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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭oldgit1897


    sfakiaman wrote: »
    They could put up a pay wall like Sky or many newspapers but they're probably afraid no one would pay.

    I do not watch rte. Thankfully the satellite box i have does not pick up irish stations, neither does the television i have, but this lot of gangsters wants me to pay for something i do not receive ?

    Paywall ? No way in hell would i pay for that dross, when you get the likes of Joe duffy paid 500,000 a year to talk crap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    oldgit1897 wrote: »
    What do you think of Bruton's plan to introduce a new charge to get rid of the telly licence ? So even if you don't have a television, but are watching videos on your computer or phone, you have to pay it ? Irish water mk 2 imho.

    It's a second household charge. A property tax on top of the property tax if you will.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    "And today the Irish govt decided to introduce a tax on all potential users of fast food outlets,as they may drop in to use the lavatory,and not as purchase a courtsey pack of chips!"
    THAT is literally the kind of logic behind this.:mad:

    The only way around this is literally become an Amish,and there are all of 75 of them here...And eschrew all technologial advancements since the 1600s in your life.:)

    Otherwise, our only choice is to hit the streets and tell the PTB ,that this and reverse water charges is going to be a non-runner...Why do ye think they are only bringing this in in 5 years time? Hoping they will be out of govt and let the greens and whomever else deal with the massive dung pile on the desk this will be,or that the fuss and fire will have burnt itself out in the bog of Irish apathy.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭oldgit1897


    Privatise or sell off rte, aka the government propaganda channel. Problem solved. They claim rte is 20 million in the red and that shortfall needs making up. How about not paying very mediocre "stars" ridiculous salaries for a start ? Mariane finucaine getting a quarter million a year for an hours work everyday ?

    I'll never support them again after the hatchet jobs they did on us in their "primeslime" show.


  • Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭solarwinds


    Ah now come on thats all very harsh. Sure where would we be without Fair City to give out about.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭oldgit1897


    solarwinds wrote: »
    Ah now come on thats all very harsh. Sure where would we be without Fair City to give out about.

    Jaysis, the Ballydung players on the box :rolleyes:. I wonder to how many people that programme was the last straw, and off to find a bridge or get a length of rope ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    RTE ...Marginally better than 1970s East German state TV.In how the newsroom looks that is.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Hasan Piker, a "contributor" for TYT said that America deserved 9/11 and when speaking about Dan Crenshaw called the terrorist that took his eye a "brave f**king soldier".

    He immediately deleted the podcast but it got picked up.

    He was brought on to TYT by his Uncle, Cenk Uyger, and the first words out of Cenk's mouth were "so you said these things on your podcast, NOT on TYT". So immediately distancing himself from his Nephews comments. Within three minutes Hasan said that people were too stupid to understand what he meant, but continued on to say his comments were inappropriate and he apologizes for them. You can see he meant none of what he said and as the "get in front of this" side show continued and he was allowed to talk he not only dooubled down but attacked again..

    Back tot he start of the "please don't take out sponsorship money away" marathon, and Cenk says, and i quote "You tried to remove the podcast before some right winger could politicise it". Notice what he said. Not before any American seen it, any reporter seen it, or basically you shouldn't have done that, but right winger. Implying that to find fault with what hasan said you must be right wing, hence Nazi/White supremacist.

    He [Hasan] then "defends" his comments about the Congressman by saying it was a satirical reference to Rambo 3, and Ronald Reagan. Again if the audience did not understand that when he said :
    "This guy [Crenshaw] has the understanding of foreign policy of, like, a 12-year-old. What the f***. What the f*** is wrong with this dude? Didn't he go to war and like literally lose his eye because some mujahideen — a brave f***ing soldier — f***ed his eye hole with their d***?"

    "Isn't that how he f***ing lost his dumba** eye, because he got his f***ing eye hole f***ed, by a brave soldier?"
    ....... that he was being satirical then their right wingers. They even show a pictures from the 80s of Ronald Reagan meeting Mujahideen men to prove this is what he was referencing.

    He then says that Crenshaw took the insult "like a champ" and through his "blaming Crenshaw" non apology he once again let his mouth run away from his brain and ends up attacking Crenshaw at which point his Uncle has to cut him off and you can see Hasan physically tense up, grit his teeth and become pissed off.

