Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

godtabh · 12-06-2019 08:13AM

neris wrote: »

Hinting at a switch but no names given

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sam-bennett-strongly-hints-at-switching-teams-after-dauphine-stage-win/

I think a switch has been on the cards since his Giro snub.

gman2k · 12-06-2019 08:19AM

godtabh wrote:

I think a switch has been on the cards since his Giro snub.

A switch has been on the cards since before the TDF last summer! He openly said that the TDF is where he needs to be competing as a top sprinter, but it looked like he wouldn't be getting that chance with Sagan on the team, so would need to move if he wanted to be in it. Total professional about it though, no toys thrown out of the pram

Diarmuid · 12-06-2019 08:49AM

I wonder what the chances of a mid season transfer to the likes of Katusha ? I guess it would all depend on how much Katusha are prepared to pay for it,

connachta · 17-06-2019 08:26PM

He has a good chance to ride the Vuelta this season, already!

wirelessdude01 · 17-06-2019 08:29PM

connachta wrote:

He has a good chance to ride the Vuelta this season, already!

Doubt this will happen if he is changing. Generally riders confirmed as moving are sidelined.

CrowdedHouse · 08-07-2019 09:29AM

As good a rumour as any I suppose

https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/1148158619206242305

cunavalos · 08-07-2019 10:36AM

It is a fairly good option for Sam and QuickStep are likely to be freeing up some cash with the departures of Viviani, Gilbert(to Lotto) and Mas (to Movistar )

There really are not a lot of better options out there and rumours circulating that Canyon and Alpecin will pull out of sponsoring Katusha (to be confirmed on first rest day of TDF-will be ploughing their sponsorship in van der Poel at the olympics) ruling out one of the options and the toxic atmosphere at Dimension Data (who will be rebranding anyway)whom I had suggested earlier in the year.

Surely we would get an Irish version of Viviani's national championship jersey that he wore at the Giro:eek:

Diarmuid · 08-07-2019 10:57AM

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

As good a rumour as any I suppose

https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/1148158619206242305

Talk about a high pressure environment. It's a team with potential for a lot of wins. Just don't disappoint Patrick.

RobFowl · 08-07-2019 11:01AM

Diarmuid wrote: »

Talk about a high pressure environment. It's a team with potential for a lot of wins. Just don't disappoint Patrick.

It's Pro sport at the highest level, pressure is inevitable.
Sam has shown he can deal with pressure and adversity in the past and with non selection this year (despite being Bora's top performer).
He will succeed if goes to QS.

Lusk_Doyle · 08-07-2019 11:40AM

RobFowl wrote: »

It's Pro sport at the highest level, pressure is inevitable.
Sam has shown he can deal with pressure and adversity in the past and with non selection this year (despite being Bora's top performer).
He will succeed if goes to QS.

He's not strictly their top performer this year though. Both Sagan and Ackermann are significantly ahead of him in terms of UCI points won. He may have a couple of more stage wins than Ackermann and a good few more than Sagan but that just isn't enough obviously.

RobFowl · 08-07-2019 12:07PM

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

He's not strictly their top performer this year though. Both Sagan and Ackermann are significantly ahead of him in terms of UCI points won. He may have a couple of more stage wins than Ackermann and a good few more than Sagan but that just isn't enough obviously.

It's all about them wins baby
Sam has won more and won consistently.
Down in points because they haven't sent him to the bigger races for some reason....

nak · 08-07-2019 01:13PM

cunavalos wrote: »

There really are not a lot of better options out there and rumours circulating that Canyon and Alpecin will pull out of sponsoring Katusha (to be confirmed on first rest day of TDF-will be ploughing their sponsorship in van der Poel at the olympics)

Van der Poel just signed a 4 year ambassador deal with Canyon so would not be surprised to see that happen.

Lusk_Doyle · 08-07-2019 01:59PM

RobFowl wrote: »

It's all about them wins baby
Sam has won more and won consistently.
Down in points because they haven't sent him to the bigger races for some reason....

He's more wins this year than Vivianni.

CramCycle · 08-07-2019 02:23PM

Hes not sent to certain races for two reasons, Sagan being the poster boy being carried by Specialized, they pick where he goes, not the team as they pay his wage. The other is that Bora clearly play to certain crowds and geographically, an Irishman doesn't tick those boxes,a German one does.

TheBlaaMan · 10-07-2019 09:42AM

The Eurosport guys weren't keen on the Bennett to DQS rumour yesterday and even suggested it wasnt a good idea for Sam, but its a done deal, it seems, with Partick Lefevre himself breaking cover yesterday.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/viviani-to-leave-deceuninck-quickstep-despite-tour-de-france-success/

10-07-2019 10:32AM

Heard Smith and Blythe on about it yesterday and their comments as to why it wasn't a good move made no sense at all. Even if Viviani stays Sam would most likely get a better program next season.

