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    #1712
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    What?

    If Lawyers claim child porn was sent in emails - in a fairly high profile case like this - then it's likely media will report on that

    Don't demonise them for doing their job. The irony of bringing this up when the trial is about someone who literally spreads daily lies for money is mindblowing


    The lawyers reported it to the FBI. Then Jones went on his show and threatened one of the lawyers on Friday. On Monday, the Sandy Hook lawyers went to court as a result of the broadcast, not the cp. So it is onnly Jones to blame for it going public. Here is the content they describe as a threat in the filing.

    You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass. One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike. One million dollars, bitch. I’m going to get your ass, you understand me now? You’re not going to ever defeat Texas, you sacks of ****, so you get ready for that.



    And then now magically they want metadata out of hundreds of thousands of emails they got, and they know just where to go. What a nice group of Democrats. How surprising. What nice people. Chris Mattei. Chris Mattei. Let’s zoom in on Chris Mattei. Oh, nice little—[pounds picture of Attorney Mattei’s face with fist]—Chris Mattei. What a good American. What a good boy. You think you’ll put on me, what—[under his breath] I’m gonna kill . . . [growls]. Anyway, I’m done! Total war! You want it, you got it! I’m not into kids like your Democratic party, you cocksuckers! So get ready


    The cp facts were included as background in the filing. Incidentally, they also stated that if Jones' team had even performed minimal due diligence they would have found the images but it seems they didn't bother to review the material they were providing.


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    #1713
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.


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    #1714
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,258 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ipso wrote: »
    In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.

    you mean the pizza restaurant with the paedophile parties in the basement? the pizza restaurant that doesn't have a basement? that pizza restaurant?


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    #1715
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Ipso wrote: »
    In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.


    I just listened to that segment of his show. He says he can't be a child molester because he likes "big ol' titties". I think that's a direct quote.


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    #1716
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Ipso wrote: »
    In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.

    you mean the pizza restaurant with the paedophile parties in the basement? the pizza restaurant that doesn't have a basement? that pizza restaurant?

    Always with the Soros sound bites.


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    #1717
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,258 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ipso wrote: »
    Always with the Soros sound bites.

    so it does have a basement, is that what you are telling me? it is a pretty straightforward question, it either does or it doesn't.


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    #1718
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    It doesn’t matter. Everyone that disagrees with us is a pedophile. WWG1WGA


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    #1719
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,258 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ipso wrote: »
    It doesn’t matter. Everyone that disagrees with us is a pedophile. WWG1WGA

    so you are continuing to peddle something that even a nutter like jones backed away from. Go you.


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    #1720
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so you are continuing to peddle something that even a nutter like jones backed away from. Go you.

    Agh. My first comment was witty satire for the tin foil brigade.


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    #1721
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1140999133186207745


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    #1722
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you mean the pizza restaurant with the paedophile parties in the basement? the pizza restaurant that doesn't have a basement? that pizza restaurant?

    Yes that pizza restaurant, the same one that had a basement according to the owner in an interview with Metroweekly in 2015

    The same owner who denied having a basement in an interview with BBC two years later

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    #1723
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Yes that pizza restaurant, the same one that had a basement according to the owner in an interview with Metroweekly in 2015

    The same owner who denied having a basement in an interview with BBC two years later

    Wait, so if there is any misunderstanding here, that means the 4chan "started it for the lols" Clinton paedophile stuff is true?


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    #1724
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Wait, so if there is any misunderstanding here, that means the 4chan "started it for the lols" Clinton paedophile stuff is true?

    I wouldn't know about that,
    but I do know is that Bill Clinton was officially logged as having traveled on Paedophile Jeffrey Epsteins 'Lolita Express' plane no less than 26 times (you know, the one that all those underage girls were raped and molested on)


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    #1725
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    I wouldn't know about that,
    but I do know is that Bill Clinton was officially logged as having traveled on Paedophile Jeffrey Epsteins 'Lolita Express' plane no less than 26 times (you know, the one that all those underage girls were raped and molested on)

    You do realise that "Pizzagate" is a completely made-up theory, even Jones has disowned it


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    #1726
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1140999133186207745

    Why should we take the word of a Jones lackey, sounds like turd polishing to me. Anyway he admitted that the emails were in an infowars folder, guilt by association right there.


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    #1727
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1140999133186207745
    Well that's me convinced


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    #1728
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You do realise that "Pizzagate" is a completely made-up theory, even Jones has disowned it

    I thought Jones was a liar? Therefore why should we take anything he says seriously?

    Anyways off topic so last post on this,

    Whats interesting about 'Pizzagate' is the recent arrest of Tech writer 'Dr Pizza"

    Arrested for attempting to procure anal sex with a seven year old child

    Made many online cryptic references to 'pizza' going back well over a decade, I think now we know what he meant by 'pizza' in these instances

    So for this Paedophile at least, 'pizza' was a code for children

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    #1729
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Ipso wrote: »
    Why should we take the word of a Jones lackey, sounds like turd polishing to me.

    I never claimed you should do anything but dismissing information just because you don't like the source is absurd, particularly these days. All that matters is if the information is accurate or not.
    Anyway he admitted that the emails were in an infowars folder, guilt by association right there.

    Look, they were instructed to send any email they had which contained the term Sandy Hook to the lawyers of the parents (NOT the parents by the way) and it turned out that a dozen or so unopened ones contained the images. These emails were targeting Jones ffs. Guilt by association, don't make me laugh.