    At the end Cenk continues to use the word satire in relation to the attack, as if saying it enough times will change the narrative, and highlights it was not done on TYT network.

    I've steered away from American politics over the last few months because it's tiresome and there is enough mud slinging on both sides to tire even the most ardent follower but some of the stuff coming out recently is just mind bogglingly (is that a word) messed up. Like when MSNBC "interviewed" a former FBI guy who said Trump lowering the flags to half mast until August 8th (after the dual mass shootings) is a sign he is a white supremacist because August 8th is 8-8, which for white supremacists is H-H (8th letter of the alphabet) and that stands for Heil Hitler.

    What is worse is the so called interviewer responds with "so as chilling as that is to hear". As if it were absolute fact.

    In the immortal words of Professor Farnsworth:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Pyker speaks 3 langauges English,Turkish and German...and says nothing of note or intelligence in any of them!:rolleyes:

    Just another "woke Bae" idiot with an opinion of which there are millions all trying to get their elusive 10 mins of fame.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    For a gun company...Imagine going to your local FO with this one,and the deliberate misspelling that will happen:D:D:D

    http://www.kuntarms.net/?fbclid=IwAR0e66fLppszypvHdcZCPrN-B_55b3zoWqLBwMldfn2lZD2I_uIxu0ub_7s#about

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Totally forgot about the raid on Area 51 that is happening either today or over the weekend. Knew i bought extra popcorn in the shopping this week for something.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Don't know if anyone of you seen it, but President Trump just won the 2020 election today thanks to Nancy Pelosi, Democrat.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    Cass wrote: »
    Don't know if anyone of you seen it, but President Trump just won the 2020 election today thanks to Nancy Pelosi, Democrat.

    It says it all about the Democrats, circle the wagons at any mention of corruption in their ranks and attack Trump for having the temerity to question their right to benefit from their insider position.

    Edit. Just found the below. Not sure on the legality of adding links fo Mods feel free to remove.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/24/democrats-wrote-to-ukraine-in-may-demanding-it-investigate-trump/


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    MY somewhat sarcastic post above was in relation to their [Democrats] inability to learn from past mistakes.

    The took the Russia hoax by the horns and ran with it for over 2 years to the tune of $42 million and in the end they fired FBI directors and senior agents for lying.

    The Democrats have tried to impeach the last four or five Republican Presidents yet the only two American Presidents to be impeached were Democrats Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.

    Jerry Nadler has had a formal complaint made against him to be removed from his position of Chair because he dropped all pretense and said he was using the house oversight judiciary to impeach President Trump which is illegal and against his party's wishes (he has been at this for weeks/months, and long before the announcement yesterday).

    Now, and if anyone thinks its an accident that President Trump was "caught" phoning the Ukranian President, [Pelosi] under pressure from the younger/newer members of the Democrat party she has finally caved to pressure and announced their intent to seek impeachment.

    What it will do is shine a really bright spotlight on Trump, at the start, then it'll move onto Biden, his son, and the Democratic party as a whole. It'll push Trump's ardent supporters further to his side, those in the middle towards him, and even if pigs fly, and hell freezes and they impeach President Trump it's not a removal from office offence. They need a supermajority to do so and with 60+ Democrats not supporting impeachment, no REpublicans, and a senate under Republican control it'll never happen.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    One other thing, and it's on a different but related topic.

    Google this "Joe Biden Ukraine Billion corruption".

    The results are all Trump and Trump images/videos. Same on Youtube. You have to search and search and even using those key words the search results won't show Biden. The same thing happened with Epstein. They scrubbed Clinton from a lot/most search results.

    Only last week Google, Facebook, etc. announced they are publishers, not a platform giving them permission to edit, alter and ban certain content. The reason this is vitally important is they claimed previously they were a platform and not responsible for the content. As a publisher they are essentially admitting they edit and alter search results and content.

    It's why gun based youtube channels are being demonetized, banned. Why PayPal is refusing to allow gun sales via their "platform". Why Twitter/Facebook are censoring and banning conservative views/posts.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Plus the fact there is a video ofof "Gropey Joe" Biden admitting publically that HE himself did threaten to withold US aid money from the Ukraine unless the justice minister was removed.
    His son ,Hunter is a walking disaster area,dishonourbly discharged and cashierd out of the US Navy.Drug record for dealing crack,and being involved in more dodgy dealings and companies than Mark Thatcher..

