Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

cmac2009 · 27-05-2019 12:33pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"Humanity has been crossed", an instant classic. I'll whip out that line the next time I receive a bad pour in the local.

The line doesn't even make sense ffs!

DelaneyIn · 27-05-2019 12:33pm

"I'm a strong female politician and some people don’t like that"

The sexism card. Truly the last act of the scoundrel.

Suckit · 27-05-2019 12:39pm

Hardtochoose wrote: »

Did I hear someone say that she received approx €160,000 in a settled claim from her ex employers Aer Lingus ?

:eek::eek:
It was that high? In 2004? What the f**k was it for, did someone push her out of a Plane?

And at a time when Aer Lingus were already in trouble. She's the model we need as a politician... :rolleyes:

mr_edge_to_you · 27-05-2019 12:39pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

Rumour has it the Diageo Marketing team are to sponsor the now infamous swings and put Bailey's Cream logo's on the floor:

Bailey's... For when you need a pick-me-up

That's not true. The signs are going on the ceiling! They'll be easier to see.

bottlebrush · 27-05-2019 12:40pm

great fodder here for oliver Callan

ToBeFrank123 · 27-05-2019 12:40pm

My advice to her is stop doing media interviews, take a week long holiday in Lanzarote or somewhere like that, and by the time she comes back, the news cycle and social media will have moved on to something else.

Going on SOR is just further fueling the fire and keeping her at the centre of attention and only someone who enjoys being the centre of attention would opt for that.

And just when FG had gotten over the NCH fiasco.

branie2 · 27-05-2019 12:41pm

Could be an ad for Ryanair as well.

Want a swinging time? Come to Ireland on very low fares!

SEANoftheDEAD · 27-05-2019 12:41pm

I thought the article in the paper yesterday was the worst it could get for this woman, but that interview takes the title, absolutely glorious!
She is delusional beyond belief, "I went to Marley Park with my friends, sat on the grass, watched a band and then went home."

Also, the way she kept condescendingly saying, "Seán", really boiled my blood.

Muahahaha · 27-05-2019 12:42pm

My god just as you had thought that this story had died in walks Maria with a can of petrol to throw onto the embers.

She was asked did Joesepha Madigan advise her in relation to the case and she refused to answer so now we know that Madigan was advising her

She refused to answer what was in her second hand but also blurted out about a bottle of wine

And the story of how much drink she had sounds like a crock of sh1te too, one glass of wine in Sandyford at pre-drinks in a friends house, yeah right :rolleyes:
Then in the hotel she buys a drink "which I didn't consume" but upstairs she is hanging out of a swing with a bottle of beer in one hand and a bottle of wine in the other whilst trying to lurch over to her friend who was taking a selfie If that doesnt conjure up an image of someone who was absolutely locked I dont know what would.

TCM · 27-05-2019 12:45pm

PCeeeee wrote:

P Flynn was exactly who I thought of

It made me think of his daughter Beverley.

SirGerryAdams · 27-05-2019 12:47pm

Am I alone in thinking Bailey has a point? I listened to her interview.

Why not let the judge decide?

Mrsmum · 27-05-2019 12:47pm

I only heard the interview the once but I think there was a section where SOR spoke about businesses being on their knees due to the claim culture and she said but those were false claims. Who is she to decide if other peoples claims were genuine while her own provable sham of a case was entitled to go before a judge. I mean she can't have it both ways, that she is entitled to bring a claim but others aren't.

27-05-2019 12:47pm

Varadkar will have no choice but to give her a chance to resign before referring her to the National Council.

If she's learned anything from this morning, she needs to stop drawing attention to herself, and resign from the FG parliamentary party.

Incredible how she believes the world is agin her, and doesn't appear to see any problem with her actions on the night, let alone swearing false information in court documents.

I thought she was going to go full Aoife McGregor at one stage (The NNNNeccCCKK on yOu, yOu dOn'T KnoW mY liFFFFe")

Radio gold forever.

