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  • #8252
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    No, they're not. Cyclists can be in whatever lane they choose.
    gavinoontheweb wrote: »
    A point I which I made in the proceeding sentence. The junction as a whole can be messy with peds and cyclists intersecting from different crossing points.

    I think Gavins point is the bike light applies to the cycle track, not the general traffic lane, ie if your in the general traffic lane, the bike light doesn't apply to you at that junction. Not that you have to be in the bike lane. Do I have that right? I always wondered, as there are junctions where this is clearly the case and others where it is ambiguous, does anyone know if there are regs for this or is it just a whatever suits kind of situation?


  • #8253
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,099 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    No, they're not. Cyclists can be in whatever lane they choose.

    I *think* what he means is that - to be allowed proceed on the green cyclist light (instead of the primary traffic light) then you need to be in the cycling lane.

    Not sure what the legal position actually is for those lights - do they cover cyclists in any lane, or just the cycle lane (where present)?


  • #8254
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Gavin, you do realise that the use of the word 'dedicated' in this context means 'only cycle traffic allowed' and not 'must use the cycle path'?

    Right??


  • #8255
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    You're going to have to cross the white line to pass one cyclist, so it really doesn't matter whether they are two or three abreast - you're still going to have to cross the line.

    The nub of the argument in a majority of debates like this and spot on for (re)posting it AndrewJRenko.

    There is a strong belief among motorists that if cyclists are in single file it is ok to pass by without crossing the white line or median of the road. Hence the real reason for motorists' annoyance around 2 or (God forbid) 3 abreast. All overtakes require crossing the central median to a degree, otherwise they are not safe - and if you're crossing the central median then it matters little whether it's 10 cms or 2 metres, it's not as if you can simply 'duck back into the lane if something is coming towards me because it's only a cyclist on my left after all'.

    To think that a motorist might believe it's ok to pass a cyclist 'in-lane' on a standard-width road is quite shocking.


  • #8256
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Yeah that seems to be the main argument about cyclists travelling 2 abreast. Many motorists just want to blast on regardless. Sure aren't they're in a car and we all know it's the most important vehicle on the road anyways.


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  • #8257
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Yeah that seems to be the main argument about cyclists travelling 2 abreast. Many motorists just want to blast on regardless. Sure aren't they're in a car and we all know it's the most important vehicle on the road anyways.

    Heaven forbid that they slow down for a few seconds in their massive rush to whatever pressing appointment that they simply must be at immediately.


  • #8258
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    MojoMaker wrote: »
    Gavin, you do realise that the use of the word 'dedicated' in this context means 'only cycle traffic allowed' and not 'must use the cycle path'?

    Right??

    I read it that he did get it


  • #8259
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Nearly got taken out twice yesterday while walking to my bus, 5 min walk only.


    One was a cyclist cycling with one hand on the handle bar and the other texting on his phone.


    2 mins later similar again but this time a driver on the phone in the car!!!


    Can we not put the phones down for a few mins!!!


  • #8260
    gavinoontheweb
    Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭gavinoontheweb


    blackwhite wrote: »
    I *think* what he means is that - to be allowed proceed on the green cyclist light (instead of the primary traffic light) then you need to be in the cycling lane.

    Not sure what the legal position actually is for those lights - do they cover cyclists in any lane, or just the cycle lane (where present)?
    MojoMaker wrote: »
    Gavin, you do realise that the use of the word 'dedicated' in this context means 'only cycle traffic allowed' and not 'must use the cycle path'?

    Right??


    Exactly, perhaps the terminology I used was a bit misleading. The point I'm getting is can a cyclist legally proceed on a green bike/ped crossing light if they are not exactly 'in line' with that light. Per the example going North on S.Beckett bridge.


  • #8261
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    average_runner wrote: »
    Nearly got taken out twice yesterday while walking to my bus, 5 min walk only.


    One was a cyclist cycling with one hand on the handle bar and the other texting on his phone.


    2 mins later similar again but this time a driver on the phone in the car!!!


    Can we not put the phones down for a few mins!!!

    No, we cannot. My office looks out onto a busy junction in Dublin CC. I'd say that on balance, more people use their phones when their cars are stopped at lights, than those that do not.