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    #1730
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I never claimed you should do anything but dismissing information just because you don't like the source is absurd, particularly these days. All that matters is if the information is accurate or not.



    Look, they were instructed to send any email they had which contained the term Sandy Hook to the lawyers of the parents (NOT the parents by the way) and it turned out that a dozen or so unopened ones contained the images. These emails were targeting Jones ffs. Guilt by association, don't make me laugh.

    He went after the family of dead children for less, I wouldn't be surprised if he was targeted for this but I don't give a f***. Jones and his idiot minstrels are a scummy shower of c***s and I hope he is tarnished with this. I will lose zero sleep over it.


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    #1731
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    I won't lose any sleep over it either but the truth still matters and just because someone is not liked (for justifiable reasons) does not make it okay to lie about them.


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    #1732
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

    People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

    In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

    He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

    So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.


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    #1733
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

    People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

    In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

    He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

    So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.


    That's not exactly right. He sent the required emails at first but not the metadata associated with them. They brought him back to court to get the metadata and he was ordered to provide it. Instead of just sending the metadata required, they then just sent everything they had without examining it. It's like if you were told to send all the pieces of paper in your bin but just dumped the bin on the floor of their office then complained when they tell you there was stuff in it that stained the carpet.


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    #1734
    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

    People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

    In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

    He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

    So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.

    Both sides are telling the truth??


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    #1735
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Both sides are telling the truth??

    The articles that I read on this were truthful. Jones responded to the lawyers publicly on infowars:
    Jones publicly responded on a broadcast of his show that he is being framed by Chris Mattei, the lawyer for the Sandy Hook families and went on making what Mattei and his law firm, Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder claim are threats against them.

    “You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast. “One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill …”

    While it looks like he is just making stuff up again, him sending the porn doesn't seem to have been illegal or malicious. MrFresh added more so I'll have to check that out.


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    #1736
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    MrFresh wrote: »
    That's not exactly right. He sent the required emails at first but not the metadata associated with them. They brought him back to court to get the metadata and he was ordered to provide it. Instead of just sending the metadata required, they then just sent everything they had without examining it. It's like if you were told to send all the pieces of paper in your bin but just dumped the bin on the floor of their office then complained when they tell you there was stuff in it that stained the carpet.

    I'll have to check that out as I don't fully know the rules on this.


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    #1737
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

    People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

    In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

    He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

    So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.

    Most likely the correct version, yet with a light dose of internet speculation it can be spun into almost anything, Jones is learning the hard way how conspiracy speculation can work against him as well as for. A taste of his own medicine so to speak


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    #1738
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    I'll have to check that out as I don't fully know the rules on this.


    You can read the filing here.


    https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/chris-mattei/


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    #1739
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    In related news, one of the father's of the slain Sandy Hook children has won a defamation case against the authors of a book entitled “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,”

    He, and others are currently part of several defamation cases against Alex Jones

    https://www.apnews.com/c595b9e6ccb84b969d59c5b270f58cce
    Robbie Parker, whose 6-year-old daughter Emilie was among 20 first-graders and six educators killed at Sandy Hook, spent years ignoring people who called him a crisis actor. His family moved to the West Coast, but still the harassment didn’t stop. He would get letters from people who found his address. He was once stopped in a parking garage by a man who berated him and said the shooting never happened.

    “You are taught when you are young that you ignore bullies and eventually they will leave you alone,” Parker said. “But as time went on, and my other girls were getting older, I realized they weren’t stopping and some of this was getting worse and getting more personal.”

    Parker is now part of a lawsuit against Jones, has testified before Congress and pushed for changes on social media platforms, such as YouTube, which announced this month it will prohibit videos that deny the Sandy Hook shooting and other “well-documented events.”


    “It wasn’t until the lawsuits and until it became a mainstream news story that people realized they were being complicit in this and started to moderate the content,” Parker said.
    “If Mr. Fetzer wants to believe that Sandy Hook never happened and that we are all crisis actors, even that my son never existed, he has the right to be wrong. But he doesn’t have the right to broadcast those beliefs if they defame me or harass me,” Pozner said. “He doesn’t have the right to use my baby’s image or our name as a marketing ploy to raise donations or sell his products. He doesn’t have the right to convince others to hunt my family.”


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    #1740
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    MrFresh wrote: »
    You can read the filing here.


    https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/chris-mattei/


    I would advise people to read this as it contains the actual legal document which has a lot more weight than those supplement salesmen that some people get their news from.


    MrFresh was correct a few posts back while I incorrectly gave Jones the benefit of the doubt.


    As the Court will recall, the Jones Defendants failed to produce email metadata, a necessary part of these documents, in their original production. The plaintiffs requested that the Jones Defendants be ordered to do so. In the April 30 hearing, counsel for the Jones Defendants agreed to make that production. The Jones Defendants produced metadata on May 21. They produced a massive volume of documents, indicating that many were non-responsive, but they said that they did not have time to cull the non-responsive documents.


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    #1741
    Former Observer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 474 ✭✭Former Observer


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    For this Paedophile at least, 'pizza' was a code for children

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    Interesting. My own feeling is that there was something to the whole Pizzagate thing. Sounds outlandish until you look into it but thats the whole point. Hiding in plain sight. The Elsagate stuff was weird too.


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