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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Balanadan wrote: »
    I was down in Garryvoe at the weekend and I was HORRIFIED that there were young children using swings UNSUPERVISED!
    Even the children have the cop on to realise you need to hold on, don't hold a a capri sun in one hand and a milk in the other while on a swing. Poor Maria needs an adult standing beside her swing to tell her this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Dig up, Maria!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,730 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    FG didn't know she was doing the radio interview. Now they know she does need adult supervision


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Even the children have the cop on to realise you need to hold on, don't hold a a capri sun in one hand and a milk in the other while on a swing. Poor Maria needs an adult standing beside her swing to tell her this.

    And this is what make my blood boil. It's claims like this that end up impacting us all, if she was awarded the 60k , the Dean will likely remove the seats.

    Basically these claims, facilitated by the courts, end up hitting us all whether it's financial cost through increased premiums or just spoiling the god damn fun!

    All because a fecking adult can't be responsible!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    dublin99 wrote: »
    She swore an affidavit under oath to support her claim.
    An affidavit is a legally binding document.
    She lied under oath.
    This is an offence.
    The defendant should be awarded their costs.
    Then the Judge should refer the case to the DPP.
    She should be charged with perjury.
    But of course, she is above the law....so nothing will happen

    Rather like Willie "the perjurer" O'Dea did some years ago!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/willie-o-dea-will-not-face-perjury-case-prosecution-1.622200


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭FFred




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Sorry about that


    I would love to know what her best 10k time is, as she said the 53 mins wasn't good 'for her'. Just to know if she was bs'ing about that too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,338 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    This song is probably playing in Fine Gael HQ now...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    So, if I am understanding this correctly...

    Maria Bailey went to a friends house and had one glass wine, then when she got to the hotel she bought a cockail and somebody with her bought a bottle of wine.
    She went to sit on the swing, and because it was shiny and there was no supervision, she slipped off it as the seat moved when she went to grab the bottle of wine from her friend, with her untouched cocktail in the other hand (presumably admitted because CCTV exists).
    The court submitted papers say that she was in hospital the next morning, but she was on TV according to those dates. She has since said that the court submitted papers got the dates wrong (because if they were correct, she would have been committing attempted insurance fraud). She couldn't do anything for 3 months, but went to a concert (but only one of those 'easy-going' concerts, where nobody would have bumped into her, and there was no risk of damage), and then ran in a 10k race.
    Then when it becomes public that an elected TD, whose party are currently claiming to tackle 'compo culture' is suing a hotel for failing to sit on a swing that 3 year olds have been able to master for centuries, using the law firm of another Fine Gael TD, she goes on RTE and blames the journalists for printing it, the public (keyboard warriors), declares that she grew up on the sidelines of a GAA pitch and plays fair, and blames everyone else but herself.

    I would love to see that CCTV footage. I bet it would teach Neymar a thing or two about falling.

    I have probably left out loads. But I think that's the jist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    I would love to know what her best 10k time is, as she said the 53 mins wasn't good 'for her'. Just to know if she was bs'ing about that too.

    55 seconds slower than the previous year apparently

    Delighted she has been caught out, she deserves absolutely everything thrown at her. She's the one in the wrong, she's the one who has tried to sue because of pure greed.

    What a cúnt


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭golfball37




    Willie paid out quite a hefty sum in that one. The sickening thing about that one was not what he said about Quinlivan it was that he called a young journalist a liar and would have ruined his career only for the fact the young lad had it on tape.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    dublin99 wrote: »
    She swore an affidavit under oath to support her claim.
    An affidavit is a legally binding document.
    She lied under oath.
    This is an offence.
    The defendant should be awarded their costs.
    Then the Judge should refer the case to the DPP.
    She should be charged with perjury.
    But of course, she is above the law....so nothing will happen

    All that is a wider discussion for another day. Most people who make fraudulent claims lie under oath eg. They argue they are badly injured but are caught running, boxing, playing football a few weeks after the alleged incident.
    Have any of these cases been referred to the DPP? If not, why not? If they were referred to the DPP and if they faced prison time or a large fine, and it was well publicised, you'd soon see a dramatic drop in fraudulent claims as well as the cost of insurance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭This is it


    Haven't read the last few pages but have listened to the interview and follow up comments. She did herself no favours. Any question that would compromise her was turned down. Regina Doherty threw her under the bus in a follow up interview and reading other news sources, Simon Harris has out the boot in too.

    They'll need to thread carefully but she could end up out on her ear by the sounds of it. She was so badly prepared for that interview.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    55 seconds slower than the previous year apparently
    55 seconds over a 10k is nothing, 5.5 seconds slower per KM. That's the kind of differential when you're a little tired or you had a few beers the night before, not when you're quite injured and "just dipping your toe".


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Fotish


    Listened to the interview there now.

    I think that her main gripe is that her insurance claim was made public knowledge, she would have been perfectly happy if she could fill her boots and everything was kept nice and quiet.

    She was told that there would be no publicity before the case was heard in the High Court, bad advice unfortunately for her, maybe she can sue the Solicitors !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Sorry about that


    55 seconds slower than the previous year apparently

    Delighted she has been caught out, she deserves absolutely everything thrown at her. She's the one in the wrong, she's the one who has tried to sue because of pure greed.

    What a cúnt

    So the severity of her injuries cost her less than a minute!!! So funny!! Thanks for the information- was very curious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Fotish wrote: »
    Listened to the interview there now.

    I think that her main gripe is that her insurance claim was made public knowledge, she would have been perfectly happy if she could fill her boots and everything was kept nice and quiet.

    She was told that there would be no publicity before the case was heard in the High Court, bad advice unfortunately for her, maybe she can sue the Solicitors !

    i honestly think madigan is now directly implicated after that interview


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    This is it wrote: »
    She was so badly prepared for that interview.

