is an acceptable accent from each county? Is there only one? I am sure the people of West Cork will be delighted to know they have to talk with the City accent from now on.

3. What about folk who have moved around since birth due to their parents work? My dad is/was a farm relief worker. I've lived in four counties, and in multiple places therein? How do you think I should speak?

4. What about Irish lads who have a parent who lived abroad? Are we supposed to attend elocution lessons to meet your approval?

I've noticed that Irish people can be funny about accents.

Someone comes from abroad and starts to speak with a bit of an Irish twang to their accent and they say "great fella altogether".

One of our own goes away and comes back with a bit of London or NYC in their accent and it's "who does he think he is?".

For myself I tend to focus more on what people are saying rather than the way they say it.

mgn · 24-11-2019 6:20pm

isohon wrote: »

1. You yourself identified an accent from a county and then bemoaned it.

2. You seem to think there is an acceptable accent from each county? Is there only one? I am sure the people of West Cork will be delighted to know they have to talk with the City accent from now on.

3. What about folk who have moved around since birth due to their parents work? My dad is/was a farm relief worker. I've lived in four counties, and in multiple places therein? How do you think I should speak?

4. What about Irish lads who have a parent who lived abroad? Are we supposed to attend elocution lessons to meet your approval?

What's your problem, all i said was i have problem with people that have fake accents.

mgn · 24-11-2019 6:22pm

isohon wrote: »

Yes. 100% she is a clown.

So a clown endorsing a clown, that sound about right.

Conor84 · 30-11-2019 1:08pm

Just listened to John Downing as political analyst on the show dealing with the Elections taking place and thought he was incredibly poor and wonder how he got the gig?

Whatever about the analysis (questionable) his delivery was poor and he seemed to be mumbling along. After having an hour to update his notes or whatever he didn't have any figures for Fingal and quoted others from memory. He made a few mistakes like calling Dublin Mid West - Dublin North Central and calling the former FG TD James O'Reilly. Just stupid mistakes from a political "expert".

On days like today us political anoraks would miss the likes of Noel Whelan who would be so sharp in this role.

Ready4Boarding · 30-11-2019 1:25pm

Conor84 wrote: »

Just listened to John Downing as political analyst on the show dealing with the Elections taking place and thought he was incredibly poor and wonder how he got the gig?

Whatever about the analysis (questionable) his delivery was poor and he seemed to be mumbling along. After having an hour to update his notes or whatever he didn't have any figures for Fingal and quoted others from memory. He made a few mistakes like calling Dublin Mid West - Dublin North Central and calling the former FG TD James O'Reilly. Just stupid mistakes from a political "expert".

On days like today us political anoraks would miss the likes of Noel Whelan who would be so sharp in this role.

Whelan's delivery was hardly much better.

Commentators in this country report on politics like it's sport. And if you look on the weekend at the twitter feeds of the likes of Gavan Reilly and Harry Magee, it's striking how many are big sports fans. We don't really give exposure to anorak analysts like you might see elsewhere.

Oops69 · 30-11-2019 2:09pm

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

Whelan's delivery was hardly much better.

Commentators in this country report on politics like it's sport. And if you look on the weekend at the twitter feeds of the likes of Gavan Reilly and Harry Magee, it's striking how many are big sports fans. We don't really give exposure to anorak analysts like you might see elsewhere.

yes , that type of analysis died out with Brian Farrell .

generalgerry · 01-12-2019 8:23am

I was just thinking about that ninety year old woman who was waiting on a trolley in the hospital during the week, I think I heard it covered on the show yesterday. You would wonder why you paid taxes all you life to sit on a trolley, while the Government wastes money on bending over backwards to repatriate terrorists.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/1201/1096265-smith-isis-home-turkey/

generalgerry · 01-12-2019 11:02am

And RTE paid for Dmitri O'Donnell to take the same flight!!!

Oops69 · 01-12-2019 11:21am

all this palaver about her being an 'irish citizen ' and has certain rights etc. etc , to all intents and purposes she denounced her irish citizenship to join this 'caliphate ' , if the caliphate had passports I'm sure she would have had one.

generalgerry · 01-12-2019 11:25am

I'm about to put the radio through the window, so I'm going to just leave. Blood boiling at this.

mgn · 01-12-2019 11:28am

One of the clowns said he was glad that smith was back, what planets do these people live on.

elperello · 01-12-2019 11:28am

generalgerry wrote: »

I'm about to put the radio through the window, so I'm going to just leave. Blood boiling at this.