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  • #8262
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    I don't know how the cops haven't lifted this lad yet. He was flying it. He went through a red light just around the corner from here after that.

    https://streamable.com/4204v


  • #8263
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Utter Consternation wrote: »
    I don't know how the cops haven't lifted this lad yet. He was flying it. He went through a red light just around the corner from here after that.

    https://streamable.com/4204v




    There seems to be rules to for those things. At that speed he should have a helmet on him like motor cyclists do.


    Also to me they are a lazy form of cycling, getting the benefit of getting to a place quicker but no exercise.


  • #8264
    RobertFoster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I think Gavins point is the bike light applies to the cycle track, not the general traffic lane, ie if your in the general traffic lane, the bike light doesn't apply to you at that junction. Not that you have to be in the bike lane. Do I have that right? I always wondered, as there are junctions where this is clearly the case and others where it is ambiguous, does anyone know if there are regs for this or is it just a whatever suits kind of situation?
    I think you'd have to be in the cycle lane in order to proceed with the cycle lights, at least personally I err on the side of caution if there's any ambiguity.

    Ignoring bicycles for a moment, how would a bus in the driving lane proceed at this light on the Templeogue Rd? I think the light refers to the lane rather than the vehicle.


  • #8265
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,099 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    RobertFoster wrote: »
    I think you'd have to be in the cycle lane in order to proceed with the cycle lights, at least personally I err on the side of caution if there's any ambiguity.

    Ignoring bicycles for a moment, how would a bus in the driving lane proceed at this light on the Templeogue Rd? I think the light refers to the lane rather than the vehicle.

    Badly constructed light anyway - the "Bus" light should really be on left hand side of the light (matching the lane position) - like on N11

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2943173,-6.2026886,3a,61y,160.18h,99.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN7baGOUYW5I7NECnfMt70Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


  • #8266
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    RobertFoster wrote: »
    I think you'd have to be in the cycle lane in order to proceed with the cycle lights, at least personally I err on the side of caution if there's any ambiguity.

    Ignoring bicycles for a moment, how would a bus in the driving lane proceed at this light on the Templeogue Rd? I think the light refers to the lane rather than the vehicle.

    I think that light is sensored so busses trigger a red light for traffic, but oddly it still goes red when there aren't busses around, resulting in lots of people ignoring it, in the mornings anyway.

    A couple of years back I was at the top of the queue one morning and the guy behind started beeping and waving for me to just go through. I almost never drive in rush hour so I considered maybe I didnt know something he did, was it broken maybe? I erred on the side of caution and moved forward a few feet, allowing him to undertake. He flipped me the middle finger as he passed straight through the red, followed by 3 or 4 others, all irate. Well except the last car, he looked quite smug, and he had these little flashy blue lights. :D Up there as one of the best days of my life.


  • #8267
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    My understanding is that when its just the green, the bus lane treats it as a yield, hence the triangle, and then the bus lane has priority when only the green bus sign is illuminated. It applies to the lane though, not just for buses, so taxis and cyclists can also proceed on it. The N11 one s funny because alot of cyclists sit under the light and don't see it, looking across the junction, so think you are breaking a light when you go through.


  • #8268
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    CramCycle wrote: »
    and then the bus lane has priority when only the green bus sign is illuminated.

    I think its just an exclusive filter. Just like a red light with a green left filter.


  • #8269
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Utter Consternation wrote: »
    Heaven forbid that they slow down for a few seconds in their massive rush to whatever pressing appointment that they simply must be at immediately.

    Usually the massive rush to the back of the next queue of cars


  • #8270
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    RobertFoster wrote: »
    I think you'd have to be in the cycle lane in order to proceed with the cycle lights, at least personally I err on the side of caution if there's any ambiguity.

    Do the little bike lights actually exist in law? They are mentioned in ROTR page 105 but I'm wondering if they exist in law at all.

    It seemed to me like this cyclist got a raw deal at the time

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/four-gardai-needed-to-put-arrogant-cyclist-in-cell-court-told-376308.html


  • #8271
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Do the little bike lights actually exist in law? They are mentioned in ROTR page 105 but I'm wondering if they exist in law at all.