    Meantime 2020 draws nearer,and the Dems have nothing as a viable canditate in their utter clown car .A whole slew of old white men and women espousing Socialism,an idiot from Texas,whose gretest achivement was playing guitar dressed as a sheep in his Moms dress in a punk rock band ,and being arrested for DUI and burglary who has just shot the Dems literally in the head about their "no one is coming for your guns!" lie. Ol Beto is now the best recruiting Sargent for the NRA/GOA,and will feature for years at any pro gun conventions.:D

    Elizabeth Warren AKA "Lieawatha"who claimed she is half Red Indian..
    Corey Brooker,now literally sitting with a cardboard sign on the internet saying "Will run for president for pennies!"is broke for campaign funds.

    Their campaign promises are summed up as this "Ban guns,open borders and free stuff for all!":rolleyes:
    Going against a guy,love or hate him,who has increased the economy,got more ethnic groups employed than in the last 25 years.Put more money in the average Americans pocket,hasnt got the US involved in any new conflicts,respects the armed forces,and actually got talking to one of the "axis of evil" main boogey men.

    I'd be very surprised if he isnt still in thhe House until 2024.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Plus the fact there is a video ofof "Gropey Joe" Biden admitting publically that HE himself did threaten to withold US aid money from the Ukraine unless the justice minister was removed.
    Here ya go:



    And for those that think its RT, hence Russian "interference", here is ABC doing the same thing:


    I'd be very surprised if he isnt still in thhe House until 2024.

    He'll win in 2020, i'm fairly sure of that. The only real competitor he has is Warren. So perhaps a Warren/Sanders ticket because the rest will fall away due to finances, poor polling, or in the case of Robert, just a nutjob. I mean a criminal that cannot own a gun telling people he'll take their guns. Priceless.

    The other thing is President Trump has done this "thing" a few times over the years. Leaked or seemed in trouble, the Dems jump on it, and he ends up sucker punching them.

    He and his administration have said they will declassify all phone transcripts of his conversation with the Ukrainian President, all documents from the whistleblower, and AG reports on sad whistleblower by the end of the week.

    Now unless you're on the bottom rung of the ladder in IQ terms you don't do this if thee is even a hint of impropriety. Even if some believe President Trump is that dumb, well he has a staff of over 1,100 so one of them would surely stop him from dropping the ball.

    I'm dying to see what it says, and if it does vindicate him what the Dems will do to try and make it into something.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Cass wrote: »
    ............ and if it does vindicate him what the Dems will do to try and make it into something.

    HAH.

    CNN, just now, saying even if President Trump's administration releases all the documents, transcripts, etc, etc. ....................... HOW CAN WE TRUST THEM?

    Already laying the groundwork for the Dems "whoops, our bad. Let me just take back that impeachment thingy.".

    They are so desperate for Trump not to be re-elected that they cannot focus on anything else except how to derail him and his re-election. They actually said this. They cannot focus on jobs, gun control, education, etc. because of their tireless work to stop Trump.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Cass wrote: »
    I'm dying to see what it says, ............

    Just after reading the transcript.

    It shows no signs of a quid pro quo (for the Ukrainians to investigate Joe Biden allegedly using his position as vice presidential to have a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son’s business dealings in the country) or President Trump pressuring the Ukrainian President in any way. There was no mention of withholding aid, investment or any other financial penalties if he [Ukrainian President) did not investigate.

    The entire piece, on Trump's end was a few lines. It was the Ukrainian President that offered more and went into much more detail.

    See what happens next.


    BTW - Its here if anyone wants a read.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    So in the last month we have been told we're getting or are facing:
    • Screen tax (so more RTE execs can go to Japan for free)
    • Fast Food tax
    • Meat ban (because feelings)
    • Second carbon tax (because a 16 yr old said so)
    and now...........

    ............. drum roll please ....................

    ......... a tariff (otherwise known as a tax) for usage of electricity during peak hours because the ESB said they are barely able to manage to meet requirements, now. Roll on a few years when we're all driving €50,000+ EVs, using aircon all summer because of the global warming, and then using heating all winter because of, er, global warming they won't be able to cope.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,651 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Cass wrote: »
    So in the last month we have been told we're getting or are facing:
    • Screen tax (so more RTE execs can go to Japan for free)
    • Fast Food tax
    • Meat ban (because feelings)
    • Second carbon tax (because a 16 yr old said so)
    and now...........

