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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    She was across a cycle lane before she had a green light.
    Now maybe I am wrong, but I am sure your not allowed to have your bike across a cycle lane to block it?

    She was momentarily ahead of the green, but 'block' seems like the wrong word. She was cycling, not blocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,499 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    p15574 wrote: »
    I feckin' hate when they do that. It's like you don't count, because you're on a bike, therefore you have to yield to their might

    Not only that, when they do pull out they always seem to just dawdle along. Put the foot down!


  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Worst one I've had in that situation was a clown behind me flashing for someone to pull out like I have eyes in the back of my head and can see that? Or that I didn't exist. Only clue I got that it was about to happen was the driver waved in thanks before starting pulling out so I had to hit the breaks which resulted in a beep from the gobsh1te behind me. Actually that was the last time I stopped for 'words' with someone. I'd not have bothered if not for the beep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Interesting commute home this evening from Tara street to west dublin.

    Pulled out of my office at about 6.45 - always anxious to use the bus lane on the quays before private motorists have a free for all. Anyway went like this

    BMW no 1 - 5 series

    Obviously aggrieved by my cheek in filtering left while he was stuck at a red, proceeded to bully me all the way up poolbeg st to the quays lots of revving. Used the bus lane then muscled In at the advance bike stop at O’connell bridge. Proceeds up the bus lane, tailgating me and fellow cyclists, then weaves in and out of the traffic and bus land in an effort to gain a few seconds. Passed him stuck at a red further on. Quick head shake at him. A well.

    BMW no 2 - x5

    Can You are a pattern here? Anyway I was now in Castleknock and came upon this guy parked across the bike advance box and ped crossing at the Filling station in Castleknock. I filed left and of course he couldn’t let it go without close passing me at well in Excess of the 50 kph limit. As he passed me, he did the same to a cyclist in front of me at the roundabout just before the m50 flyover. Passed him within inches despite no traffic coming the other way. Lots of verbal abuse from our x5 driver, who slowed and swerved in front of the cyclist. I witnessed the whole thing - pretty ugly.

    He (the cyclist) was visibly shaking and trembling when I got to him. Swapped details and said I’m happy to go as a witness if he reports. Also swapped email address and said I will forward my rear facing camera footage which demonstrated the scummy carry on me by mister x5. Would have missed his own particular encounter as I have a rear facing camera only.

    Some absolute scum bags on the roads these days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Interesting commute home this evening from Tara street to west dublin.

    Pulled out of my office at about 6.45 - always anxious to use the bus lane on the quays before private motorists have a free for all. Anyway went like this

    BMW no 1 - 5 series

    Obviously aggrieved by my cheek in filtering left while he was stuck at a red, proceeded to bully me all the way up poolbeg st to the quays lots of revving. Used the bus lane then muscled In at the advance bike stop at O’connell bridge. Proceeds up the bus lane, tailgating me and fellow cyclists, then weaves in and out of the traffic and bus land in an effort to gain a few seconds. Passed him stuck at a red further on. Quick head shake at him. A well.

    BMW no 2 - x5

    Can You are a pattern here? Anyway I was now in Castleknock and came upon this guy parked across the bike advance box and ped crossing at the Filling station in Castleknock. I filed left and of course he couldn’t let it go without close passing me at well in Excess of the 50 kph limit. As he passed me, he did the same to a cyclist in front of me at the roundabout just before the m50 flyover. Passed him within inches despite no traffic coming the other way. Lots of verbal abuse from our x5 driver, who slowed and swerved in front of the cyclist. I witnessed the whole thing - pretty ugly.

    He (the cyclist) was visibly shaking and trembling when I got to him. Swapped details and said I’m happy to go as a witness if he reports. Also swapped email address and said I will forward my rear facing camera footage which demonstrated the scummy carry on me by mister x5. Would have missed his own particular encounter as I have a rear facing camera only.

