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Guy:Incognito · 17-06-2019 10:13pm

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1140703170458456066

Billy Mays · 17-06-2019 10:15pm

Are they real children or just actors?

MrFresh · 18-06-2019 6:39am

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1140703170458456066

Ah, so it was in the documents he handed over and he is now saying he must have been hacked and he knew nothing about it. Pretty weak excuse. That could be the end of him.

Former Observer · 18-06-2019 7:31am

MrFresh wrote: »

Ah, so it was in the documents he handed over and he is now saying he must have been hacked and he knew nothing about it. Pretty weak excuse. That could be the end of him.

Weak how? There are probably hundreds of thousands of unopened emails on his servers. I don't think anyone is suggesting he even knew about these images, no less ever looked at them.

MrFresh · 18-06-2019 7:47am

Former Observer wrote: »

Weak how? There are probably hundreds of thousands of unopened emails on his servers. I don't think anyone is suggesting he even knew about these images, no less ever looked at them.

The problem with that is that child porn offences are one of the few that require no intent or mens rea so he may still find himself on the end of a prosecution. The second issue is that you are supposed to know what you are handing over in discovery so you can ensure you have handed over everything required. Although it seems at least some of the images were embedded so that may provide some kind of out for him.

splashuum · 18-06-2019 9:57am

He had 9 million emails. 27 of them (unopened) contained child porn. Whoever suggests Alex knew about these emails is quite frankly dumb.

conorhal · 18-06-2019 10:25am

splashuum wrote: »

He had 9 million emails. 27 of them (unopened) contained child porn. Whoever suggests Alex knew about these emails is quite frankly dumb.

It's all about being able to publish a great big headline...

'Lawyers for Sandy Hook families say Alex Jones sent them child porn.'

The creepy degree to which the media now actively engage in the sort of propagana that would make the Soviet's blush with embarrasment is just disturbing at this stage.
No wonder the man wears a tin-foil hat. If this is how left wing activists operate then the gloaters on this thread need to take a good hard look at themselves. Anybody willing to go to those kind of lengths to smear a person are flat out psychotic.

ohnonotgmail · 18-06-2019 10:30am

Deleted User wrote: »

Jones hasn't been sectioned yet.

Yet.

Penn · 18-06-2019 10:38am

If Alex Jones has taught me anything it's that the idea that people sent those emails to Jones so he would be caught with them is a classic false flag, him denying having been in possession of them is an obvious lie, and any computer forensic expert who might prove Jones is innocent and never even opened the emails is just a crisis actor hired by Jones.

Dohnjoe · 18-06-2019 1:57pm

conorhal wrote: »

It's all about being able to publish a great big headline...

'Lawyers for Sandy Hook families say Alex Jones sent them child porn.'

The creepy degree to which the media now actively engage in the sort of propagana that would make the Soviet's blush with embarrasment is just disturbing at this stage.
No wonder the man wears a tin-foil hat. If this is how left wing activists operate then the gloaters on this thread need to take a good hard look at themselves. Anybody willing to go to those kind of lengths to smear a person are flat out psychotic.

What?

If Lawyers claim child porn was sent in emails - in a fairly high profile case like this - then it's likely media will report on that

Don't demonise them for doing their job. The irony of bringing this up when the trial is about someone who literally spreads daily lies for money is mindblowing

MrFresh · 18-06-2019 2:30pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

What?

If Lawyers claim child porn was sent in emails - in a fairly high profile case like this - then it's likely media will report on that

Don't demonise them for doing their job. The irony of bringing this up when the trial is about someone who literally spreads daily lies for money is mindblowing

The lawyers reported it to the FBI. Then Jones went on his show and threatened one of the lawyers on Friday. On Monday, the Sandy Hook lawyers went to court as a result of the broadcast, not the cp. So it is onnly Jones to blame for it going public. Here is the content they describe as a threat in the filing.

You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass. One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike. One million dollars, bitch. I’m going to get your ass, you understand me now? You’re not going to ever defeat Texas, you sacks of ****, so you get ready for that.