    It seemed to me like this cyclist got a raw deal at the time

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/four-gardai-needed-to-put-arrogant-cyclist-in-cell-court-told-376308.html

    I don't think he did, he was swerving all over the road, apparently drunk and from that brief article, got a fair deal after being such a lout.


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  • #8272
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Do the little bike lights actually exist in law? They are mentioned in ROTR page 105 but I'm wondering if they exist in law at all.

    Yes, RTS 007, RTS 006 in regulation.

    And cited in acts as such:
    “(3) A pedal cyclist facing traffic sign number RTS 006 or RTS 007 (cycle traffic lights) in which one lamp is lit and which shows a symbol of a pedal cycle in green, may proceed beyond that traffic sign provided no other road user is endangered.


  • #8273
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    provided no other road user is endangered
    This answers my follow on Q about the shared lights with pedestrians, it causes agro on the canal way all the time because some people cannot help acting the pr1ck


  • #8274
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    ED E wrote: »
    Yes, RTS 007, RTS 006 in regulation.

    And cited in acts as such:

    Thanks, very helpful. I wonder about the legal definition of 'facing'. There is about 1m between the bike lane and the road at the Guild St side of the bridge. Am I REALLY not 'facing' the bike light when I'm at the edge of the road?


  • #8275
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What exactly does it say in the RTA?


  • #8276
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    What exactly does it say in the RTA?
    See https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110378012&postcount=8272


  • #8277
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I don't think he did, he was swerving all over the road, apparently drunk and from that brief article, got a fair deal after being such a lout.


    Sounds fairly makey-uppey to me - no dashcam, no blood alcohol level - just vague, non-specific allegations. Maybe he was 'facing' the little light, so maybe he was actually within the law, and found himself trying to explain that to four Gardai displaying all the prejudices that we've all seen from Gardai all the time.


  • #8278
    queldy
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭queldy


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Sounds fairly makey-uppey to me - no dashcam, no blood alcohol level - just vague, non-specific allegations. Maybe he was 'facing' the little light, so maybe he was actually within the law, and found himself trying to explain that to four Gardai displaying all the prejudices that we've all seen from Gardai all the time.


    The whole story looks all very full of prejudices to me.
    If he was drunk and violent, the article should not have focused on his being a cyclist.
    Had to argue many times with "arrogant" garda, for being a cyclist myself too.
    The only way to deal with it is give up and accept everything they say (sad story yes); tried to reasonably explain to them my (our) point, there's no way you can explain.
    If they see you like "the cyclist", then you have no chance.
    In the specific, maybe the man was drunk, he was arrogant, he was violent. But i don't think this has nothing to do with being a cyclist, which is pretty much the focus of the article.


  • #8279
    Weepsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,934 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Sounds fairly makey-uppey to me - no dashcam, no blood alcohol level - just vague, non-specific allegations. Maybe he was 'facing' the little light, so maybe he was actually within the law, and found himself trying to explain that to four Gardai displaying all the prejudices that we've all seen from Gardai all the time.

    It's Dublin, I'd very well believe that someone was drunk and all over the place while cycling.

    Generally if you have that light too, the pedestrians have a light so if you're on the road youre probably cutting through pedestrians crossing which you might not be on the cycle path as they've already left the crossing.


  • #8280
    queldy
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭queldy


    And by the way, many times it has been witnessed by us some very wrong behaviaour on the road by "drivers", and we are very much outraged when we see garda being present at the scene! If you ask them "why did you not intervene?" then you are answered that they are on some other duties!

    In this case then, is it fair to believe that they were on duty of "catching drunk cyclists?" Because if that is so, I wonder if there are more serious issues on the Irish road they should take care of...


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  • #8281
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,864 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Generally if you have that light too, the pedestrians have a light so if you're on the road youre probably cutting through pedestrians crossing which you might not be on the cycle path as they've already left the crossing.
    In my experience, this varies greatly from junction to junction. It works reasonably well along the canal, where most of the pedestrian traffic is going in parallel to the cyclists, so there is little enough conflict. It doesn't work well on Sam Beckett bridge in my experience, as much of the pedestrian traffic is crossing the direction of travel of the cyclists, leading to frequent conflicts.


  • #8282
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


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    I'm going to take a stab that the freeman esque drunken cyclist was crossing here or the far end of the same section. Not from Cork but seems like its the most applicable.