    Some absolute scum bags on the roads these days

    Doesn’t take a genius to see what the common denominator is, it’s you. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    buffalo wrote: »
    There's a small fortune to be made standing on that bridge pulling in drivers taking that left turn.
    When are you going to admit that you're exaggerating this issue;


    https://streamable.com/ua5v2


    The last guy in the Beamer was holding his phone up to mouth for a hands-free call, just to cap it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭hesker


    Had some b*itch in a 4x4 coming towards me turn across in front of me to take a right turn. She clearly saw me as she proceeded slowly but came right across my lane as I was approaching and forced me to swerve left around her. Missed me by a foot. Thought I was going to be hit for sure. There was no time to stop when I realised what she was doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    amcalester wrote: »
    Doesn’t take a genius to see what the common denominator is, it’s you. ;)

    Hah yeah. Using the roads reserved for bmw drivers. The cheek of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    I used be a BMW driver, but I'm all right now


  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I always find it amusing to see the old clapped out ones driven by people who are only driving them because it's a BMW they can afford and not because it was the best car they could have got for the money :D

    Give me and odd numbered model Audi any day of the week.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,725 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    an audi 36? that's an odd number model for an audi anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    I always find it amusing to see the old clapped out ones driven by people who are only driving them because it's a BMW they can afford and not because it was the best car they could have got for the money :D

    Give me and odd numbered model Audi any day of the week.

    Ah here, I wouldn't be championing buying an Audi in the middle of a discussion about ignorant self-entitled driving ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    There was a guy on a Dublin Bike arguing with a taxi driver on O'Connell Bridge this morning. The taxi driver had gotten out and was holding the whole place up. I asked the guy on the bike if he was ok and he said the taxi driver cut across him. This was all happening on going from south to north in the right turn lane after Westmoreland Street. Taxi number was *****.

    It was an elderly guy on the bike, seemed quite rattled. The taxi driver was being very nasty to him.

    I nearly got left hooked going up the hill towards Christ Church, but at this stage i'm used to that. Happens nearly every day. Stupid asshole turned on her indicator after she nearly knocked me down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    I used be a BMW driver, but I'm all right now



    The clinic helped you?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I drove this morning, drivers are as much &rs3h0l3s to each other as they are to cyclists apparently. The love of switching lanes without indicating, tail gating, moving into your braking space with no warning. I am going back to the bike ASAP, nothing is worth that annoyance.


  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sat up behind 3 cars and traffic stopped in the other direction to allow an artic manoeuvre and reverse into the entrance of a business.

    All going well, looks like a move the truck driver has done regularly. I'd say we've been stopped maybe a minute max. Cab is on our side and trailer perpendicular to the road so in a J or reverse L shape getting ready to straighten up for the final push back into the gate.

    Car number 1 in the queue sees an inviting gap there despite the now massive blindspot the truck driver has and his reverse lights being on which even from where I was I could see. Car decides to put two wheels up on the foot path and squeeze through the gap. But for the fact the second car stated to beep frantically the truck driver would not have had a clue this clown was trying to pass with mm to spare with the cab bearing down on him albeit slowly.

    Head shaking all around and 30 seconds later he's in and everyone is on their way again, and who is up ahead at a red light? Yup car number 1 :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    CramCycle wrote: »
    braking space

    Ha!...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Coming up through Swords Main St this afternoon, this lady in a jeep pulls out across my path while I'm doing about 30kph. I let an almighty roar and probably some expletives that had several people looking around.

    While I struggled to stop my bike fishtailing all over the place, she carried on her merry way to stop at the lights 50 yards up.

    I pulled up and knocked on her passenger window, said "Did you not see me Madam?" She just shakes her head blankly and says "I didnt see you". I told her she very nearly took me out. She didnt even seem aware of the crash she had nearly caused by her lack of attention.

