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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    Not so much a near miss but more a piss poor bit of driving. I'm always on guard along this stretch and will usually only pass stationary or very slow moving cars due to road width. Backed off when I saw driver of white car looking in her lap. Then I notice she's absolutely massacring a tray of curry chips. Hard to steer, she heads for the kerb, corrects, then is undecided on which lane to be in. Then decides its the left, before finally checking her mirror.

    It ended with a shrug, tray in one hand, plastic fork in other, as if to say "I'm eating my dinner here" :rolleyes:

    https://streamable.com/ldybo

    Crystal clear pic on that camera. What is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I never get this, as annoyed as you are with anyone for anything, no matter whether you are right or wrong, if a person is lying on the floor, at what point is your first response not to check are they OK? There is something rotten in the present day.




    Depends if your stuck up your own arse or just a decent person.
    People seem to put valuables ahead of a person these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Depends if your stuck up your own arse or just a decent person.
    People seem to put valuables ahead of a person these days

    I've always been bemused by the fact that some of the hyper aggressive drivers see no problem with using their vehicle to put serious threat on your very life, but then go absolutely ballistic if you even dare to even touch (not damage) their precious death-threat machines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Crystal clear pic on that camera. What is it?

    It’s a GoPro hero 7 black, It’s at 1080p and 60fps. It will actually do 4K as well, but files are massive and 1080 seems to be more than enough for the bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,934 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Duckjob wrote: »
    I've always been bemused by the fact that some of the hyper aggressive drivers see no problem with using their vehicle to put serious threat on your very life, but then go absolutely ballistic if you even dare to even touch (not damage) their precious death-threat machines.
    Wasn't there one of the UK helmetcammers who responded to the dire 'if you ever touch my car again' threats by reaching out with one finger and carefully leaving a single fingerprint on the window or roof? Must try that move some day...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Wasn't there one of the UK helmetcammers who responded to the dire 'if you ever touch my car again' threats by reaching out with one finger and carefully leaving a single fingerprint on the window or roof? Must try that move some day...

    TBH a couple of years back I used to be more militant, would give a little slap on the roof passing a car that had close passed me in town etc. Nowadays I dont bother as it's just not worth the agro for me. Plus some people out there are gone batsh*t crazy in the head, especially where attitudes to people on bikes are concerned, so you never know what you might be getting into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    Duckjob wrote: »
    TBH a couple of years back I used to be more militant, would give a little slap on the roof passing a car that had close passed me in town etc. Nowadays I dont bother as it's just not worth the agro for me. Plus some people out there are gone batsh*t crazy in the head, especially where attitudes to people on bikes are concerned, so you never know what you might be getting into.

    Same as yourself, I am a hothead by nature & a big enough guy but you have to do the math on this, if it comes to it I'm no match for a 4"10 idiot behind the wheel of a fiat cinquecento. I've seen enough YouTube clips of idiots driving into eachother due to road rage & I dont want to be another statistic. Particularly as the icing on the cake would be a 1 year suspended sentence due to being "very sorry" in court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,934 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Same as yourself, I am a hothead by nature & a big enough guy but you have to do the math on this, if it comes to it I'm no match for a 4"10 idiot behind the wheel of a fiat cinquecento. I've seen enough YouTube clips of idiots driving into eachother due to road rage & I dont want to be another statistic. Particularly as the icing on the cake would be a 1 year suspended sentence due to being "very sorry" in court.
    Duckjob wrote: »
    TBH a couple of years back I used to be more militant, would give a little slap on the roof passing a car that had close passed me in town etc. Nowadays I dont bother as it's just not worth the agro for me. Plus some people out there are gone batsh*t crazy in the head, especially where attitudes to people on bikes are concerned, so you never know what you might be getting into.


    It's a personal choice, for sure, but if you ignore bad behaviour, you enable it to continue.



    It is possible to engage with other adults in a public place without road rage or having a go. It's just one adult talking to another adult, same as you might do if someone skips an ATM queue or lets their dog crap on your lawn.


    Make it socially unacceptable and things just might change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    For anyone interested, Council are putting down Orcas on Custom House Quay this morning. Interested to see how this unfolds with the coaches that regularly park there.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,686 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    orcas are another word for what i've seen referred to as armadillos, are they?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Not quite a near miss (as a lot of posts here seem to start, sos should be ok)....N11 inbound just after Booterstown Avenue. Land rover or some such parked in bicycle lane. Cyclist has engaged with the vehicle, first from behind, slapping the back window for them to move. Then coming alongside the passenger window. Didnt look like the driver was going to move. Wonder how it ended up. It's a nice hill to pick up some speed on, I think I would have just left it and gone on the bus lane to go around them, was plenty of time/space to do so. Not a criticism of what he did, mind you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    orcas are another word for what i've seen referred to as armadillos, are they?


    I believe so. Armadillo probably more accurate unless its a dwarf Orca whale


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Let's call them Dime bars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    They also put poles in every 7th Orca/armadillo/dimebar. Just in case the big wheeled buses ignore them.
    But they only seem to have done half the Quay.Custom House.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    It's a personal choice, for sure, but if you ignore bad behaviour, you enable it to continue.



    It is possible to engage with other adults in a public place without road rage or having a go. It's just one adult talking to another adult, same as you might do if someone skips an ATM queue or lets their dog crap on your lawn.


    Make it socially unacceptable and things just might change.


    I do actually agree with you I don't shy away from a discussion if its warranted. I just think things like slapping the roof are extremely unlikely to lead to any sort of a positive outcome.