    Depending on direction of travel I can see how he'd be a "bloody cyclist". Facing isnt defined. Facing isnt defined but if using the road I can see how a judge would determine he wasnt facing it.


  • #8283
    hesker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭hesker


    ED E wrote: »

    I'm going to take a stab that the freeman esque drunken cyclist was crossing here or the far end of the same section. Not from Cork but seems like its the most applicable.


    Depending on direction of travel I can see how he'd be a "bloody cyclist". Facing isnt defined. Facing isnt defined but if using the road I can see how a judge would determine he wasnt facing it.

    There’s a similar crossing further up at junction between Anglesea St and South Terrace. It’s on my commute home and I regularly cross the junction from Hibernian Road.


  • #8284
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm in a decent sized town in France at the moment and there are cycle lanes everywhere, both on and off road. The on road lanes in the town are similar to Dublin, strip of paint, but the main difference is nobody parks vehicles in them. I saw a guy opening his door earlier and was about to hit the brakes when I noticed he was waiting for me to pass because he had actually checked the cycle lane in his mirror before getting out of his. And any cars that have been behind us have patiently waited to safely overtake us. No dangerous or punishments passes and nobody beeping. Makes for a very pleasant cycling experience.


  • #8285
    Duckjob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    downtheroad wrote: »
    I'm in a decent sized town in France at the moment and there are cycle lanes everywhere, both on and off road. The on road lanes in the town are similar to Dublin, strip of paint, but the main difference is nobody parks vehicles in them. I saw a guy opening his door earlier and was about to hit the brakes when I noticed he was waiting for me to pass because he had actually checked the cycle lane in his mirror before getting out of his. And any cars that have been behind us have patiently waited to safely overtake us. No dangerous or punishments passes and nobody beeping. Makes for a very pleasant cycling experience.

    Embarrassing to think some of the people from there who are used to receiving such courtesy and respect on the road might come to cycle in Ireland and have to deal with the cohort of aggressive spoiled monkey-children that make up a significant minority of our driving population.


  • #8286
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    downtheroad wrote: »
    I'm in a decent sized town in France at the moment and there are cycle lanes everywhere, both on and off road. The on road lanes in the town are similar to Dublin, strip of paint, but the main difference is nobody parks vehicles in them. I saw a guy opening his door earlier and was about to hit the brakes when I noticed he was waiting for me to pass because he had actually checked the cycle lane in his mirror before getting out of his. And any cars that have been behind us have patiently waited to safely overtake us. No dangerous or punishments passes and nobody beeping. Makes for a very pleasant cycling experience.

    It's the same in Spain, I'm off there again next week and can't wait. I know one can blame lack of enforcement up to a point but tbh I think as a race we have a somewhat feral opposition to authority and rules. And it is embarassing.

    Funny thing is, if people would open their eyes and realise that many European countries now have a year round tourist industry due to cycling, they might see it could actually benefit a lot of them.


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  • #8287
    Duckjob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    sy_flembeck wrote: »
    It's the same in Spain, I'm off there again next week and can't wait. I know one can blame lack of enforcement up to a point but tbh I think as a race we have a somewhat feral opposition to authority and rules. And it is embarassing.

    Actually I believe that consistent, long term lack of enforcement is key to why we are the way we are.

    I reckon the same behavioural principles are involved as with children and discipline. If your child misbehaves they need discipline to correct their bad behaviour. If they misbehave and are not disciplined, then the line of what is acceptable moves, and the behaviour becomes worse and more entitled.

    Adherence to rules on the road is just one area where We have had not nearly enough discipline for far too long. As a result we are essentially a nation of spoiled entitled children when it comes to rules.


  • #8288
    [Deleted User]
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    I forgot to say that I locked our 2 bikes yesterday with a cable lock you could probably chew through with your teeth and there was never any fear of coming back to a stolen or vandalised bike. They just have a different attitude here towards cyclists that doesn't exist in Ireland unfortunately.


