Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

13-05-2019 10:44pm

Nibali is probably going to Trek next year so that's a pretty packed roster of leaders if Degenkolb is still there too. Along with Mollema, Porte and Stuyven. Though I don't know what their contract situations are like.

13-05-2019 11:02pm

Trek are an odd one, they have some quality riders but they a not a good team these days. Which suggests changes needed in the back room staff.

jimbobaloobob · 13-05-2019 11:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Trek are an odd one, they have some quality riders but they a not a good team these days. Which suggests changes needed in the back room staff.

What sort of changes to back room staff?

They have diverted a lot of their attention into Womens pro racing.

eeeee · 14-05-2019 12:41am

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

What sort of changes to back room staff?

They have diverted a lot of their attention into Womens pro racing.

The women's team is a totally separate entity so not impacting on the men's team at all.
You may as well say the DH teams they run are costing the men's road team- they're completely separate. Also the investment in women's road racing is much, much less than the men's equivalent.
They haven't produced the results of the kind the calibre of riders on their roster would suggest, for while, so I'd say it's pretty safe to say something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

carltonleon · 14-05-2019 8:09am

So with all that in mind Katusha seems the best fit for Sam. He must be so frustrated this year with the lack of opportunities in GTs

Finnrocco · 14-05-2019 9:52am

Looks like Sagan is back, but you never know, anything can happen between now and the Tour.

Sam has to stay ready and focussed.
I think he rides better when fresh i.e. seems to be able to go off for a month with no racing and come back and pick up his form straight away.

I also like the way he generally doesn't win the first one or two stages (of the bigger races against the top guys) but seems to be able to work out a way to beat them after a few misses.

Also, he's professional and just does his job when asked - that's what a manager appreciates - look for example at Origi and Moura last week as prime examples in another sport - the big stars out and the next in line steps in and does the job.

cunavalos · 11-06-2019 3:51pm

Feel like this thread deserves a bump

happytramp · 11-06-2019 3:59pm

cunavalos wrote: »

Feel like this thread deserves a bump

Yep, can only mean one thing when you see this thread bumped.

neris · 11-06-2019 4:23pm

https://twitter.com/procycletrumps/status/1138461053078167557?s=19

godtabh · 11-06-2019 6:21pm

Be interesting to see who he ends up signing for. Couldn’t be having a better season

neris · 12-06-2019 1:35am

Hinting at a switch but no names given

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sam-bennett-strongly-hints-at-switching-teams-after-dauphine-stage-win/

godtabh · 12-06-2019 9:13am

neris wrote: »

Hinting at a switch but no names given

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sam-bennett-strongly-hints-at-switching-teams-after-dauphine-stage-win/

I think a switch has been on the cards since his Giro snub.

gman2k · 12-06-2019 9:19am

godtabh wrote:

I think a switch has been on the cards since his Giro snub.

A switch has been on the cards since before the TDF last summer! He openly said that the TDF is where he needs to be competing as a top sprinter, but it looked like he wouldn't be getting that chance with Sagan on the team, so would need to move if he wanted to be in it. Total professional about it though, no toys thrown out of the pram

Diarmuid · 12-06-2019 9:49am

I wonder what the chances of a mid season transfer to the likes of Katusha ? I guess it would all depend on how much Katusha are prepared to pay for it,

connachta · 17-06-2019 9:26pm

He has a good chance to ride the Vuelta this season, already!

wirelessdude01 · 17-06-2019 9:29pm

connachta wrote:

He has a good chance to ride the Vuelta this season, already!

Doubt this will happen if he is changing. Generally riders confirmed as moving are sidelined.

CrowdedHouse · 08-07-2019 10:29am

As good a rumour as any I suppose

https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/1148158619206242305

cunavalos · 08-07-2019 11:36am

It is a fairly good option for Sam and QuickStep are likely to be freeing up some cash with the departures of Viviani, Gilbert(to Lotto) and Mas (to Movistar )

There really are not a lot of better options out there and rumours circulating that Canyon and Alpecin will pull out of sponsoring Katusha (to be confirmed on first rest day of TDF-will be ploughing their sponsorship in van der Poel at the olympics) ruling out one of the options and the toxic atmosphere at Dimension Data (who will be rebranding anyway)whom I had suggested earlier in the year.

Surely we would get an Irish version of Viviani's national championship jersey that he wore at the Giro:eek:

Diarmuid · 08-07-2019 11:57am

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

As good a rumour as any I suppose

https://twitter.com/SSbike/status/1148158619206242305

Talk about a high pressure environment. It's a team with potential for a lot of wins. Just don't disappoint Patrick.