    Funny enough, in recent times I've actually become more vocal in the car when for example I see someone beside me with their head down looking at their phone. I'll beep them and try to get their attention, roll down the window and say "Would you mind leaving your phone alone when driving - it's dangerous to other road users".

    I probably wouldn't when on the bike, because all the anti-cyclist rubbish runs so strong in peoples brains now. Feels like, they'll accept it more readily when you're "one of them", whereas if it was a "cyclist telling them what to do" - well, you know where that's going to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    orcas are another word for what i've seen referred to as armadillos, are they?

    Armadillos are round like an armadillos back. Orcas are a sloping L shape. Similar but not quite the same.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Edit: sorry, did not see ED E's post above before replying!
    orcas are another word for what i've seen referred to as armadillos, are they?
    I believe so. Armadillo probably more accurate unless its a dwarf Orca whale

    Dublin City Council has so-far used a product called "Orca". Armadillos are different.

    As explained here: https://irishcycle.com/2018/12/06/mixed-views-on-new-cycle-lane-dividers-in-dublin/ -- "The Orcas are similar to but different than "Armadillos" humps. Orcas are rounded on the cycling lane side and have a flat face on the side installed towards motorists, while Armadillos are rounded on both sides."

    Armadillos:
    Armadillos.jpg

    Orcas:
    DtowGMlXcAAoHL8-1.jpg?zoom=1.375&resize=650%2C276&ssl=1

    Armadillos also come in the same colours and a lower height too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Chiparus wrote: »
    They also put poles in every 7th Orca/armadillo/dimebar. Just in case the big wheeled buses ignore them.
    But they only seem to have done half the Quay.Custom House.jpg

    Saw this for the first time on the commute this morning and it's probably the most ridiculous piece of road/cycle infrastructure I've seen, more the location than the idea. The bus stop is still in existence and as mentioned it’s only the 2nd half of the quay that is segregated so all the private operators that use the stop and before it as a parking spot will not be curtailed and if there is a bus stopped/parked are you supposed to weave back into the cycle lane after. Wouldn’t like to try that at a reasonable speed.

    Are the council completely inept when it comes to roads and maintenance, if they bothered to properly fix the pothole further up towards the light vehicles wouldn’t have the need to veer into the cycle lane avoiding it. In my years commuting I’ve never had a problem with this section of the quays, even with buses parked I’d take the lane from the lights and veer back into the cycle lane after the bus stop.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,686 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you gotta love the idea that they probably sent several workmen down to do that over a day or two, instead of a garda already on the beat being tasked to head down for ten minutes once a day telling drivers 'you're getting a warning for the next week or two, after that tickets will be handed out'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    Wasn't there one of the UK helmetcammers who responded to the dire 'if you ever touch my car again' threats by reaching out with one finger and carefully leaving a single fingerprint on the window or roof? Must try that move some day...
    I would rather get into a pen with a mad bull than do that in Dublin traffic. Consider that the consumption of cocaine has gone way up in this country. I'm not suggesting people snort and drive but you don't know what you're dealing with on the roads. I have noticed a significant rise in aggression towards cyclists in the last year or so and I don't mean just calling cyclists names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Very similar to the one at the bottom of leeson street leading on to the green. But at the start of it is a loading bay, so there's vans parked doing deliveries at the start of the segmented piece meaning you can't cycle into it, then cars start beeping for not being in the cycle lane. Rolleyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,934 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Duckjob wrote: »
    I do actually agree with you I don't shy away from a discussion if its warranted. I just think things like slapping the roof are extremely unlikely to lead to any sort of a positive outcome.


    Sure, I wouldn't recommend roof slapping or ranting and raving. In my experience, the best way to start the engagement is with a huge smile and a signal to wind down the window (even though they all have buttons, not winders).


    Emme wrote: »
    I would rather get into a pen with a mad bull than do that in Dublin traffic. Consider that the consumption of cocaine has gone way up in this country. I'm not suggesting people snort and drive but you don't know what you're dealing with on the roads. I have noticed a significant rise in aggression towards cyclists in the last year or so and I don't mean just calling cyclists names.


    It's a personal choice of course, and there are times where I make a strategic decision to keep my big mouth shut, but most people are vaguely civil, if only because they know that they are traceable through a reg number and a camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭coward


    A runner ran out in front of me last week. I locked up both brakes and fell to the ground. Could have been worse. Both of us got a fright. I couldn't ask for a nicer person to bump into. Music at the end to block out her voice and apologies. She didn't consider the cycle path when crossing.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sounds like the start of a Hollywood romance movie :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,686 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    called 'falling down'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,397 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    called 'falling down'.
    The runner coming back to finish off coward:
    michael-douglas-falling-down.gif


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,686 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Weepsie wrote: »
    I also saw another taxi nearly hit a car side on, but it was entirely the car driver's fault. It somehow cut across 2 lanes of traffic and emerged blindly to try and pull into an apartment complex at Collins Avenue/Ballymun Road Junction. They might have cut across from the opposite side of the road. It was some of the stupidest driving I've ever seen and the taxi driver looked properly shook.
    i've heard a few complaints about the behaviour of residents of that apartment in relation to their driving - if they want to head north, they don't do a u-turn at the main junction, they cut slightly north across the southbound lanes to get to the gap in the median opposite the library.
    plus, several people seem to regularly park completely on the footpath outside the apartments.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I haven't seen anyone do that, but it's an insane maneuver particular on that stretch of the road.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭VW 1


    I've witnessed the behaviour to go northbound myself, obviously just trying to beat the queue to u-turn at the lights at the main junction.


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