SirGerryAdams · 27-05-2019 12:49pm

bottlebrush wrote: »

so she had a bottle of beer in one hand and a bottle of wine in the other and she was reaching for her friend and something about mobile phone. you don't have to be a judge to figure it out.

Why not let it go to court then and have the judge decide?

McMurphy · 27-05-2019 12:49pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

My god just as you had thought that this story had died in walks Maria with a can of petrol to throw onto the embers.

She was asked did Joesepha Madigan advise her in relation to the case and she refused to answer so now we know that Madigan was advising her

She refused to answer what was in her second hand but also blurted out about a bottle of wine

And the story of how much drink she had sounds like a crock of sh1te too, one glass of wine in Sandyford at pre-drinks in a friends house, yeah right :rolleyes:
Then in the hotel she buys a drink "which I didn't consume" but upstairs she is hanging out of a swing with a bottle of beer in one hand and a bottle of wine in the other whilst trying to lurch over to her friend who was taking a selfie If that doesnt conjure up an image of someone who was absolutely locked I dont know what would.

Twice now we have examples of how FG TDs acting irresponsibly in licensed premises due to the demon drink.

FG want to target the off-licences though, because drinking a can at home is one step away from killing your mam and eating her entrails.

sydthebeat · 27-05-2019 12:49pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking Bailey has a point? I listened to her interview.

Why not let the judge decide?

if thats her view, then why did she pull the claim??

she pulled the claim because she was caught out lying.

THATS the problem people have with her

everlast75 · 27-05-2019 12:50pm

No wonder the legal advice was to drop the claim. She would have been woeful under cross examination.

Sean had umpteen opportunities to bury her, from the inconsistencies about the circumstances leading up the incident (it was one friend, one bottle of beer, then there were friends plural and a bottle of wine), to putting it to her that just because she was injured doesn't mean its okay to sue, to asking her why her specific claim says she is seeking compensation in the court writ when she says she wasn't looking for any, to why if she was just looking for payment of medical expenses why didn't she take the case in the district court which has a limit of 15k - enough to cover those expenses, to her later confirming the hotel paid her expenses!?!, ask her when her court pleading was amended - was it before or after the story broke about the 10k, to whether she was now going take issue with her own solicitor who said she had an open and sut case or words to that effect, as that advice would land any solicitor in trouble... it goes on and on.

Ash.J.Williams · 27-05-2019 12:51pm

SEANoftheDEAD wrote: »

I thought the article in the paper yesterday was the worst it could get for this woman, but that interview takes the title, absolutely glorious!
She is delusional beyond belief, "I went to Marley Park with my friends, sat on the grass, watched a band and then went home."

Also, the way she kept condescendingly saying, "Seán", really boiled my blood.

as if sitting on grass is no big deal with a back injury

Peatys · 27-05-2019 12:51pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Why not let it go to court then and have the judge decide?

Because her own antisocial media posts contradicted her affidavit.

SirGerryAdams · 27-05-2019 12:51pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

if thats her view, then why did she pull the claim??

she pulled the claim because she was caught out lying.

THATS the problem people have with her

Probably because of journos and media attacking her?

THATS the problem people have with her

This thread was started before she pulled the claim.

SirGerryAdams · 27-05-2019 12:52pm

Peatys wrote: »

Because her own antisocial media posts contradicted her affidavit.

But as she said, they were provisional and to be amended.

SirGerryAdams · 27-05-2019 12:52pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

as if sitting on grass is no big deal with a back injury

Where did her expenses come from then?

jon1981 · 27-05-2019 12:54pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Probably because of journos and media attacking her?

This thread was started before she pulled the claim.

Yes, this thread was started when people realised she was talking BS...then she realised people were starting to talk and then pulled the claim. If she believed in her story should would not have pulled it.

Calhoun · 27-05-2019 12:54pm

DelaneyIn wrote: »

"I'm a strong female politician and some people don’t like that"

The sexism card. Truly the last act of the scoundrel.

It's beautiful in a way, it's literally play by play on how you normally weasel your way out of something like this. Only problem is she forgot to wait until the heat died down and the electorate weren't overly pissed.