Macy0161 · 10-07-2019 10:55AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Heard Smith and Blythe on about it yesterday and their comments as to why it wasn't a good move made no sense at all. Even if Viviani stays Sam would most likely get a better program next season.

Yeah, watched that this morning and it made no sense.

I really didn't get the logic that he was in a good team, being supported now - but then was Smith at NetApp-Endura when Sam signed for them/ his first season there? Smith might have thrown Doug Ryder under the bus, but maybe relations are still good there....

Anyway, it'd be a brilliant move for Sam, and you wouldn't think there's be the same issues competing for places with Jakobsen and Hodeg. About the only negative would possibly be support in Milan-San Remo, and some of the cobbled races that I think he could have potential given how he can get over harder routes than most pure sprinters. But I've no idea if he's any interest in the other classics.

TheBlaaMan · 10-07-2019 11:31AM

Macy0161 wrote: »

I really didn't get the logic that he was in a good team, being supported now - but then was Smith at NetApp-Endura when Sam signed for them/ his first season there? Smith might have thrown Doug Ryder under the bus, but maybe relations are still good there....

I think you're crossing team there? Smith was at NetApp but moved to MTN Qhubeca (sp ?) where he fell out with Doug Ryder (who was never involved with NetApp/Bora).

Meanwhile, Alberto Contador definitely has a motor in his bike today.........

Macy0161 · 10-07-2019 11:38AM

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

I think you're crossing team there? Smith was at NetApp but moved to MTN Qhubeca (sp ?) where he fell out with Doug Ryder (who was never involved with NetApp/Bora).

I was trying to get at that NetApp evolved into Bora. He fell out with Doug Ryder, but maybe relations are still good with the guys in Bora.

It's about the only way I can understand his logic of Sam staying at Bora was a good thing!

cunavalos · 17-07-2019 03:18PM

Slightly of topic for Sam but Formolo's national champion jersey was photographed yesterday and may give some indication of Sams kit for the rest of the season

I know that the italian cycling federation impose stricter restrictions on what trade teams can do with the national jerseys than cycling ireland but will be interesting to see what the kit looks like when Sam next lines up at the London classic

eeeee · 17-07-2019 06:29PM

Can't have orange on the Irish kit though, technically, for political reasons. CI are a whole island organisation.
Just discovered this getting my own national champs club kit last year.

RobFowl · 19-07-2019 08:25PM

nee wrote: »

Can't have orange on the Irish kit though, technically, for political reasons. CI are a whole island organisation.
Just discovered this getting my own national champs club kit last year.

Show off

Eamonnator · 19-07-2019 09:10PM

nee wrote: »

Can't have orange on the Irish kit though, technically, for political reasons. CI are a whole island organisation.
Just discovered this getting my own national champs club kit last year.

Nicolas Roche's jerseys (Sky, AG2R & BMC) had orange on them.
Not on the body, but on the sleeves.

Sorry, I'm unable to post a link, due to my stupid.
Edit. able to link this one.
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/nicolas-roche-to-miss-national-champs-says-he-needs-to-rest-before-tour-de-france/

19-07-2019 09:28PM

Was going to say the same, all of the guys have had tri-colour bands on the sleeves. Must be just the main jersey but it's still a bit of a contradiction.

eeeee · 20-07-2019 10:51AM

Yeah they're not allowed to do that but if CI don't object it stays.

eeeee · 20-07-2019 10:52AM

RobFowl wrote: »

Show off

Taxuser1 · 20-07-2019 12:37PM

With so much suspicion surrounding performances by DQS I honestly hope Bennett does not sign for them. Poison chalice.

jimbobaloobob · 20-07-2019 12:54PM

Taxuser1 wrote: »

With so much suspicion surrounding performances by DQS I honestly hope Bennett does not sign for them. Poison chalice.

Who holds suspicions of them?

letape · 20-07-2019 12:57PM

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Who holds suspicions of them?

Everyone that was surprised by JA’s stage win yesterday. Take a look at forums such as bikeradar or the comments posted on cyclingnews.

jimbobaloobob · 20-07-2019 01:03PM

letape wrote: »

Everyone that was surprised by JA’s stage win yesterday. Take a look at forums such as bikeradar or the comments posted on cyclingnews.

Ah I don't give that much credence at all. Keyboard skeptics want something to shout about. If it wasn't him winning it would be the margin ineos won it by.

Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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