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Tesla Model Y

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    70% parts commonality with Model 3.

    10% bigger then model 3, 10% more expensive, slightly shorter range for the same battery.

    Nothing surprising, sounds like the typical cross over type SUV's that are so popular at the moment. I'm sure it will be very popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Model 3 is a sedan which is not very practical for families (with dogs), who need a hatchback.

    I'm not particularly keen on cross overs, but very interested in the Model Y, didn't realise it was coming this soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,213 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    bk wrote: »
    70% parts commonality with Model 3.

    10% bigger then model 3, 10% more expensive, slightly shorter range for the same battery.

    Nothing surprising, sounds like the typical cross over type SUV's that are so popular at the moment. I'm sure it will be very popular.


    Exactly like the X was to the S.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Interesting time at Tesla, lots of balls being juggled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,213 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's interesting how no matter the time, no matter the specific subject, if it is Tesla related there is a certain core of posters who can always be relied on to turn up and cast a negative aspersion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭jarrieta


    ELM327 wrote: »
    It's interesting how no matter the time, no matter the specific subject, if it is Tesla related there is a certain core of posters who can always be relied on to turn up and cast a negative aspersion.

    Completely agree with you, cannot see in this thread though. I cannot be bothered too much to post in the tesla threads anymore tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    ELM327 wrote: »
    It's interesting how no matter the time, no matter the specific subject, if it is Tesla related there is a certain core of posters who can always be relied on to turn up and cast a negative aspersion.

    Is it not just as true that there's also a core of posters who think Musk is a real life Iron Man and that Tesla are on a mission to save the planet?

    Passing a critical eye on the company, one can see that although it has a solid product lineup, the company is extremely stretched financially, has quality issues and had set itself up with a single point of failure, that Musk and the company are fundamentally intertwined. It's always been my opinion that if you take Musk out of the equation the company would really really struggle, like the old Apple without Jobs.

    That said, we would all be best just judging the new product on it's merits. I look forward to seeing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,649 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Is it not just as true that there's also a core of posters who think Musk is a real life Iron Man and that Tesla are on a mission to save the planet?

    Passing a critical eye on the company, one can see that although it has a solid product lineup, the company is extremely stretched financially, has quality issues and had set itself up with a single point of failure, that Musk and the company are fundamentally intertwined. It's always been my opinion that if you take Musk out of the equation the company would really really struggle, like the old Apple without Jobs.

    That said, we would all be best just judging the new product on it's merits. I look forward to seeing it.

    https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-tsla-bigger-than-elon-musk/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Mec-a-nic


    unkel wrote: »
    Model 3 is a sedan which is not very practical for families (with dogs), who need a hatchback.

    need? Should I feel bad for the family dog in the boot for short drives to the countryside?

    I'm amazed that a Fords Mondeo sized car (Model 3) is considered not suitable for 2 parents, 2 kids and a dog.

    I sat in a Model 3 last week, it's a nice size for a family, and not too big for use in a city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭jarrieta


    Mec-a-nic wrote: »
    need? Should I feel bad for the family dog in the boot for short drives to the countryside?

    I'm amazed that a Fords Mondeo sized car (Model 3) is considered not suitable for 2 parents, 2 kids and a dog.

    I sat in a Model 3 last week, it's a nice size for a family, and not too big for use in a city.

    I am interested in this, I am concerned about the size of the boot and accessibility, that is my main gripe with the car for being our family car (moving from an old 520D Estate). It is a lot of money for something that might not be practical. I hope they bring some soon here to take a look at one in the flesh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Mec-a-nic


    jarrieta wrote: »
    I am concerned about the size of the boot and accessibility,

    Big boot, I leaned all the way in and could just touch the backs of the back seats. There is bonus storage under the boot cover (where a spare wheel would be) and the little frunk.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    The big question - for me a deal breaker - can I get my golf clubs into the boot handy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Mec-a-nic wrote: »
    Should I feel bad for the family dog in the boot for short drives to the countryside?