And then now magically they want metadata out of hundreds of thousands of emails they got, and they know just where to go. What a nice group of Democrats. How surprising. What nice people. Chris Mattei. Chris Mattei. Let’s zoom in on Chris Mattei. Oh, nice little—[pounds picture of Attorney Mattei’s face with fist]—Chris Mattei. What a good American. What a good boy. You think you’ll put on me, what—[under his breath] I’m gonna kill . . . [growls]. Anyway, I’m done! Total war! You want it, you got it! I’m not into kids like your Democratic party, you cocksuckers! So get ready

The cp facts were included as background in the filing. Incidentally, they also stated that if Jones' team had even performed minimal due diligence they would have found the images but it seems they didn't bother to review the material they were providing.

Ipso · 18-06-2019 2:32pm

In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.

ohnonotgmail · 18-06-2019 2:34pm

Ipso wrote: »

In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.

you mean the pizza restaurant with the paedophile parties in the basement? the pizza restaurant that doesn't have a basement? that pizza restaurant?

MrFresh · 18-06-2019 2:38pm

Ipso wrote: »

In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.

I just listened to that segment of his show. He says he can't be a child molester because he likes "big ol' titties". I think that's a direct quote.

Ipso · 18-06-2019 2:58pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Ipso wrote: »

In fairness Alex doesn’t own a pizza restaurant and has no links to the Clintons, only then can you specculate.

you mean the pizza restaurant with the paedophile parties in the basement? the pizza restaurant that doesn't have a basement? that pizza restaurant?

Always with the Soros sound bites.

ohnonotgmail · 18-06-2019 3:25pm

Ipso wrote: »

Always with the Soros sound bites.

so it does have a basement, is that what you are telling me? it is a pretty straightforward question, it either does or it doesn't.

Ipso · 18-06-2019 3:28pm

It doesn’t matter. Everyone that disagrees with us is a pedophile. WWG1WGA

ohnonotgmail · 18-06-2019 3:33pm

Ipso wrote: »

It doesn’t matter. Everyone that disagrees with us is a pedophile. WWG1WGA

so you are continuing to peddle something that even a nutter like jones backed away from. Go you.

Ipso · 18-06-2019 3:34pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you are continuing to peddle something that even a nutter like jones backed away from. Go you.

Agh. My first comment was witty satire for the tin foil brigade.

Outlaw Pete · 18-06-2019 3:41pm

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1140999133186207745

Harvey Weinstein · 18-06-2019 4:09pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you mean the pizza restaurant with the paedophile parties in the basement? the pizza restaurant that doesn't have a basement? that pizza restaurant?

Yes that pizza restaurant, the same one that had a basement according to the owner in an interview with Metroweekly in 2015

The same owner who denied having a basement in an interview with BBC two years later

Dohnjoe · 18-06-2019 4:12pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Yes that pizza restaurant, the same one that had a basement according to the owner in an interview with Metroweekly in 2015

The same owner who denied having a basement in an interview with BBC two years later

Wait, so if there is any misunderstanding here, that means the 4chan "started it for the lols" Clinton paedophile stuff is true?

Harvey Weinstein · 18-06-2019 4:17pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Wait, so if there is any misunderstanding here, that means the 4chan "started it for the lols" Clinton paedophile stuff is true?

I wouldn't know about that,
but I do know is that Bill Clinton was officially logged as having traveled on Paedophile Jeffrey Epsteins 'Lolita Express' plane no less than 26 times (you know, the one that all those underage girls were raped and molested on)

Dohnjoe · 18-06-2019 4:21pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

I wouldn't know about that,
but I do know is that Bill Clinton was officially logged as having traveled on Paedophile Jeffrey Epsteins 'Lolita Express' plane no less than 26 times (you know, the one that all those underage girls were raped and molested on)

You do realise that "Pizzagate" is a completely made-up theory, even Jones has disowned it

Ipso · 18-06-2019 4:23pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1140999133186207745

Why should we take the word of a Jones lackey, sounds like turd polishing to me. Anyway he admitted that the emails were in an infowars folder, guilt by association right there.

Billy Mays · 18-06-2019 4:32pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1140999133186207745

Well that's me convinced

Harvey Weinstein · 18-06-2019 4:37pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You do realise that "Pizzagate" is a completely made-up theory, even Jones has disowned it

I thought Jones was a liar? Therefore why should we take anything he says seriously?

