AMD Zen Discussion Thread

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have a 8600k OC'd to 4.7ghz. Is there any point going the 3600 route or am i just wasting my time? I like shiny

3600 is just behind the 9600K for gaming beats it for productivity.

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Can a 3700x be paired with a b450? I thought it could. If so it reduces the price difference considerably.

Still near €150 in the difference. Which is quite a bit at that price point.

Wow, AMD delivers in a big way, first time since X2

shootermacg wrote: »

Bit worried about the PCIE 4 boards needing a fan for cooling. I might hold off and see if a passive solution comes.

Where do you guys buy your parts these days?

It shouldn't be a problem unless you're hammering the PCI lanes. Most of them only spin up when loaded.

I see a 3600x in my near future. My 3570k served me well, the 3770k cheapo upgrade I got recently has served me better but it's time to modernise I think.

Screw it, 10% off ebay. Pulled trigger on 3600x, msi tomohawk b450 and 16gb ram. $654 Australian dollary doos. That's me done for some time now or else my missus will disown me.

jebidiah wrote: »

Exciting stuff! I'm tempted to go from a 1600 & b350 to the new platform. Would I need to upgrade to a b450 board to get the most out of the new CPU?

I'd avoid B350, they just didn't have any good motherboards in general & the value isn't there compared to X370/B450.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Check your manufacturer website for the board and see if they have a new bios to support Zen 2 CPUs. If they do you'd be fine using it for a 3600/x or even 3700x for the time being. If you're looking at going for a big overclock down the line you could always ways upgrade that later but it's not really necessary right now.

I wouldn't buy a b350 new right now, but I also wouldn't brother upgrading if I had one and wasn't going for one of the higher end Zen 2 chips or looking at a massive overclock.

You'll be grand with your current bored, people are obsessed with vram and **** and to be honest, it makes feck all difference for 99.99999% of consumers.

Good point. I've been running my 1600 OC'd to 3.8GHz since I got it with no problems to VRM temps. Board is a Gigabyte B350 m gaming 3 which seems to be supported (bios download available with "3rd Gen AMD Ryzen CPU full support").

Although it might be easier to sell board and chip as a bundle and upgrade from there.

jebidiah wrote: »

Exciting stuff! I'm tempted to go from a 1600 & b350 to the new platform. Would I need to upgrade to a b450 board to get the most out of the new CPU?

My B350 motherboard is pretty much identical to the B450 version, yours might be too.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html

Availability doesn't seem to be spectacular at the moment, some sellers taking the proverbial - A 3900X is 734.00 Euro on Amazon Italy.

I am extremely tempted to move on from my quite frankly still excellent R7 1700, which has been running at 3.8 on all cores since day 1 (can go a bit higher but it's not worth the hassle in DTD tasks).

The X570 motherboards...besides the price, that little fan is actually a bit of a concern; As much as tech might have advanced, even "premium" manufacturers use cheap parts when it comes to fans (e.g. replaced fans on my Gigabyte G1, new ones started making the same rattling noise less than 6 months in); And...I'm old enough to remember when Northbridges had little whiny, high pitched fans on them. They inevitably failed leading to "ghetto" solutions - the sight of an 80mm fan strapped on top of the failed little one was not an uncommon sight on Socket 7 / Slot A / Socket A motherboards

I'm going to guess those chipset fans are not actually needed unless you've got a PCIe 4.0 SSD going full-out.
Hopefully I'm right on that

Precision boost - is this not available on the B450 MSI boards? Something about no voltage offset being available?

I was Gamers Nexus or Hardware unboxed would hurry up and post comparative gaming benchmarks for the 3600 and 3700X. I really want to see if the two extra cores will make much difference to gaming.

Any sign of a 3800x review yet? Would like to see if it overclocks any better than the 3700x otherwise it's pointless.

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly what I'm waiting for. It seems most reviewers didn't get the 3600. Gear Seekers showed numbers for the 3600 and they were very impressive.

That review seemed massively suspect to me. Gamers Nexus have a 3600 review and I'd be more inclined to trust that and the numbers just didn't tally.

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Honest question and you should obviously spend your money as you see fit but why? It's not as if these mobos allow massively more OC headroom.


Not trying to pee on your cornflakes at all, apologies if it seems that way - genuinely curious.

Doesn't sound like that at all and a good question .
Honestly I bought it as its pretty, while having the latest features and most of all NO silly fan (most other x570 boards are not good looking bar the asus one with the waterblock but I would prefer a monoblock when release hence why that was a non runner).
I probably wont even overclock the 3950x when I get it. I only had my 1950x overclocked for 2 months then when reset the bios for something never bothered setting it up again. I never overclocked my 1800x.
I don't expect any extra performance for it and its extreme overkill but why not if I have the cash.

Headshot wrote: »

Hey deceit what do you mean by "NO silly fan" ?

All of the other x570 boards have the little silly fan on them because of the pcie4 requirements.

deceit wrote: »

All of the other x570 boards have the little silly fan on them because of the pcie4 requirements.

wotzgoingon wrote: »

That Gigabyte board is the only one released so far that has passive cooling on the chipset all the other boards from all manufacturers have a fan.

Ah yes i've seen some videos of the X570 mobo's and know what you're talking about now.

I wasnt aware of the fans, good to know

supposedly the fan in the gigabyte x570 aorus master is quiet enough

is it always on or just when PCIe ramps up?

I see some of ye ordered 3700x from amazon uk but I'm getting this msg: This item does not ship to Ireland. Any other ryzen3000 available except 3700x