That's ironic seeing as this is the radio forum.
We are supposed to listen to the radio and post comments.

mgn · 01-12-2019 11:39am

Switched over to Newstalk with Gavin Reilly, Verona Murphy bashing on there, is there any station nowadays where there is a balanced debate anymore.

Beechwoodspark · 01-12-2019 11:43am

Marian’s dinner party in full swing

She is in full scutter talk mode this morn

yosser hughes · 01-12-2019 12:05pm

mgn wrote: »

One of the clowns said he was glad that smith was back, what planets do these people live on.

That was Harry McGee

elperello · 01-12-2019 12:10pm

yosser hughes wrote: »

That was Harry McGee

A respected and experienced journalist.
But sure what would he know?

cozar · 01-12-2019 12:14pm

Conor84 wrote: »

Just listened to John Downing as political analyst on the show dealing with the Elections taking place and thought he was incredibly poor and wonder how he got the gig?

Whatever about the analysis (questionable) his delivery was poor and he seemed to be mumbling along. After having an hour to update his notes or whatever he didn't have any figures for Fingal and quoted others from memory. He made a few mistakes like calling Dublin Mid West - Dublin North Central and calling the former FG TD James O'Reilly. Just stupid mistakes from a political "expert".

On days like today us political anoraks would miss the likes of Noel Whelan who would be so sharp in this role.

thought exactly the same hard to listen to him. Marian wasnt too far behind him either.

yosser hughes · 01-12-2019 12:17pm

elperello wrote: »

A respected and experienced journalist.
But sure what would he know?

He's just a journalist. Not sure how respected he is. Saying he's 'glad' she's home is just a trite opinion.
I would prefer to hear from someone with expertise of the legalities and obligations the Irish state has to this woman.

elperello · 01-12-2019 12:27pm

yosser hughes wrote: »

He's just a journalist. Not sure how respected he is. Saying he's 'glad' she's home is just a trite opinion.
I would prefer to hear from someone with expertise of the legalities and obligations the Irish state has to this woman.

You know he's a long time on the road reporting on all sorts of issues for many years.

To dismiss his opinion as that of a clown as the other poster did is the real trite opinion.

It would be interesting to hear a legal opinion but HM wasn't purporting to offer that.

Beechwoodspark · 01-12-2019 12:28pm

Harry McGee would be a fairly average Irish Times journo. Nothing more nothing less. Don’t get where this respected and experienced line is coming from

mgn · 01-12-2019 12:31pm

elperello wrote: »

A respected and experienced journalist.
But sure what would he know?

Respected by who, outside some of the Times readers.
The likes of him never has an opinion, and goes along with whatever populist rubbish is going on at the time.

yosser hughes · 01-12-2019 12:36pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Harry McGee would be a fairly average Irish Times journo. Nothing more nothing less. Don’t get where this respected and experienced line is coming from

There are still too many people in this country that put journalists on a pedestal. Still treat them with a certain reverence. Hence we have them on panels like Marian's; all agreeing which other.

elperello · 01-12-2019 12:47pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Harry McGee would be a fairly average Irish Times journo. Nothing more nothing less. Don’t get where this respected and experienced line is coming from

He is undoubtedly experienced having worked in journalism for more than 25 years. He has been Political Correspondent for two leading papers, the IT and the Examiner.

His contributions to radio and TV programmes are always worth listening to.

I respect his work and fail to see how anyone could dismiss him as a clown.

ShamNNspace · 01-12-2019 12:47pm

yosser hughes wrote: »

There are still too many people in this country that put journalists on a pedestal. Still treat them with a certain reverence. Hence we have them on panels like Marian's; all agreeing which other.

Or what passes for journalists and journalism in this country

elperello · 01-12-2019 1:06pm

mgn wrote: »

Respected by who, outside some of the Times readers.
The likes of him never has an opinion, and goes along with whatever populist rubbish is going on at the time.