Anyways off topic so last post on this,

Whats interesting about 'Pizzagate' is the recent arrest of Tech writer 'Dr Pizza"

Arrested for attempting to procure anal sex with a seven year old child

Made many online cryptic references to 'pizza' going back well over a decade, I think now we know what he meant by 'pizza' in these instances

So for this Paedophile at least, 'pizza' was a code for children

Outlaw Pete · 18-06-2019 4:46pm

Ipso wrote: »

Why should we take the word of a Jones lackey, sounds like turd polishing to me.

I never claimed you should do anything but dismissing information just because you don't like the source is absurd, particularly these days. All that matters is if the information is accurate or not.

Anyway he admitted that the emails were in an infowars folder, guilt by association right there.

Look, they were instructed to send any email they had which contained the term Sandy Hook to the lawyers of the parents (NOT the parents by the way) and it turned out that a dozen or so unopened ones contained the images. These emails were targeting Jones ffs. Guilt by association, don't make me laugh.

Ipso · 18-06-2019 4:54pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I never claimed you should do anything but dismissing information just because you don't like the source is absurd, particularly these days. All that matters is if the information is accurate or not.

Look, they were instructed to send any email they had which contained the term Sandy Hook to the lawyers of the parents (NOT the parents by the way) and it turned out that a dozen or so unopened ones contained the images. These emails were targeting Jones ffs. Guilt by association, don't make me laugh.

He went after the family of dead children for less, I wouldn't be surprised if he was targeted for this but I don't give a f***. Jones and his idiot minstrels are a scummy shower of c***s and I hope he is tarnished with this. I will lose zero sleep over it.

Outlaw Pete · 18-06-2019 4:56pm

I won't lose any sleep over it either but the truth still matters and just because someone is not liked (for justifiable reasons) does not make it okay to lie about them.

mcmoustache · 18-06-2019 5:33pm

From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.

MrFresh · 18-06-2019 5:39pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.

That's not exactly right. He sent the required emails at first but not the metadata associated with them. They brought him back to court to get the metadata and he was ordered to provide it. Instead of just sending the metadata required, they then just sent everything they had without examining it. It's like if you were told to send all the pieces of paper in your bin but just dumped the bin on the floor of their office then complained when they tell you there was stuff in it that stained the carpet.

_blaaz · 18-06-2019 5:39pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.

Both sides are telling the truth??

mcmoustache · 18-06-2019 5:56pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Both sides are telling the truth??

The articles that I read on this were truthful. Jones responded to the lawyers publicly on infowars:

Jones publicly responded on a broadcast of his show that he is being framed by Chris Mattei, the lawyer for the Sandy Hook families and went on making what Mattei and his law firm, Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder claim are threats against them.

“You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast. “One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill …”

While it looks like he is just making stuff up again, him sending the porn doesn't seem to have been illegal or malicious. MrFresh added more so I'll have to check that out.

mcmoustache · 18-06-2019 5:58pm

MrFresh wrote: »

That's not exactly right. He sent the required emails at first but not the metadata associated with them. They brought him back to court to get the metadata and he was ordered to provide it. Instead of just sending the metadata required, they then just sent everything they had without examining it. It's like if you were told to send all the pieces of paper in your bin but just dumped the bin on the floor of their office then complained when they tell you there was stuff in it that stained the carpet.

I'll have to check that out as I don't fully know the rules on this.

Dohnjoe · 18-06-2019 6:00pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

From my understanding this is actually quite simple.

People sent kiddie porn to infowars/Jones.

In his current trial where he is being sued for defamation or whatever, he was required to send all emails sent and received during a certain time period to the lawyers representing the Sandy Hook parent(s). This is normal in litigation.

He sent them those emails as required by law and they included the kiddie porn. The lawyers informed the FBI.

So yeah, he sent kiddie porn to the lawyers but it was part of a legal obligation and not some malicious act.

Most likely the correct version, yet with a light dose of internet speculation it can be spun into almost anything, Jones is learning the hard way how conspiracy speculation can work against him as well as for. A taste of his own medicine so to speak

MrFresh · 18-06-2019 6:00pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

I'll have to check that out as I don't fully know the rules on this.

You can read the filing here.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/chris-mattei/

Dohnjoe · 18-06-2019 6:50pm

In related news, one of the father's of the slain Sandy Hook children has won a defamation case against the authors of a book entitled “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,”

He, and others are currently part of several defamation cases against Alex Jones

https://www.apnews.com/c595b9e6ccb84b969d59c5b270f58cce

Robbie Parker, whose 6-year-old daughter Emilie was among 20 first-graders and six educators killed at Sandy Hook, spent years ignoring people who called him a crisis actor. His family moved to the West Coast, but still the harassment didn’t stop. He would get letters from people who found his address. He was once stopped in a parking garage by a man who berated him and said the shooting never happened.