    ............. drum roll please ....................

    ......... a tariff (otherwise known as a tax) for usage of electricity during peak hours because the ESB said they are barely able to manage to meet requirements, now. Roll on a few years when we're all driving €50,000+ EVs, using aircon all summer because of the global warming, and then using heating all winter because of, er, global warming they won't be able to cope.

    You would have enjoyed Matt and Ivan tonight - Ian O Doherty calling out the greenwash brigade and their cult like bullying and virtue signalling. Pointed out that unless we embrace nuclear here and promote family planning in the third world then everything else is just BS


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭yubabill


    Cass wrote: »
    One other thing, and it's on a different but related topic.

    Google this "Joe Biden Ukraine Billion corruption".

    The results are all Trump and Trump images/videos. Same on Youtube. You have to search and search and even using those key words the search results won't show Biden. The same thing happened with Epstein. They scrubbed Clinton from a lot/most search results.

    Only last week Google, Facebook, etc. announced they are publishers, not a platform giving them permission to edit, alter and ban certain content. The reason this is vitally important is they claimed previously they were a platform and not responsible for the content. As a publisher they are essentially admitting they edit and alter search results and content.

    It's why gun based youtube channels are being demonetized, banned. Why PayPal is refusing to allow gun sales via their "platform". Why Twitter/Facebook are censoring and banning conservative views/posts.

    Google have been caught introducing a "fairness" algorithm into its search engine - try typing "white couples" into it and see what white couples look like.


    they had scrubbed results for "hilary clinton's emails" but seem to have rectified this following the below expose

    https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    You would have enjoyed Matt and Ivan tonight - Ian O Doherty calling out the greenwash brigade and their cult like bullying and virtue signalling. Pointed out that unless we embrace nuclear here and promote family planning in the third world then everything else is just BS

    JAYSUS!!! The thought of nuke power in Ireland...I'm against it totally!!...Not because of it in itself,but because of the thought of the Irish govt and private industry being involved in the building,running,maintaining,security of the most destructive force known in the universe.This would be The Simpsons,Springfield power plant in real life.Homer Simpsons in charge of its day to day running,Waylon Smithers in administration,and Montgomery Burns types owning and deciding howw it would be run.Lets face it,if we cant build tunnels to keep water out,or olympic pools to keep water in,and literally everything is over budget and second rate in construction or design,or some gangster is doing it on the cheap...IE Piriory Hall...Imagine your nuke containment vessel concrete is full of pyrite,because someone got a brown paper envelope,or their cousin or dad had a cement company,and "shure nuthin will happen,be grand!"itis is endemic....

    Put it like this ,we wont need night vision to go hunting after a inevitiable event with such here.The deer and foxes will be glowing nicely from radiation,from their three heads and webbed paws.:eek:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,651 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    JAYSUS!!! The thought of nuke power in Ireland...I'm against it totally!!...Not because of it in itself,but because of the thought of the Irish govt and private industry being involved in the building,running,maintaining,security of the most destructive force known in the universe.This would be The Simpsons,Springfield power plant in real life.Homer Simpsons in charge of its day to day running,Waylon Smithers in administration,and Montgomery Burns types owning and deciding howw it would be run.Lets face it,if we cant build tunnels to keep water out,or olympic pools to keep water in,and literally everything is over budget and second rate in construction or design,or some gangster is doing it on the cheap...IE Piriory Hall...Imagine your nuke containment vessel concrete is full of pyrite,because someone got a brown paper envelope,or their cousin or dad had a cement company,and "shure nuthin will happen,be grand!"itis is endemic....

    Put it like this ,we wont need night vision to go hunting after a inevitiable event with such here.The deer and foxes will be glowing nicely from radiation,from their three heads and webbed paws.:eek:

    We could do a deal with the French and pipe it in - we are smaller than Paris in terms of population. Much cheaper and more effective then all those useless bird shredding wind farms etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Isnt that what the interconnector is for ?Something like 88% of our energy is coming from the UK.Be intresting to see if the Brits decided to switch off the power as a hard negoiating tool on Brexit.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Cass wrote: »
    So in the last month we have been told we're getting or are facing:
    • Screen tax (so more RTE execs can go to Japan for free)
    • Fast Food tax
    • Meat ban (because feelings)
    • Second carbon tax (because a 16 yr old said so)
    and now...........