You called him a clown so I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

mgn · 01-12-2019 1:22pm

elperello wrote: »

You called him a clown so I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

Not bothered about what you think of my opinion, but i would be interested in your role in RTE.

elperello · 01-12-2019 1:26pm

mgn wrote: »

Not bothered about what you think of my opinion, but i would be interested in your role in RTE.

If you are standing over calling HM a clown and that smart remark about RTE is all you have to offer I think we are done for now.

mgn · 01-12-2019 1:37pm

elperello wrote: »

If you are standing over calling HM a clown and that smart remark about RTE is all you have to offer I think we are done for now.

Fine by me, and yes i do stand by my remark, and you keep on defending the MF show.

Brendan Bendar · 01-12-2019 3:01pm

Just an aside on this mornings show, a lot of what some might refer to as ‘gobby mares’. seemed to be on.

Tuned in in midstream so didn’t get the names but one in particular seemed determined to hog the mic at all costs.Dukes got no chance at at all to make his usual long winded pedantic preaching style of deliveries, so there was a silver lining I guess.

I thought Agnew was gone from the Indo, by the way?

Del.Monte · 01-12-2019 5:50pm

Has there been a DNA test carried out on the child to ascertain that it is actually her offspring? Just asking.

generalgerry · 01-12-2019 7:52pm

mgn wrote: »

Switched over to Newstalk with Gavin Reilly, Verona Murphy bashing on there, is there any station nowadays where there is a balanced debate anymore.

This is the thing that really confuses me about the media coverage today. Dukes rails against Verona Murphy, but has only banal platitudes when asked about Lisa Smith. If you listened to the coverage in the media this week you would think that it was Verona Murphy that had joined a band of neanderthal murderers. I was infuriated by Harry McGee's remark also.

I've said this many times but the real problem is that RTE only have people from particular classes and professions, and these groups are hamstrung by having to not upset any of their peers and please their masters. I would have been interested to hear Verona Murphy's opinion on Lisa Smith, I'd say that would have caused the rattling of a few cups at Marian's cozy coffee morning.

jay0109 · 01-12-2019 9:07pm

I had a few long car journeys this past week so caught up on some politics podcasts from The Stand (Eamon Dunphy) and Inside Politics (Irish Times.
The Inside Politics episode from Friday featured Sam McBride discussing his book on the cash for ash scandal up North. McGee was on as well.
The chat veered off to talk of a United Ireland and issues around that being brought up a lot lately. McGee came out with some nuggets which really showed his true colours and that of his paper....rejoin the Commonwealth, fly the Union Flag, no countenance of a United Ireland on the current 50 +1 rule should be entertained, etc.

He really doesn't have a lot about him bar being able to talk a lot and with a 'good' accent

mgn · 01-12-2019 10:00pm

generalgerry wrote: »

This is the thing that really confuses me about the media coverage today. Dukes rails against Verona Murphy, but has only banal platitudes when asked about Lisa Smith. If you listened to the coverage in the media this week you would think that it was Verona Murphy that had joined a band of neanderthal murderers. I was infuriated by Harry McGee's remark also.

I've said this many times but the real problem is that RTE only have people from particular classes and professions, and these groups are hamstrung by having to not upset any of their peers and please their masters. I would have been interested to hear Verona Murphy's opinion on Lisa Smith, I'd say that would have caused the rattling of a few cups at Marian's cozy coffee morning.

Every politician that was interviewed this week was asked what the thought about Verona Murphys comments, and the all came out with racist angle to it.
Not one of them were asked about the war hero Smith, and her glorious return from war.
Fine Gael must be going to have Smith run in Dundalk in the next general election for them.

sligojoek · 01-12-2019 10:08pm

Was it a guardian angel?

isohon · 05-12-2019 6:11pm

mgn wrote: »

Switched over to Newstalk with Gavin Reilly, Verona Murphy bashing on there, is there any station nowadays where there is a balanced debate anymore.

Verona Murphy is a dolt. You seem to think that 'balance' requires someone on air to disagree with what is obvious fact. It doesn't.

One would have hoped that being able to 'turn the dial' and listen to a whole other set of people recount the myriad ways she turned out to be an electoral dud would be enough. Apparently not. What exactly are you looking for?

People to come on and say 'Verona Murphy may have a point that 'ISIS is a big part of migration'

...or...

'we need to deprogram people'

...or...