    Anyway, I just asked if she could pay more attention next time and rode off. What else can you say ?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I wouldn't drive at 30kmph on Swords Main St let alone cycle that speed on it.
    There are always cars, bikes, pedestrians, sharks, cattle, everything, coming out between cars, jumping lights and not paying attention on that road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭CormacH94


    Went for a spin out to the parents in Enfield - cycling both ways on the Maynooth/Dunboyne road had so many close passes around all those nasty bends, a few overtakes were dangerously close to oncoming traffic, one to the point where the other car had to stop and pull in to avoid them, had me F'ing and blinding for the first time since I started cycling, couldn't believe it, it was like watching attempts at natural selection all for the sake of a couple seconds saved.

    Think I'll try to avoid the road as much as I can in the future, has me left a bit shook tbh.

    Really hope none of the drivers ever have to look someone in the eye and explain that they maimed/killed a loved one all because they wanted to shave a couple seconds off their journey.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭rushfan


    Something similar happened to me outside Centra on the main st on Weds, closest I ever came to being doored. Gave yerwan a piece of my mind, water off a ducks back to her. And I even had a front light on flash mode at the time.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    CormacH94 wrote: »
    Went for a spin out to the parents in Enfield - cycling both ways on the Maynooth/Dunboyne road had so many close passes around all those nasty bends, a few overtakes were dangerously close to oncoming traffic, one to the point where the other car had to stop and pull in to avoid them, had me F'ing and blinding for the first time since I started cycling, couldn't believe it, it was like watching attempts at natural selection all for the sake of a couple seconds saved.
    How close to the side of the road were you?
    When I cycle that stretch I tend to take the lane and let traffic pass when it is safe to do so.
    CormacH94 wrote: »
    Think I'll try to avoid the road as much as I can in the future, has me left a bit shook tbh.
    That's a pity because it's a nice route especially with the hill (Ash Hill?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭CormacH94


    How close to the side of the road were you?
    When I cycle that stretch I tend to take the lane and let traffic pass when it is safe to do so.


    That's a pity because it's a nice route especially with the hill (Ash Hill?)


    To be fair I probably should have been a bit more assertive, usually do but today I was being a bit optimistic I think


    It is a lovely route and good quality road, done it a few times now but the past two spins that direction just seem to be rife with close passing offenders, I wouldn't mind but the amount of signs with no overtaking for x km and the fact that most of the traffic that way would probably be fairly local and should really know the roads has left me a bit unnerved


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Similar experience in swords recently. "I didn't see you", followed by "I gave you plenty of space" and finishing with "why don't you use the path" :rolleyes:
    Duckjob wrote: »
    Coming up through Swords Main St this afternoon, this lady in a jeep pulls out across my path while I'm doing about 30kph. I let an almighty roar and probably some expletives that had several people looking around.

    While I struggled to stop my bike fishtailing all over the place, she carried on her merry way to stop at the lights 50 yards up.

    I pulled up and knocked on her passenger window, said "Did you not see me Madam?" She just shakes her head blankly and says "I didnt see you". I told her she very nearly took me out. She didnt even seem aware of the crash she had nearly caused by her lack of attention.

    Anyway, I just asked if she could pay more attention next time and rode off. What else can you say ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Lidl has pool noodles this week…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Similar experience in swords recently. "I didn't see you", followed by "I gave you plenty of space" and finishing with "why don't you use the path" :rolleyes:
    Duckjob wrote: »
    Coming up through Swords Main St this afternoon, this lady in a jeep pulls out across my path while I'm doing about 30kph. I let an almighty roar and probably some expletives that had several people looking around.

    While I struggled to stop my bike fishtailing all over the place, she carried on her merry way to stop at the lights 50 yards up.

    I pulled up and knocked on her passenger window, said "Did you not see me Madam?" She just shakes her head blankly and says "I didnt see you". I told her she very nearly took me out. She didnt even seem aware of the crash she had nearly caused by her lack of attention.

    Anyway, I just asked if she could pay more attention next time and rode off. What else can you say ?

