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US congresswoman states America should be "more fearful of white men"

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    #272
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    I clearly wasn't asking you. I'm interested in the views of the poster who raised the BDS legislation in the US as to their views on the Irish legislation.
    oops sorry.

    Why are you posting on an Irish site if living in the states? Are you coming back home again?


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    #273
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭circadian


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    -_-


    Yes. I am Irish. Both my parents are Irish and born here.

    There are Irish Jews you know.

    They weren't even asking you.

    FOCUS.


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    #274
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Tell me how wrote: »
    That was another post that was not aimed at you ILYV.............
    I misread it i have acknowledged that.


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    #275
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    https://www.americanexperiment.org/legislative-digest/sen-latz-leads-dfl-criticism-rep-ilhan-omars-history-anti-semitic-comments/
    Having read that, you must be aware that it does not support your facts.


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    #276
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Very true, but many people have adapted to condemning israel as a method of venting their hatred for jews. I am no fan of israel in any regard but Omars voting consistently against helping israel and her comments on israel are a dog whistle to her muslim supporters inherrintly held anti-semitic views.

    Really. How do you know the true motivations of those who are using the occupation of lands, the embargoing of medical and food supplies, the removal of energy and water supplies is actually done in order to complain about what they really hate which is the religion?


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    #277
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    Are you living in Ireland - genuine question.
    No. I live in the US (in Molly Maguire country), but I can claim Irish citizenship by descent as at the time of my birth my mother was an Irish citizen.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #278
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    circadian wrote: »
    They weren't even asking you.

    FOCUS.


    On your ignorance? Its hard not to.


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    #279
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    notobtuse wrote: »
    No. I live in the US (in Molly Maguire country), but I can claim Irish citizenship by descent as at the time of my birth my mother was an Irish citizen.
    Why do you post here?


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    #280
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭circadian


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    https://www.americanexperiment.org/legislative-digest/sen-latz-leads-dfl-criticism-rep-ilhan-omars-history-anti-semitic-comments/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_the_American_Experiment


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    #281
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    oops sorry.

    Why are you posting on an Irish site if living in the states? Are you coming back home again?
    I'm sitting in my office in the Dublin docklands at the minute, about to get out and enjoy the sunny afternoon with a few scoops. As I said, I live 6 months in Dublin 6 months in L.A., I hold current practising certificates in law in California, Ireland and England & Wales and I work in a multi-national commercial industry which affords me a relatively broad view of the world (since you brought up your law and philosophy degree earlier, I figure full disclosure on my end).


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    #282
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Really. How do you know the true motivations of those who are using the occupation of lands, the embargoing of medical and food supplies, the removal of energy and water supplies is actually done in order to complain about what they really hate which is the religion?


    Because they threaten me and call me a kike. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/i-have-never-seen-so-much-hatred-for-jews-says-filmmaker-on-derry-bars-antisemites-38016143.html

    Or say Hitler didn't kill enough jews.


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    #283
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    She's a nasty piece of work. She said Trump was lying about there being a humanitarian crisis at the border and then when it became undeniable she whined and said that congress would treat dogs better. Even though the day before she and 94 other democrats voted against allocating Trump the much needed $4.4bln emergency funding. Yeah, their empathy is real genuine.

    And look at this. Does this sound like someone who is just about conveying the truth to her followers and the electorate?

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    These people create more division than anyone else in society and by these I mean far leftists.


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    #284
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    notobtuse wrote: »
    No. I live in the US (in Molly Maguire country), but I can claim Irish citizenship by descent as at the time of my birth my mother was an Irish citizen.
    Just curious as your views on BDS and Israel as a whole wouldn't be commonplace in Ireland at all.


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    #285
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    I'm sitting in my office in the docklands at the minute. As I said, I live 6 months in Dublin 6 months in L.A., I hold current practising certificates in law in California, Ireland and England & Wales and I work in a multi-national commercial industry which affords me a relatively broad view of the world (since you brought up your law and philosophy degree earlier, I figure full disclosure on my end).
    Amazing.

    Go you!


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    #286
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    circadian wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_the_American_Experiment


    Everyone saw the comments.

    If she didn't say them why did she apologize?

    As for conservative websites even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.


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    #287
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'd say its more to do with their land being occupied by the State of Israel in contravention of international agreements than an inherent hatred of the religion.
    Jews are being targeted here in the US by select groups... quite a ways away from Israel. Wasn't it the land of Jews before being occupied by others?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #288
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    alastair wrote: »
    No she didn’t. We can all review the video.