“You are taught when you are young that you ignore bullies and eventually they will leave you alone,” Parker said. “But as time went on, and my other girls were getting older, I realized they weren’t stopping and some of this was getting worse and getting more personal.”

Parker is now part of a lawsuit against Jones, has testified before Congress and pushed for changes on social media platforms, such as YouTube, which announced this month it will prohibit videos that deny the Sandy Hook shooting and other “well-documented events.”

“It wasn’t until the lawsuits and until it became a mainstream news story that people realized they were being complicit in this and started to moderate the content,” Parker said.

“If Mr. Fetzer wants to believe that Sandy Hook never happened and that we are all crisis actors, even that my son never existed, he has the right to be wrong. But he doesn’t have the right to broadcast those beliefs if they defame me or harass me,” Pozner said. “He doesn’t have the right to use my baby’s image or our name as a marketing ploy to raise donations or sell his products. He doesn’t have the right to convince others to hunt my family.”

mcmoustache · 18-06-2019 7:52pm

MrFresh wrote: »

You can read the filing here.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/chris-mattei/

I would advise people to read this as it contains the actual legal document which has a lot more weight than those supplement salesmen that some people get their news from.

MrFresh was correct a few posts back while I incorrectly gave Jones the benefit of the doubt.

As the Court will recall, the Jones Defendants failed to produce email metadata, a necessary part of these documents, in their original production. The plaintiffs requested that the Jones Defendants be ordered to do so. In the April 30 hearing, counsel for the Jones Defendants agreed to make that production. The Jones Defendants produced metadata on May 21. They produced a massive volume of documents, indicating that many were non-responsive, but they said that they did not have time to cull the non-responsive documents.

Former Observer · 18-06-2019 8:33pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

For this Paedophile at least, 'pizza' was a code for children

Interesting. My own feeling is that there was something to the whole Pizzagate thing. Sounds outlandish until you look into it but thats the whole point. Hiding in plain sight. The Elsagate stuff was weird too.

mcmoustache · 18-06-2019 10:01pm

Former Observer wrote: »

Interesting. My own feeling is that there was something to the whole Pizzagate thing. Sounds outlandish until you look into it but thats the whole point. Hiding in plain sight. The Elsagate stuff was weird too.

You should check out the QAnon stuff and flat earth theory as that's clearly where you're headed.

Dohnjoe · 18-06-2019 11:51pm

Former Observer wrote: »

Interesting. My own feeling is that there was something to the whole Pizzagate thing. Sounds outlandish until you look into it but thats the whole point. Hiding in plain sight. The Elsagate stuff was weird too.

"Looking into it" I am guessing involves going to sites that are full of selective convincing sounding bull****

Gimme A Pound · 19-06-2019 1:24am

conorhal wrote: »

It's all about being able to publish a great big headline...

'Lawyers for Sandy Hook families say Alex Jones sent them child porn.'

The creepy degree to which the media now actively engage in the sort of propagana that would make the Soviet's blush with embarrasment is just disturbing at this stage.
No wonder the man wears a tin-foil hat. If this is how left wing activists operate then the gloaters on this thread need to take a good hard look at themselves. Anybody willing to go to those kind of lengths to smear a person are flat out psychotic.

Ah here, your last bit describes exactly what Jones has done himself. Why no wonder he wears a tinfoil hat? He says that anyway, even without cause. And why are you so convinced it's a smear? Maybe it is - but I don't know.

ohnonotgmail · 19-06-2019 7:56am

conorhal wrote: »

It's all about being able to publish a great big headline...

'Lawyers for Sandy Hook families say Alex Jones sent them child porn.'

The creepy degree to which the media now actively engage in the sort of propagana that would make the Soviet's blush with embarrasment is just disturbing at this stage.
No wonder the man wears a tin-foil hat. If this is how left wing activists operate then the gloaters on this thread need to take a good hard look at themselves. Anybody willing to go to those kind of lengths to smear a person are flat out psychotic.

i think my irony meter has just exploded.