Cyclists

kenmm · 14-10-2019 6:21pm

raclle wrote: »

Has anyone not driven on these twisty narrow main roads in the south? You'll know then what i'm talking about. There's no room for overtaking unless there's a clear stretch of road so you could be sitting behind someone for ages whether single or abreast.

Its true - I guess if you give us a shout when you want to go somewhere, then everyone can get off the roads you want to use and you wont need to overtake anyone?

AndrewJRenko · 14-10-2019 6:58pm

Deleted User wrote: »

When someone hit's him some day then he'll wish he had been using the cycle lane.

When someone rapes her some day, she'll wish she had be wearing drab clothes and not looking sexy. When someone stabs him some day, he'll wish he had been wearing a stab vest.

What is so irresistible about victim-blaming when it comes to cyclists?

AndrewJRenko · 14-10-2019 7:00pm

Aubree Jealous Tuna wrote: »

That's the attitude that'll get the public on board with more infrastructural and legal and financial support for cycling and cyclists monky old pal, good on yiz.

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

If somebody is constantly getting into accidents, and it is clear they are causing them (i.e. breaking red lights), then I would say people who are defending them are idiots.

There are awful drivers and awful cyclists, along with awful pedestrians. Some of the attitudes in this thread towards cyclists and from cyclists are shocking. And the people with these attitudes don't seem to realise they are turning the other side against them even more due to their attitudes

Remind me again how 'attitudes' worked out for the water charge protesters and the repeal campaign? Remember all those tone police telling all the obstreperous young repeal women that they just had to be nicer to people to get their way and get public support?

AndrewJRenko · 14-10-2019 7:02pm

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

So what’s the problem with them cycling 2 abreast?

They take up all the space apparently;

Maybe someone could remind Racile that driving blindly around a blind bend is not a great idea, and is actually illegal, given the legal requirement to drive in a manner that allows you to stop within the distance you can see to be clear.

raclle · 14-10-2019 8:02pm

Lads I think you've missed my point entirely

beauf · 14-10-2019 8:06pm

raclle wrote: »

Lads I think you've missed my point entirely

I think most people have forgotten this is after hours.

..you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...

riclad · 14-10-2019 8:47pm

I Don,t wear a helmet because it,s uncomfortable ,
it would be better if more people cycled to work,
less noise, less pollution, less traffic .

AndrewJRenko · 14-10-2019 9:32pm

raclle wrote: »

Lads I think you've missed my point entirely

Duckjob · 15-10-2019 10:52am

raclle wrote: »

Has anyone not driven on these twisty narrow main roads in the south? You'll know then what i'm talking about. There's no room for overtaking unless there's a clear stretch of road so you could be sitting behind someone for ages whether single or abreast.

Sounds like you should be getting on to your local councillors and campaigning to get cycle paths put on those roads to make life better for both people in bikes and people in cars.

And when I say cycle paths I mean proper dutch style infrastructure, not the start stop start stop painted line rubbish we usually see here.

Greyfox · 15-10-2019 11:16am

Duckjob wrote: »

Sounds like you should be getting on to your local councillors and campaigning to get cycle paths put on those roads to make life better for both people in bikes and people in cars.

Yeah that usually gets things solved quickly :rolleyes:

Tombo2001 · 15-10-2019 11:19am

Aubree Jealous Tuna wrote: »

Well it's kind of like the way I'm more concerned about getting hit by a car than hit by a rampaging horde of elephants, even though the latter would be far more dangerous. More concerned about melanoma than multiple sclerosis. Etc.

Trust me I get pissed off at cars breaking red lights too.

I don't like inconsiderate pricks is what I don't like, parse that to I don't like cyclists if you want.

Well if your issue is inconsiderate pricks then start giving out about inconsiderate pricks.

There are arseholes who cycle, just as there are arsehole drivers and arsehole pedestrians.

I could whinge in response to this, but the thing is that I talk about drivers the same way that you talk about cyclists. So I really cant complain too much.

I will maintain however, that an arsehole in a car is a lot more dangerous than on a bike.

Duckjob · 15-10-2019 11:50am

Greyfox wrote: »

Yeah that usually gets things solved quickly :rolleyes:

Roll your eyes all you want.

It would still be more constructive than taking out frustrations on people whose fault it isn't.

Tombo2001 · 15-10-2019 11:52am

Duckjob wrote: »

Roll your eyes all you want.

If more people applied pressure to change things instead of taking out their frustrations on people whose fault it isn't, things might improve more quickly for everyone.

Its a fair point.

If people could go out on one protest cycle or write one letter to a councillor for say every 100 social media comments complaining about cycling infrastructure.....

Politicians respond to the electorate, that's a matter of fact.

machaseh · 15-10-2019 11:59am

Why don't I wear a helmet?

I am Dutch. I have been biking since I could walk. I used to bike every single day, sometimes 60 kms or more, sometimes just shorter distances. In cities and on country roads. We are basically biking from the moment we can walk until the moment we are elderly and in a wheelchair. Whether you're a millionaire or on the dole, you bike.

Get yer bike paths in order lads. This godforsaken island is an absolute disgrace.