    Must be something in the water this week. I was coming past Swords Business campus heading towards Applewood yesterday and taking the lane as it's a poxy little stretch for close passes. Can feel a car starting to creep past me, not too close but not ideal. Turned to give the driver the aul "Ah come on pal" look only to see her already staring at me like ive 10 heads. She completes the overtake and next thing her hand comes out the window and gives me the middle finger. Caught up to her less than 50 meters down the road at the red light she was racing too. Amazingly she was not so brave when we were face to face. Only a young one so no shouting or anything from me. More bizzare than dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Close pass this morning on Eden Quay just before Liberty Hall, I always take the lane there from the luas crossing to the lights before Custom House due to dozzy motorist swerving left from both lanes to go towards Gardiner St Lower. That didn’t stop this cretin in a 07 cream mini cooper from passing within 10cm despite no traffic in the overtaking lane to his right and all to stop at the lights 100m further up. Stopped at the lights for a chat and asked what was with the close pass and he said it was because I was in the centre of the lane and I need to keep in. When I explained that was on purpose to stop such motorists veering across without looking he said he was looking confirming my suspicions the pass was deliberate. He was stopped at that set of lights and again 250m later at the next set of lights after the Custom House so not like he gained any ground from the dangerous manoeuvre.
    I reported two close passes within 500m along the quays last year from the same driver with a phone to his ear and never heard back but maybe this time since the mini cooper’s NCT was expired since Feb 2019 they’ll actually do something and send on a few penalty points. If you’re going to act in a deliberate and dangerous manner drawing attention to yourself make sure your windscreen paper is in order.

    To update, got a couple of calls for a pleasant guard from Store St on this since the TrafficWatch report. In the first call I gave him the details and said if the driver had apologised and said he'd misjudged the over take that would have sufficed but because it was deliberate and the driver thought he'd done no wrong he needed speaking to. That they did and paid the driver a visit who collaborated my story that I was taking the lane so they informed him on the error of his ways and received an apology. Satisfactory outcome in my book so hopefully next time he'll think before trying to bully cyclists out of his path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/slow-cyclists-more-likely-to-be-involved-in-accidents-on-the-roads-a3145856.html
    Cycling slowly increases the risk of being involved in an accident by three-fold, research has found.
    A study by the University of Westminster found that faster riders were treated with more respect by drivers and were overtaken less frequently.
    But slower cyclists were found to be more vulnerable to near-misses. Riders travelling at 8mph or below were found to be involved in a higher number of traffic incidents than those cycling at 12mph or above.
    Women were found to be more likely to be involved in crashes than men, in part due to lower average speeds of cycling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Knob of a bus diver last Monday, first a stupidly close pass not the worst i've had but he was in the cycle lane then pulls into the bus stop blocking me :mad::mad:
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    This is why protected, separated cycling infrastructure is the only sensible way to go. If he'd risk hitting his skirts on nasty metal bollards or a kerb, he wouldn't be at this.

    Also: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bike-lane-cycling-road-safety-driver-deaths-fatalities-a8934841.html
    Bike lanes save lives of drivers as well as cyclists, study finds
    Cars slow down and those behind wheel are more aware of surroundings in areas with good cycling infrastructure, research reveals
    Installing protected bike lanes reduces deaths not only for cyclists but for drivers too, a major study of road safety has found.
    Researchers noted that in cities which invested in high-quality protected space for bikes, there was a dramatic reduction in fatalities among all road users.
    Drivers were more aware of their surroundings and more willing to slow down in areas that had extensive cycling infrastructure, the report from the University of Colorado Denver and the University of New Mexico found.
    (snip)
    Researchers looked at road fatality rates in 12 large US cities with high rates of cycling. In Portland, Oregon, they found that as the number of people using a bike to get around rose from 1.2 per cent to 6 per cent between 1990 and 2010, the road fatality rate dropped by 75 per cent.
    With added bike lanes, fatal crash rates dropped in Seattle (by 61 per cent), San Francisco (by 49 per cent), Denver (by 40 per cent) and Chicago (by 38 per cent).


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