'ISIS may have corrupted some 3 and 4 year olds'?

All of these in the context of a by-election in Wexford...

It's mortifying.

isohon · 05-12-2019 6:14pm

mgn wrote: »

Every politician that was interviewed this week was asked what the thought about Verona Murphys comments, and the all came out with racist angle to it.
Not one of them were asked about the war hero Smith, and her glorious return from war.
Fine Gael must be going to have Smith run in Dundalk in the next general election for them.

A. FG literally specially selected VM, and boosted her above local party activists for the position. She was their premiere candidate in this multi-by-election contest. More than James Reilly, more than anyone.

B. When VM made her myriad brain dead nonsense comments, FG and the Taoiseach himself continued to support her and even campaigned locally with her.,

C. Explain exactly what you mean by suggesting that FG want Lisa Smith to run for them. Just even one line would be acceptable.

mgn · 05-12-2019 7:29pm

isohon wrote: »

A. FG literally specially selected VM, and boosted her above local party activists for the position. She was their premiere candidate in this multi-by-election contest. More than James Reilly, more than anyone.

B. When VM made her myriad brain dead nonsense comments, FG and the Taoiseach himself continued to support her and even campaigned locally with her.,

C. Explain exactly what you mean by suggesting that FG want Lisa Smith to run for them. Just even one line would be acceptable.

Grow up.

mgn · 05-12-2019 7:43pm

isohon wrote: »

Verona Murphy is a dolt. You seem to think that 'balance' requires someone on air to disagree with what is obvious fact. It doesn't.

One would have hoped that being able to 'turn the dial' and listen to a whole other set of people recount the myriad ways she turned out to be an electoral dud would be enough. Apparently not. What exactly are you looking for?

People to come on and say 'Verona Murphy may have a point that 'ISIS is a big part of migration'

...or...

'we need to deprogram people'

...or...

'ISIS may have corrupted some 3 and 4 year olds'?

All of these in the context of a by-election in Wexford...

It's mortifying.

Verona Murphy would have won a seat only that she backtracked on what she said, FG silenced her and would not let her near the media or do any more interviews, the treated her like a fool and she went along with it, that's why people didn't vote for her.

Callan57 · 07-12-2019 12:07pm

Oh Dear God would someone give Marian a tissue & get her to give her nose a good blow ... it's like listening to a blocked drain this morning.

elperello · 07-12-2019 2:33pm

Callan57 wrote: »

Oh Dear God would someone give Marian a tissue & get her to give her nose a good blow ... it's like listening to a blocked drain this morning.

TMI

humberklog · 07-12-2019 5:31pm

I noticed her defence of The Delaney Football Family has softened (as has Eamos). I suppose her ignorant position on the subject is now neither popular nor profitable. A bit like the FAI.

blinding · 07-12-2019 10:07pm

humberklog wrote: »

I noticed her defence of The Delaney Football Family has softened (as has Eamos). I suppose her ignorant position on the subject is now neither popular nor profitable. A bit like the FAI.

Marian jumps ship when the straws in the wind all go one way .

sligojoek · 08-12-2019 11:06am

"The FII. Eeeh the FAI"

newcavanman · 08-12-2019 12:32pm

Herself and her panel are having a field day, praising Jeremy Corbyn and slagging off Boris . I cant wait for next weeks show, they will be having a meltdown if Boris does as well as expected

elperello · 08-12-2019 12:38pm

I'd have more serious concern if a panel on Irish radio was in favour of the Tories.

blinding · 08-12-2019 1:23pm

newcavanman wrote: »

Herself and her panel are having a field day, praising Jeremy Corbyn and slagging off Boris . I cant wait for next weeks show, they will be having a meltdown if Boris does as well as expected

And the funny thing is , in their private finances they couldn’t be More Tory .:eek:

humberklog · 08-12-2019 2:48pm

newcavanman wrote: »

Herself and her panel are having a field day, praising Jeremy Corbyn and slagging off Boris . I cant wait for next weeks show, they will be having a meltdown if Boris does as well as expected

The part i heard at the beginning I thought Marian was saying that the British press were all generally resigned to the idea that the Tories were going to walk it and on the whole the panel accepted that. They might not like it but i didnt hear any guest going against that prediction.

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