    That doesn't feel right to me. If only there was even a ski hatch so it could stick its head into the cabin a bit and see the people?

    Linky


    Although that wouldn't work if 3 people sit in the back. But I'm only new to owning dogs, maybe experienced owners could give their opinion on dog in boot?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Different strokes and all that. I generally have the dog on the passenger seat or in the back if she's being a bit bold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Mec-a-nic


    slave1 wrote: »
    The big question - for me a deal breaker - can I get my golf clubs into the boot handy?

    Depends - how long are your woods/drivers?

    Also, do you even Google? - https://youtu.be/Cb4xaJRoo00?t=275

    I can't get my bike in so gonna have to get a roofrack or a very expensive towbar (there's no official tow mount, so one has to aftermarket one directly to the chassis :mad: )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,811 ✭✭✭creedp


    unkel wrote: »
    That doesn't feel right to me. If only there was even a ski hatch so it could stick its head into the cabin a bit and see the people?

    Linky


    Although that wouldn't work if 3 people sit in the back. But I'm only new to owning dogs, maybe experienced owners could give their opinion on dog in boot?

    Each to their own .. I'm far more interested in an EV that can accommodate 6 - 7 people in comfort at an affordable price.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    slave1 wrote: »
    The big question - for me a deal breaker - can I get my golf clubs into the boot handy?
    Mec-a-nic wrote: »
    Depends - how long are your woods/drivers?

    Also, do you even Google? - https://youtu.be/Cb4xaJRoo00?t=275

    I can't get my bike in so gonna have to get a roofrack or a very expensive towbar (there's no official tow mount, so one has to aftermarket one directly to the chassis :mad: )

    This is a Model Y thread so my question was on the soon to be revealed Model Y, not sure why most the recent posts have reverted back to Model 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Hope that the Y is also materially larger inside, and not just a Model 3 on stilts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Hope that the Y is also materially larger inside, and not just a Model 3 on stilts.

    Musk said Model Y is 10% bigger than Model 3. Hard to imagine the size of Model 3 though if you haven't been in one. I doubt very much it would be smaller than Ioniq / L40? So both should be big enough for 3 kids in the back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,213 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I imagine the Y is to fit into the eniro size CUV which are quite compact.
    I wouldn't be expecting model X levels of space.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Haven't sat in one, but Model 3 looks tight enough in the back in terms.of shoulder and head room. 3 car seats looks a real squeeze. Might have to go for the Model S with its three Isofix points!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    3 car seats looks a real squeeze.

    In fairness, 3 car seats in pretty much any sedan is a tight enough squeeze. Unless you go for E and F segment cars. Even in most D segment cars (VW Passat, Audi A4, BMW 3-series, Merc C-class, Ford Mondeo, etc. and presumably also Tesla Model 3?

    I haven't seen used Model S dropping in price much yet since this weeks annoucement of the $35k Model 3 and the massive price reductions of the Model S and Model X. Which makes them even worse value for money than the already were :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,213 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    In fairness, 3 car seats in pretty much any sedan is a tight enough squeeze. Unless you go for E and F segment cars. Even in most D segment cars (VW Passat, Audi A4, BMW 3-series, Merc C-class, Ford Mondeo, etc. and presumably also Tesla Model 3?

    I haven't seen used Model S dropping in price much yet since this weeks annoucement of the $35k Model 3 and the massive price reductions of the Model S and Model X. Which makes them even worse value for money than the already were
    Won't happen for a while as the model 3 is not available in RHD.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    Ah Jasus, the announcement is in LA at 8pm, so about 3am Irish time tomorrow.

    Will have to wait till tomorrow morning for me so.

    If anyone's up late, details of how to watch the unveiling are here...