Had she had better timing this might have worked and she would have people defending her.

Sardonicat · 27-05-2019 12:55pm

Balanadan wrote: »

I was down in Garryvoe at the weekend and I was HORRIFIED that there were young children using swings UNSUPERVISED!

Their parents have a clear cut case.

Peatys · 27-05-2019 12:55pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

But as she said, they were provisional and to be amended.

Once they were amended, and the truth came out, her legal advice was to drop the case.

odyssey06 · 27-05-2019 12:56pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Probably because of journos and media attacking her?

She's already being lambasted in the media for submitting the claim in the first place.
If she thought she was going to win, she wouldn't have pulled it, and she'd have thrown a victory back in the face of the media as an exoneration.
Now she's in a lose-lose situation as she's lost in the court in the public opinion and she doesn't get her actual court pay out.

sydthebeat · 27-05-2019 12:57pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Probably because of journos and media attacking her?
.

which has been shown to be 100% correct... she was called out and shown to be lying...

well done to the journalists on this

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

This thread was started before she pulled the claim.

at least some people saw it for what it was.... a money grab from a self obsessed woman through a fradulent claim

McCrack · 27-05-2019 12:57pm

I listened to Sean o Rourke interview.

My God she has some neck. She has been exposed as a lier and dropped her case. She exaggerated her injury. She lied in her pleadings and swore an affidavit of verification that the contents are true and accurate.

Leo should **** her out of the FG party.

Simple_Simone · 27-05-2019 12:58pm

cmac2009 wrote: »

As she said, not everything is covered by private medical insurance, she just wanted her 60k excess covered. Which is reasonably fair given the seriousness of the injury and no-fault nature of the incident.

Exactly! Plus it'll cost her at least €60K to repair the damage to both of her feet. And I'm not certain that private health insurance covers someone who deliberately shoots their own feet!

Ash.J.Williams · 27-05-2019 12:59pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Where did her expenses come from then?

wha

Floppybits · 27-05-2019 12:59pm

bottlebrush wrote: »

so she had a bottle of beer in one hand and a bottle of wine in the other and she was reaching for her friend and something about mobile phone. you don't have to be a judge to figure it out.

So how did she fall off on her back if she was reaching for her friend, surely if her friend was rooting in her bag for her phone, then Bailey would have fell forwards and at worst landed on her knees?

Snow Garden · 27-05-2019 12:59pm

McCrack wrote: »

I listened to Sean o Rourke interview.

Heard it too. Car crash for her. It's the story that keeps giving. What an idiot.

FishOnABike · 27-05-2019 12:59pm

Yurt! wrote: »

That's when you know a snakey female politician has been utterly wrecked and completely boxed into a corner by their own hand, the 'strong female' defense comes out.

Not strong enough to hold onto a swing though (apparently)!

Mrsmum · 27-05-2019 1:00pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

Their parents have a clear cut case.

Or is it the parents that could be sued for neglect pure and simple. I mean imagine letting children play on a swing when adults have been known to not be able to get the swing of them. Dreadful parenting.

odyssey06 · 27-05-2019 1:02pm

New FG policy from Maria Bailey, Chair of the Oireachtas Committee for Local Government... all swings to be removed from playgrounds across the country due to clear and imminent threat they present.

Mantis Toboggan · 27-05-2019 1:03pm

Wow this is car crash stuff, she was probably planning her summer in Disneyland with the pay out and now this looks like the end of her political career.

Grayson · 27-05-2019 1:03pm

Floppybits wrote: »

So how did she fall off on her back if she was reaching for her friend, surely if her friend was rooting in her bag for her phone, then Bailey would have fell forwards and at worst landed on her knees?

have you ever seen a drunk person balancing on a swing?

Floppybits · 27-05-2019 1:04pm

Grayson wrote: »

have you ever seen a drunk person balancing on a swing?

But she said that she wasn't drunk?

Sardonicat · 27-05-2019 1:05pm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

as if sitting on grass is no big deal with a back injury

Where did her expenses come from then?