RobFowl · 08-07-2019 12:01pm

Diarmuid wrote: »

Talk about a high pressure environment. It's a team with potential for a lot of wins. Just don't disappoint Patrick.

It's Pro sport at the highest level, pressure is inevitable.
Sam has shown he can deal with pressure and adversity in the past and with non selection this year (despite being Bora's top performer).
He will succeed if goes to QS.

Lusk_Doyle · 08-07-2019 12:40pm

RobFowl wrote: »

It's Pro sport at the highest level, pressure is inevitable.
Sam has shown he can deal with pressure and adversity in the past and with non selection this year (despite being Bora's top performer).
He will succeed if goes to QS.

He's not strictly their top performer this year though. Both Sagan and Ackermann are significantly ahead of him in terms of UCI points won. He may have a couple of more stage wins than Ackermann and a good few more than Sagan but that just isn't enough obviously.

RobFowl · 08-07-2019 1:07pm

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

He's not strictly their top performer this year though. Both Sagan and Ackermann are significantly ahead of him in terms of UCI points won. He may have a couple of more stage wins than Ackermann and a good few more than Sagan but that just isn't enough obviously.

It's all about them wins baby
Sam has won more and won consistently.
Down in points because they haven't sent him to the bigger races for some reason....

nak · 08-07-2019 2:13pm

cunavalos wrote: »

There really are not a lot of better options out there and rumours circulating that Canyon and Alpecin will pull out of sponsoring Katusha (to be confirmed on first rest day of TDF-will be ploughing their sponsorship in van der Poel at the olympics)

Van der Poel just signed a 4 year ambassador deal with Canyon so would not be surprised to see that happen.

Lusk_Doyle · 08-07-2019 2:59pm

RobFowl wrote: »

It's all about them wins baby
Sam has won more and won consistently.
Down in points because they haven't sent him to the bigger races for some reason....

He's more wins this year than Vivianni.

CramCycle · 08-07-2019 3:23pm

Hes not sent to certain races for two reasons, Sagan being the poster boy being carried by Specialized, they pick where he goes, not the team as they pay his wage. The other is that Bora clearly play to certain crowds and geographically, an Irishman doesn't tick those boxes,a German one does.

TheBlaaMan · 10-07-2019 10:42am

The Eurosport guys weren't keen on the Bennett to DQS rumour yesterday and even suggested it wasnt a good idea for Sam, but its a done deal, it seems, with Partick Lefevre himself breaking cover yesterday.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/viviani-to-leave-deceuninck-quickstep-despite-tour-de-france-success/

10-07-2019 11:32am

Heard Smith and Blythe on about it yesterday and their comments as to why it wasn't a good move made no sense at all. Even if Viviani stays Sam would most likely get a better program next season.

Macy0161 · 10-07-2019 11:55am

Deleted User wrote: »

Heard Smith and Blythe on about it yesterday and their comments as to why it wasn't a good move made no sense at all. Even if Viviani stays Sam would most likely get a better program next season.

Yeah, watched that this morning and it made no sense.

I really didn't get the logic that he was in a good team, being supported now - but then was Smith at NetApp-Endura when Sam signed for them/ his first season there? Smith might have thrown Doug Ryder under the bus, but maybe relations are still good there....

Anyway, it'd be a brilliant move for Sam, and you wouldn't think there's be the same issues competing for places with Jakobsen and Hodeg. About the only negative would possibly be support in Milan-San Remo, and some of the cobbled races that I think he could have potential given how he can get over harder routes than most pure sprinters. But I've no idea if he's any interest in the other classics.

TheBlaaMan · 10-07-2019 12:31pm

Macy0161 wrote: »

I really didn't get the logic that he was in a good team, being supported now - but then was Smith at NetApp-Endura when Sam signed for them/ his first season there? Smith might have thrown Doug Ryder under the bus, but maybe relations are still good there....

I think you're crossing team there? Smith was at NetApp but moved to MTN Qhubeca (sp ?) where he fell out with Doug Ryder (who was never involved with NetApp/Bora).

Meanwhile, Alberto Contador definitely has a motor in his bike today.........

Macy0161 · 10-07-2019 12:38pm

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

I think you're crossing team there? Smith was at NetApp but moved to MTN Qhubeca (sp ?) where he fell out with Doug Ryder (who was never involved with NetApp/Bora).

I was trying to get at that NetApp evolved into Bora. He fell out with Doug Ryder, but maybe relations are still good with the guys in Bora.

It's about the only way I can understand his logic of Sam staying at Bora was a good thing!

Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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