Tombo2001 · 15-10-2019 12:00pm

machaseh wrote: »

Why don't I wear a helmet?

I am Dutch. I have been biking since I could walk. I used to bike every single day, sometimes 60 kms or more, sometimes just shorter distances. In cities and on country roads. We are basically biking from the moment we can walk until the moment we are elderly and in a wheelchair. Whether you're a millionaire or on the dole, you bike.

Get yer bike paths in order lads. This godforsaken island is an absolute disgrace.

Hey- only Irish people are allowed say that:D:D:D:D

Boom_Bap · 15-10-2019 12:06pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Hey- only Irish people are allowed say that:D:D:D:D

The Dutch are practically Irish sure

Tombo2001 · 15-10-2019 12:08pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The Dutch are practically Irish sure

Really? Have the endured the same misery?

Crap infrastructure is in keeping with the Irish psyche of making sure this stay miserable for as long as possible....

machaseh · 15-10-2019 12:46pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Really? Have the endured the same misery?

Ah we have another sobbing lad who is only whining about what was done to them in the past. Look at the future and stop using the British colonialism on your island centuries ago as an excuse for why your country is basically one big kip man.

Thelonious Monk · 15-10-2019 12:49pm

We are nothing like the Dutch. They endured all kinds of atrocities during WW2 but dont moan about it they just get on with things. Ireland loves to wallow in self pity for some reason.

Tombo2001 · 15-10-2019 12:50pm

OK

This looks like a no-win conversation for me.

I was joking Machesah. I didn't set out to offend anyone.

All the best.

Boom_Bap · 15-10-2019 12:50pm

15-10-2019 1:04pm

machaseh wrote: »

Ah we have another sobbing lad who is only whining about what was done to them in the past. Look at the future and stop using the British colonialism on your island centuries ago as an excuse for why your country is basically one big kip man.

And that right there is why you should wear helmets, people.

Few too many head knocks on that one :pac:

machaseh · 15-10-2019 1:11pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

We are nothing like the Dutch. They endured all kinds of atrocities during WW2 but dont moan about it they just get on with things. Ireland loves to wallow in self pity for some reason.

My dutch grandparents suffered German occupation and what we call the Famine Winter, which was the last winter before liberation. They would have to eat famine foods that are hardly edible, such as flower bulbs or agricultural waste from beets and the like, enduring minus 20 weather ( not uncommon at this time before global warming) and heavy snow.

My province where I am from was completely flooded due to a storm in 1953, causing 1000s of casualties and many hundreds thousand losing their home and their land. Entire families of 12 children were swept away by the waves.

Yet we rebuilt everything and aren't remotely as whiny as the Irish about all of it.

Utter Consternation · 15-10-2019 1:28pm

Well this thread has taken a turn...

Your Face · 15-10-2019 1:33pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

We are nothing like the Dutch. They endured all kinds of atrocities during WW2 but dont moan about it they just get on with things. Ireland loves to wallow in self pity for some reason.

Like they just got on with it in Indonesia. Not very tolerant to massacre a people who wanted Independence from Dutch control.

They dont go on about WW2 because they had their fair share of Nazi collaborators.

Best not shine too bright a light.

raclle · 15-10-2019 1:37pm

Duckjob wrote: »

Sounds like you should be getting on to your local councillors and campaigning to get cycle paths put on those roads to make life better for both people in bikes and people in cars.

And when I say cycle paths I mean proper dutch style infrastructure, not the start stop start stop painted line rubbish we usually see here.

They cant even fix the roads we have never mind cycle paths.

Anyway my original point wasn't for me as a motorist but the broader picture as in how unsafe it is for cyclists in those circumstances but also for motorists incase of emergencies.

Boom_Bap · 15-10-2019 1:37pm

Your Face wrote: »

Like they just got on with it in Indonesia. Not very tolerant to massacre a people who wanted Independence from Dutch control.

They dont go on about WW2 because they had their fair share of Nazi collaborators.

Best not shine too bright a light.

Rumour has it the Dutch maintained the bicycles and cycle lanes for the Nazi's during the war.

Your Face · 15-10-2019 1:42pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Rumour has it the Dutch maintained the bicycles and cycle lanes for the Nazi's during the war.

Right. That does it.

I propose at an overly elaborate and ill-thought-out plan to invade.

We'll show these Chinese, I mean Dutch, how we play rugger this side of the cricket fence.

begsbyOnaTrain · 15-10-2019 1:44pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Rumour has it the Dutch maintained the bicycles and cycle lanes for the Nazi's during the war.

In fairness, all cyclists are Nazis.

machaseh · 15-10-2019 1:45pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Rumour has it the Dutch maintained the bicycles and cycle lanes for the Nazi's during the war.

At the time, motor traffic wasn't nearly as common as it is now and most roads would be predominantly used by cyclists, pedestrians and maybe the odd motorized car here and there, the odd horse and carriage here and there, and the old horse-powered trams.

Once motor traffic increased (mostly AFTER WWII), the government invested heavily in building bike infrastructure, as the many cyclists were being killed by the increasing motor traffic.

We've always been cycling a lot since the existence of bikes.

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