    ............. drum roll please ....................

    ......... a tariff (otherwise known as a tax) for usage of electricity during peak hours because the ESB said they are barely able to manage to meet requirements, now. Roll on a few years when we're all driving €50,000+ EVs, using aircon all summer because of the global warming, and then using heating all winter because of, er, global warming they won't be able to cope.




    I think these air source heatpumps they're cajoling everyone into buying will have a much greater effect on the grid than the electric cars. Lots more of them being installed than people buying electric cars.



    What it comes down to with these extra fees and levies and price hikes is really the fact that they don't want people to burn the fossil fuels but they still want at least 2,000 eur per household to be going into the energy companies. It's this money changing hands that keeps the economy going


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I think these air source heatpumps they're cajoling everyone into buying will have a much greater effect on the grid than the electric cars. Lots more of them being installed than people buying electric cars.
    I'd imagine there are a host of other issues/items which have a greater "draw" on the grid than electric cars given their current numbers, but the focus is on those as they are the agenda being pushed.
    What it comes down to with these extra fees and levies and price hikes is really the fact that they don't want people to burn the fossil fuels but they still want at least 2,000 eur per household to be going into the energy companies. It's this money changing hands that keeps the economy going
    I'm no expert, in fact i'm not even close to the same neighbourhood of being an amatuer. However i have an opinion based on facts and what i see/read.

    In the current social climate of climate change we are being forced through taxation and fines to adopt to a "cleaner" method of living. The problem, and this can be applied to all aspects of the climate "alarmist" claims, is what to do.

    Everyone is screaming that the world is burning down around us, but there are no solution being proposed. Well, no realistic solutions.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,651 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Isnt that what the interconnector is for ?Something like 88% of our energy is coming from the UK.Be intresting to see if the Brits decided to switch off the power as a hard negoiating tool on Brexit.

    There is one already planned using EU money etc. direct from France to come ashore near Cork Harbour in the next 5-10 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭oldgit1897


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Isnt that what the interconnector is for ?Something like 88% of our energy is coming from the UK.Be intresting to see if the Brits decided to switch off the power as a hard negoiating tool on Brexit.

    Well old "look at my socks, i'm gay, i am the european union" was planning to ban the flight of british planes over ireland, during one of his hissy fits over brexit. Where planes fly, to the best of my knowledge has little to do with the eu, its international agreements that are established years before the eu was in existence.

    He wouldn't be long back tracking if the lights started going out across the land, i would imagine the american multinationals would be on to him so quick, your head would spin.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭oldgit1897


    Cass wrote: »
    So in the last month we have been told we're getting or are facing:
    • Screen tax (so more RTE execs can go to Japan for free)
    • Fast Food tax
    • Meat ban (because feelings)
    • Second carbon tax (because a 16 yr old said so)
    and now...........

    ............. drum roll please ....................

    ......... a tariff (otherwise known as a tax) for usage of electricity during peak hours because the ESB said they are barely able to manage to meet requirements, now. Roll on a few years when we're all driving €50,000+ EVs, using aircon all summer because of the global warming, and then using heating all winter because of, er, global warming they won't be able to cope.


    I will simply refuse to pay any money what so ever to the government propaganda channel. Years ago it was the bishops and bent TD's on lecturing us and telling us how to live and behave (Do as i say, not as i do). Now its the right-on PC brigade and bent TD's.

    If you think thats paranoid, can you remember the last time a TD in the party in power was given a grilling over a mistake or collosal f-up ? I can't. They are fawned over and let off the hook. The primeslime coverage of anything to do with our sport was disgusting, anyone representing us was talked down or shut up.

    They are panicking now as more and more people are not buying papers (mostly owned by a supporter of theirs), or watching the bilge that is RTE. People are using the web etc, and they can not control that.

    Meat ban, Fast food tax and more carbon taxes ? Wow, FG have really thrown the conservative rural vote in the bin haven't they ? They might want to think twice about that.


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