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/14/18261915/tesla-model-y-announcement-live-stream-how-to-watch-elon-musk-date-time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yeah have to be in work at 8AM, will watch at some point tomorrow :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Wasn’t massively interested in this car but kid was up so watched some of the live feed

    Looks great, perfect for market and with 7 seats.....great, exactly what I need....so based on Model 3 so will be out soon.....happy days.....I will order today

    Order opens....spring 2021.....FFS....ok carry on, nothing to see here


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭BigAl81




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    That looks far better than I expected. 7 seats a very useful option for me. 0.23Cd is best in class, should make for good efficiency and more importantly range. Base model for about EUR40k on the road here, provided we will still have the same incentives as we have now?

    Model Y to Model 3 is like Model X to Model S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    unkel wrote: »
    That looks far better than I expected. 7 seats a very useful option for me. 0.23Cd is best in class, should make for good efficiency and more importantly range. Base model for about EUR40k on the road here, provided we will still have the same incentives as we have now?

    Model Y to Model 3 is like Model X to Model S

    2021 I'd say incentives will be gone or severely reduced.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Oooh, forget about this, essential youtube of the reveal tonight so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Amazed that they squeezed a third row of seats in there. I wonder will they offer a 6-seater option like the Model X? That's the ideal configuration, I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Amazed that they squeezed a third row of seats in there. I wonder will they offer a 6-seater option like the Model X? That's the ideal configuration, I think.


    By the looks of the back seats you will be looking at small kids at a max


    Great they got them into the car....it would be perfect now, only problem is kids have a nasty habit of growing so by the time this comes around I would guess sticking them in will be unworkable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    How many kids do you have and how big are they? We're a family of 5 but it would be handy for us to occasionally bring the mother-in-law and / or other other kids with us, mainly for short-ish distances. The 2 extra seats would be useful for that. They look suitable even for adults, as long as they are well below 6 feet (1.8m).The seats look a lot more useful than the ones in the 7 seat option in Model S

    2016-tesla-model-x-5_800x0w.jpg

    I'd say the interior will be similar in size, perhaps a bit bigger than a Nissan Qashqai 7 seater


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    unkel wrote: »
    How many kids do you have and how big are they? We're a family of 5 but it would be handy for us to occasionally bring the mother-in-law and / or other other kids with us, mainly for short-ish distances. The 2 extra seats would be useful for that. They look suitable even for adults, as long as they are well below 6 feet (1.8m).The seats look a lot more useful than the ones in the 7 seat option in Model S

    2016-tesla-model-x-5_800x0w.jpg

    I'd say the interior will be similar in size, perhaps a bit bigger than a Nissan Qashqai 7 seater


    That image makes it look a bit better.....current 3 squirts at the moment.....but 7 seats a must with friends and family......


    Sorry I don't mean to slag off the car....when I seen it I was really excited...literally at 4 last night I would have stuck on deposit.....then its 2021 and just a little peeved at this stage with cars getting announced and then they are f**king years away from releasing.....


    Not just saying it is Tesla either....really the Y should be up against the Buzz but it isnt coming til 2022....just sick of driving the transit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yeah and spring 2021 in the US for the base model realistically means a 221 reg here. As you say, a good bit more competition coming by then, which is a good thing. Had this car been available for immediate delivery here, I would have ordered one today.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    So now we have a model S, 3, X and Y.

    S3XY.......was this deliberate? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,649 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    unkel wrote: »
    How many kids do you have and how big are they? We're a family of 5 but it would be handy for us to occasionally bring the mother-in-law and / or other other kids with us, mainly for short-ish distances. The 2 extra seats would be useful for that. They look suitable even for adults, as long as they are well below 6 feet (1.8m).The seats look a lot more useful than the ones in the 7 seat option in Model S

    2016-tesla-model-x-5_800x0w.jpg

    I'd say the interior will be similar in size, perhaps a bit bigger than a Nissan Qashqai 7 seater

    The issue with the third row of seats is generally there is little to no leg room in the back row. This looks the case here

    The Qashqai is a very poor 7 seater that doesn’t fit three kids seats. SUV’s tend to have big wheel arches which reduces the internal size. Touran, C4, grand Picasso etc are much better it carrying people

    In built pop up booster seats would really give it as advantage. I’ve seen them in a few Alhsmbras, volvos and seats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    So now we have a model S, 3, X and Y.