    That was her own doing, she thought answering nothing and portraying the strong female who is a working mother balancing a home with work would see her through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro




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    what's the story here folks, I'm delighted she was shown for the money hungry kit she is, but have the indo got an axe to grind on her or something??

    See below, someone really hates her, though cannot say I blame them.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/full-transcript-td-maria-baileys-explosive-radio-interview-over-dropped-swing-fall-case/ar-AABZa3G?ocid=spartandhp


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,190 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    at the start of the interview she said it was a closed case so someone had to have leaked the details. Then she does on to say that Michael McDowell and Michael Martin should have known better talking about the case as it was a live case. So which was it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    seamus wrote: »
    55 seconds over a 10k is nothing, 5.5 seconds slower per KM. That's the kind of differential when you're a little tired or you had a few beers the night before, not when you're quite injured and "just dipping your toe".

    And if your out on the rip 3 weeks before and then to a concert, where you even training properly up to it. Her best time was proabably her being more focused.

    Waiting for the Longitude pictures of her jumping around like a headless chicken to arrive. Surely anyone that was there should be checking their pictures, she's in the background of some for sure


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    seamus wrote: »
    I think the impact of this case shouldn't be understated. Yeah, it's a little bit of a joke and a laugh, stupid woman suing because she doesn't know how to use a swing.

    But with the information over the weekend that indicated she was very clearly trying on some insurance fraud, and now she's switched to playing the victim, people are generally livid about this. And what Leo does next is going to be seen as Fine Gael's opinion on the matter - if they do nothing, then FG have no problem with insurance fraud. Opinion polls will start going down the swanny, FF will start eying up an election.
    If they let her go, then they're making a statement that the sh1tehawkery of the past won't be tolerated any more.

    Enda was a grand man for turning a blind eye to this kind of stuff. But Leo "welfare cheats" Varadkar has made anti-fraud and anti-corruption a strong part of their message, and if they don't stick to it they're going to get hammered.

    I personally think he's even let it go too soft by saying that he "wants to hear her side" before making a decision. It sounds like he's being reasonable, but at this stage she's already toast. Her side of the story is irrelevant; even if she's been completely wronged on this one and the media have been unfair to her, FG have to let her go. Something less conciliatory like, "The party leadership will meet to discuss the issue" would have sounded better. At the moment he sounds like he wants to give her a chance to stay.

    I'd agree. Voted FG last two GEs, but they won't have my vote with this if they allow it to slide. I can excuse some of the other ****e like children's hospital and broadband plan as there's no other good options, but this would be a new low, even for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    seamus wrote:
    55 seconds over a 10k is nothing, 5.5 seconds slower per KM. That's the kind of differential when you're a little tired or you had a few beers the night before, not when you're quite injured and "just dipping your toe".


    Actually it was only 44 seconds slower than her 2014 time yet it was quicker than 58m 20 sec in 2012. 3 years older with a 'serious back injury' in 2015 she was still 4 minutes quicker.
    Although she dig holes faster than she can run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Have any of these cases been referred to the DPP? If not, why not? If they were referred to the DPP and if they faced prison time or a large fine, and it was well publicised, you'd soon see a dramatic drop in fraudulent claims as well as the cost of insurance.
    Perjury itself is a separate offence. Someone asked above why the judge didn't send the case to the DPP, and that's because they can't.

    A Garda has to investigate the allegation, compile documentary evidence and refer it to the DPP. The DPP then has to try and charge the person with perjury under old common law, because we don't have any explicit crime of perjury on the books. We know this is unlikely to succeed for a variety of factors, so we just don't bother.

    Judges and Gardai have been screaming about this since the inception of the state, but governments haven't bothered their hole to do anything about it until now. There's a bill currently making its way through the Seanad, that if approved by the Dáil will make perjury an explicit offence and relatively easier to prosecute.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    She could learn a thing or two from the traditional backbenchers in the Dail who you never heard of until they retired. Even many of their own constituents don't know who they were.

    Take the salary, follow the leader, stay out of the limelight and retire with the big fat pension. It couldn't be simpler.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,615 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Wow this is car crash stuff, she was probably planning her summer in Disneyland with the pay out and now this looks like the end of her political career.

    Lets hope the media now get to the bottom of her 2004 claim against her employer Aer Lingus. Apparantly that time the anti-social hours that she knew in advance she would have to work about and that she signed up to gave her migraines. But instead of finding a 9-5 job like anyone else would she sues them and the rumour is now that she got an out of court settlement of €160,000. Aer Lingus was a loss making semi state at the time so thats literally taxpayers money lining Marias pockets.
    seamus wrote: »
    Enda was a grand man for turning a blind eye to this kind of stuff. But Leo "welfare cheats" Varadkar has made anti-fraud and anti-corruption a strong part of their message, and if they don't stick to it they're going to get hammered.

    Its a very good point, if Leo doesnt act now after that car crash this morning his leadership of the party will have been weakened.
    RobertKK wrote: »
    FG didn't know she was doing the radio interview. Now they know she does need adult supervision

    You see thats why the taxpayer needed to spend €5m a year on Leos spin unit, if they had of been in operation then this would never have happened. Bring back the spinners for they will protect us from the likes of Maria Bailey!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Sean Sean....I've done nothing wrong here
    Sean Sean....I was hurt too
    Sean Sean....waffle waffle


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,190 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    PaulieC wrote: »
    at the start of the interview she said it was a closed case so someone had to have leaked the details. Then she does on to say that Michael McDowell and Michael Martin should have known better talking about the case as it was a live case. So which was it ?

    she had to stay away from her house for three days last week and at the same time had to work from home for three days.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981




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