  • #8289
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,384 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    downtheroad wrote: »
    I forgot to say that I locked our 2 bikes yesterday with a cable lock you could probably chew through with your teeth and there was never any fear of coming back to a stolen or vandalised bike. They just have a different attitude here towards cyclists that doesn't exist in Ireland unfortunately.
    Your town might be just unusually lacking thieves

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20180914/on-your-bike-how-france-plans-to-turn-commuters-into-cyclists
    According to a 2017 study by France’s National Observatory of Delinquency and Criminal Responses yearly bike thefts have remained at roughly 400,000 for the past fifteen years.

    A study by France’s Interior Ministry put the number at around 308,000 bike thefts in 2016, up from 248,000 in 2008, still clear evidence that bike theft in France is rife.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/scale-of-bicycle-theft-in-dublin-putting-people-off-cycling-1.3860235
    Mr Timoney, who has carried out research into bike theft in Dublin, said the scale of the problem is “broadly similar” to other European cities but that it could be driven down if better bike racks were installed.


  • #8290
    Duckjob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    downtheroad wrote: »
    I forgot to say that I locked our 2 bikes yesterday with a cable lock you could probably chew through with your teeth and there was never any fear of coming back to a stolen or vandalised bike. They just have a different attitude here towards cyclists that doesn't exist in Ireland unfortunately.

    The thing is though, I'm sure there's plenty of drivers in France as well who think "bloody cyclists". The difference is that they seem to have the maturity not to let their prejudices impact on their own driving standard and duty of care to others. We're seriously lacking such maturity of thinking and the resulting difference is glaringly obvious.


  • #8291
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,099 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Duckjob wrote: »
    The thing is though, I'm sure there's plenty of drivers in France as well who think "bloody cyclists". The difference is that they seem to have the maturity not to let their prejudices impact on their own driving standard and duty of care to others. We're seriously lacking such maturity of thinking and the resulting difference is glaringly obvious.

    Having driven and cycled in France extensively (cycling was largely in the IDF region), I’d say it’s more that the standard of driving is pretty damn aggressive towards other drivers, but surprisingly good when interacting with pedestrians or cyclists in ordinary situations.

    The one caveat is that this courtesy only seems to be extended to when the cyclist or pedestrian is behaving within the law. Any instances of jay-walking, or crossing on red from cyclists seemed to inspire the french motorists to accelerate to “teach a lesson”


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  • #8292
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    So many impatient and reckless motorists overtaking on the last 20km or so on the Wicklow 200 route today. Must have hit peak dominoes pizza / spice bag time, such was the urgency....

    Stand out one was the retard who went around the traffic calming islands, onto the opposite side of the road and into oncoming traffic. All to get around a few people on bikes....


  • #8293
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    Coast road south of Newcastle, Co. Wicklow, this morning and I had started to encounter participants of the Wicklow 200. Then around a blind bend comes this individual. Moved slightly out hoping he'd see sense - no. Then put my right arm out in a shocked 'WTF' motion and had to whip it in because he'd have taken it with him. Poor lad coming against me minding his own business.

    This road is a busy spot for pedestrians, dog walkers and runners.

    Obviously, I can't say whether or not he was a part of the support for the WW200


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zyaj0iKIJ0


  • #8294
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    downtheroad wrote: »
    I'm in a decent sized town in France at the moment and there are cycle lanes everywhere, both on and off road. The on road lanes in the town are similar to Dublin, strip of paint, but the main difference is nobody parks vehicles in them. I saw a guy opening his door earlier and was about to hit the brakes when I noticed he was waiting for me to pass because he had actually checked the cycle lane in his mirror before getting out of his. And any cars that have been behind us have patiently waited to safely overtake us. No dangerous or punishments passes and nobody beeping. Makes for a very pleasant cycling experience.




    Yeah a big difference in France is that everyone respects each other, cycle lanes are share with pedestrians in some areas and it still works well.


    Here its one for all and all for one!!


  • #8295
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    sy_flembeck wrote: »
    Coast road south of Newcastle, Co. Wicklow, this morning and I had started to encounter participants of the Wicklow 200. Then around a blind bend comes this individual. Moved slightly out hoping he'd see sense - no. Then put my right arm out in a shocked 'WTF' motion and had to whip it in because he'd have taken it with him. Poor lad coming against me minding his own business.

    This road is a busy spot for pedestrians, dog walkers and runners.