Thin air.

Church on Tuesday · 27-05-2019 1:05pm

Good stuff that interview, made me laugh out loud a good few times.

She's entitled as fook and it's everybody else's fault apart from her own. I've had a few run ins with folk like this and blow for blow it's the same old tired excuses and then near the end, when all else has failed, ya play the sexism card and the full time mammy bull**** to curry favor with the one last demographic that might have a bit of sympathy for you.

Total clown who has got what she deserves; if you're going out getting locked for the night you best mind yourself like a proper grown adult.

jon1981 · 27-05-2019 1:06pm

That interview will haunt her more than raising the actual claim.

Had she gone to ground it might have blown over when the next scandal or political event came along.

Sardonicat · 27-05-2019 1:07pm

Floppybits wrote: »

Grayson wrote: »

have you ever seen a drunk person balancing on a swing?

But she said that she wasn't drunk?

She also said she was unable to run for 3 months, despite doing a 10k 3 weeks later.

Floppybits · 27-05-2019 1:08pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

She also said she was unable to run for 3 months, despite doing a 10k 3 weeks later.

I can only take her word for it, she said she is honest as the day is long.

bottlebrush · 27-05-2019 1:08pm

Floppybits wrote: »

So how did she fall off on her back if she was reaching for her friend, surely if her friend was rooting in her bag for her phone, then Bailey would have fell forwards and at worst landed on her knees?

good job her neck is made of brass or she would have injured that too

odyssey06 · 27-05-2019 1:10pm

If anyone's at a count centre in the vicinity of anyone from FG, please set "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" as their ringtone...

seamus · 27-05-2019 1:12pm

McCrack wrote: »

Leo should **** her out of the FG party.

I think the impact of this case shouldn't be understated. Yeah, it's a little bit of a joke and a laugh, stupid woman suing because she doesn't know how to use a swing.

But with the information over the weekend that indicated she was very clearly trying on some insurance fraud, and now she's switched to playing the victim, people are generally livid about this. And what Leo does next is going to be seen as Fine Gael's opinion on the matter - if they do nothing, then FG have no problem with insurance fraud. Opinion polls will start going down the swanny, FF will start eying up an election.
If they let her go, then they're making a statement that the sh1tehawkery of the past won't be tolerated any more.

Enda was a grand man for turning a blind eye to this kind of stuff. But Leo "welfare cheats" Varadkar has made anti-fraud and anti-corruption a strong part of their message, and if they don't stick to it they're going to get hammered.

I personally think he's even let it go too soft by saying that he "wants to hear her side" before making a decision. It sounds like he's being reasonable, but at this stage she's already toast. Her side of the story is irrelevant; even if she's been completely wronged on this one and the media have been unfair to her, FG have to let her go. Something less conciliatory like, "The party leadership will meet to discuss the issue" would have sounded better. At the moment he sounds like he wants to give her a chance to stay.

Simple_Simone · 27-05-2019 1:12pm

Floppybits wrote: »

So how did she fall off on her back if she was reaching for her friend, surely if her friend was rooting in her bag for her phone, then Bailey would have fell forwards and at worst landed on her knees?

The way I picture it is that she was perched on the front of the swing seat (which she stated was polished wood) leaned forward to give something to her pal and the seat slipped backwards from underneath her and deposited her shapely (?) butt on the ground with a resounding thump.

But why she needed to get bandages from hotel staff for scrapes and cuts baffles me - although perhaps it's a thong related matter!

I understand that at the instant that she fell off the swing, minor earth tremors were recorded by seismological stations across Europe.

dublin99 · 27-05-2019 1:12pm

She swore an affidavit under oath to support her claim.
An affidavit is a legally binding document.
She lied under oath.
This is an offence.
The defendant should be awarded their costs.
Then the Judge should refer the case to the DPP.
She should be charged with perjury.
But of course, she is above the law....so nothing will happen

27-05-2019 1:14pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

She also said she was unable to run for 3 months, despite doing a 10k 3 weeks later.

"Barely able to stand" was another one!

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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