    And I quote…
    “I would say. Our country should be more fearful of the white man across our country because they are causing most of the deaths within this country...”


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    #289
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    Just curious as your views on BDS and Israel as a whole wouldn't be commonplace in Ireland at all.
    I understand that, but this is a thread dealing with the US and viewpoints of Americans is germane to the discussion.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #290
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    meeeeh wrote: »
    The politician you wouldn't even know about if Trump didn't decide he can use her for his campaign is threatening to you. You were probably profiled as a white terrorist for a year but you only now discovered it's because of her statements. Your suffering must have been immense.

    Oh I knew about her. But what would you know? I have family in new York and Florida. I travel over frequently enough. She is well known for her refusal to condemn Muslim terrorists and anti Semitic tropes, and hatred of Israel.


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    #291
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I understand that, but this is a thread dealing with the US and viewpoints of Americans is germane to the discussion.
    ...on an Irish forum, owned by an Irish media company and presumably comprising of 90%+ people living in or from Ireland.


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    #292
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Oh I knew about her. But what would you know? I have family in new York and Florida. I travel over frequently enough. She is well known for her refusal to condemn Muslim terrorists and anti Semitic tropes, and hatred of Israel.
    A lot of people hate Israel, that doesn't mean they hate Jews.


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    #293
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I understand that, but this is a thread dealing with the US and viewpoints of Americans is germane to the discussion.
    Most people in Ireland are neutral or uninterested in Israel and Palestine.

    Some who are very into politics partic nationalist or socialist politics are very anti Israel in the extreme. Not all of them but many are very antisemitic.

    But on the whole its not an issue many Irish people are that interested in despite what twitter tells you.


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    #294
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    These people create more division than anyone else in society and by these I mean far leftists.

    In other words she is left wing version of Trump. A bit better looking and smarter.


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    #295
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Because they threaten me and call me a kike. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/i-have-never-seen-so-much-hatred-for-jews-says-filmmaker-on-derry-bars-antisemites-38016143.html

    Or say Hitler didn't kill enough jews.

    Another post which was part of an interaction which you were not involved in. Responding to posts out of context like this is a recipe for disaster.
    Really, I don't know are you doing this deliberately at this stage.

    I imagine you are not enjoying this thread.
    I'm logging off now and going for some fresh air. Maybe you would benefit from doing similar.


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    #296
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    A lot of people hate Israel, that doesn't mean they hate Jews.
    Why is it OK to hate Israelis?

    And I would argue if you hate everything about Israel you really hate jews.


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    #297
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Another post which was part of an interaction which you were not involved in. Responding to posts out of context like this is a recipe for disaster.
    Really, I don't know are you doing this deliberately at this stage.

    I imagine you are not enjoying this thread.
    I'm logging off now and going for some fresh air. Maybe you would benefit from doing similar.
    I am actually just putting you on ignore don't be offended bye.


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    #298
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    mad muffin wrote: »
    And I quote…

    Yeaaaaah - selectively quoting without the context. Again - we can all see the full unedited video.
    HASAN: A lot of conservatives in particular would say that the rise in Islamophobia is the result not of hate, but of fear. And legitimate fear, they say, of quote-unquote “jihadist terrorism” — whether it’s Fort Hood, or San Bernardino, or the recent truck attack in New York. What do you say to them?

    OMAR: I would say — our country should be more fearful of white men across our country, because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country. And so if fear was the driving force of policies to keep America safe, Americans safe inside of this country, we should be profiling, monitoring, and creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men.


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    #299
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    She is not an anti-Semite: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/chasemadar/ilhan-omar-anti-semitism-load-bearing-myth

    It actually proves her point about the power of the Zionist lobby that her statement with regard to said lobby is anti-Semitic. It's very odd for legitimate posters on an Irish website (and presumably Irish) rushing to call someone critical of Israel and, in particular, sections of extreme Zionists and the lobby of Zionists in the USA an anti-Semite when such views are widely held in this country vis-a-vis Palestine.

    Lol. That’s just a sheet twisting in the wind…


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    #300
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    alastair wrote: »
    Yeaaaaah - selectively quoting without the context. Again - we can all see the full unedited video.
    We fully understand the context she put it in. It doesn't make a difference to us we feel the same way about it.


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    #301
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    ...on an Irish forum, owned by an Irish media company and presumably comprising of 90%+ people living in or from Ireland.
    Are you opposed to views regarding the US presented by people not living in Ireland?

    This website targets me with advertising from US companies, so they're making money off me. Seems the only color (nationality) Boards cares about is, as we say in the US... "Green."

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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