    Obviously, I can't say whether or not he was a part of the support for the WW200


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zyaj0iKIJ0




    Roads like that are so dangerous to run on, I avoid them as much as possible.


  • #8296
    Polar wizard adventure
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Polar wizard adventure


    https://streamable.com/8rdse

    650 lumens flashing on the front of the bike. Took the sound out to save your ears.


  • #8297
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    I’m absolutely done reporting anything to gardai. Bloke going through rathmines last week texting caught me looking in. Gave me the finger and shouted **** off when I motioned to put the phone down. He spots the camera, and 500m up the road he catches up to me, begins to threaten me, asking me to show him the camera, while also taking photos of me on his phone, while driving. Drivers behind began beeping so he said he wanted to pull in and have a chat. He speeds up the road, pulls across cycle track and footpath, essentially blocking me. I stopped about 100ft short of him and held my ground. He gets out starts shouting again, threatening me, etc. I’ve no interest in “chatting” so I just turned around and cycled away. He went back to his car. I stop, attempt to continue and he gets out again and walks towards me. I tell him to **** off and leave it, he keeps coming. This is a well dressed bloke in a decent car, not your average scum bag. **** it, im 200ft from the Garda station so I head there. He drives off, I happen to catch a garda leaving the station. He’s properly interested, will have a chat, maybe even fcpn for phone and or parking on path/cycle track. Asks me to send him everything.

    Two weeks go by and he calls. Couldn’t view the video so it’s a “he says vs you says” thing. I say I’ll drop the video in on a usb/dvd/vhs/whatever, but he says well the car isn’t registered to him and he doesn’t live in the district so there’s really nothing that can be done.

    ****ing wonderful that they’ve got your back.

    Next time at least I know I don’t have to stay above board, I can flatten the ****er because I don’t live in the district and the bike isn’t registered to me.
    droidus wrote: »
    Wouldn't normally say this, but I think you have to take this one further. The guy is clearly a psychopath...

    Well it's been a while, but to follow up... I escalated this and managed to get in touch with a sergeant in the station. As much as I hate to say 'luckily'... Luckily he was a cyclist and ex-mountain bike patrol. Completely understood my frustration. Organised to have the footage dropped in. He kept me updated via email while they were attempting to identify who was driving and get an address.

    Called yesterday and they're satisfied with identification and address. Offered court or caution. After spending a morning in traffic court last year and seeing how it all works, I opted for caution. I'm 15 years commuting in and out of the city and I was shook by the incident, I'm thinking more from the perspective of what if that was someone on a bike for 2 months, they'd probably never cycle again. All I wanted was this lad to be taken down a peg and told he can't be pulling that sh*t. So it's a caution, and unless he decides himself that he did no wrong, in which case the Sergeant said he'd happily prosecute and bring him to court.


  • #8298
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Well it's been a while, but to follow up... I escalated this and managed to get in touch with a sergeant in the station. As much as I hate to say 'luckily'... Luckily he was a cyclist and ex-mountain bike patrol. Completely understood my frustration. Organised to have the footage dropped in. He kept me updated via email while they were attempting to identify who was driving and get an address.

    Called yesterday and they're satisfied with identification and address. Offered court or caution. After spending a morning in traffic court last year and seeing how it all works, I opted for caution. I'm 15 years commuting in and out of the city and I was shook by the incident, I'm thinking more from the perspective of what if that was someone on a bike for 2 months, they'd probably never cycle again. All I wanted was this lad to be taken down a peg and told he can't be pulling that sh*t. So it's a caution, and unless he decides himself that he did no wrong, in which case the Sergeant said he'd happily prosecute and bring him to court.
    Great result WUG.


  • #8299
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Well done!


  • #8300
    tommythecat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Fair play

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  • #8301
    homer911
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,149 ✭✭✭homer911


    Not quite a near miss but very weird behavior..
    I was on the N11 inbound this morning, just passed UCD and heading for the Nutley lane junction. An 84X (regular double decker) passed me out at speed and proceeded to mount the raised section of the bicycle lane with two wheels. He pulled back into the proper bus lane just before the flexi-poles that were put in after the death at that junction - either the driver was drunk or he was trying to avoid all the potholes around the drains on that section of road.

    It took me a moment to spot - I was trying to work out why the bus was leaning over...


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