    S3XY.......was this deliberate? :pac:

    Of course it was. Musk tried to register "Model E" as a trademark a few years ago, but got blocked ;)
    ted1 wrote: »
    The issue with the third row of seats is generally there is little to no leg room in the back row. This looks the case here

    The Qashqai is a very poor 7 seater that doesn’t fit three kids seats. SUV’s tend to have big wheel arches which reduces the internal size. Touran, C4, grand Picasso etc are much better it carrying people

    All good points, if you have a family of 7 and you travel a lot over long distances, you need a full size 7 seater. This 7 seat option car and others are perfect for people like me who only occasionally need to transport more than 5 people. The tiny rear facing seats in the 7-seat Model S would even do me. I don't think the leg room in the back row is a major issue, BTW. There are only 2 seats and there is width. Just don't sit with your knees touching each other and you'll be grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    unkel wrote: »
    Yeah and spring 2021 in the US for the base model realistically means a 221 reg here. As you say, a good bit more competition coming by then, which is a good thing. Had this car been available for immediate delivery here, I would have ordered one today.




    I was driving around in BMW 5 Series yesterday :p that could be my new car today....have been the Model Y if I could buy it....hell I would buy the Model 3 if it was available either :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Amazed that they squeezed a third row of seats in there. I wonder will they offer a 6-seater option like the Model X? That's the ideal configuration, I think.

    There will be no 6-seater option. Only 5 or 7.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭aliveandkicking


    A few interesting photos floating around:

    Looks great in red IMO.
    modely-5-png.386522


    Size comparison of Model 3 and Model Y.
    upload_2019-3-15_4-2-28-png.386597

    7 seat layout
    yinterior-jpg.386552

    Seats folded down
    original.optimized-6.jpg?resize=800,450


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    unkel wrote: »
    Of course it was. Musk tried to register "Model E" as a trademark a few years ago, but got blocked ;)

    Good old Ford stuck their oar in as they had model E's in the 60's and planned (and now will) to launch their EV's as Model E's.

    Aside, I likey likey the space of a 5 seater config but perhaps like many am realistically thinking when will the hit the used market, just seems so far away from today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭aliveandkicking


    The standard range Model Y has similar range, performance and space as the Jag Ipace, Audi Etron, Merc EQC but comes in at around half the price starting at $39,000. Obviously the other three will have better build quality and interiors but how much interior quality does $40,000 extra buy! As for the long range and performance Model Y, it blows the other three out of the water on range and acceleration for $57,000. The Model Y has a 7 seat option too which the others don't as far as I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    The standard range Model Y has similar range, performance and space as the Jag Ipace, Audi Etron, Merc EQC but comes in at around half the price starting at $39,000. Obviously the other three will have better build quality and interiors but how much interior quality does $40,000 extra buy! As for the long range and performance Model Y, it blows the other three out of the water on range and acceleration for $57,000. The Model Y has a 7 seat option too which the others don't as far as I know.

    Great value alright

    It's just so bland, not ugly, but boring.

    Tesla badly need a new designer, even the new Roadster looks plain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭pdpmur


    Mike9832 wrote: »
    Great value alright

    It's just so bland, not ugly, but boring.

    Tesla badly need a new designer, even the new Roadster looks plain.

    Is Tesla falling into the cookie cutter styling trap in that it will be hard to visually differentiate between a model X and Y, thereby devaluing the more expensive X in the eyes of potential buyers?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Mike9832 wrote: »
    Great value alright

    It's just so bland, not ugly, but boring.

    Tesla badly need a new designer, even the new Roadster looks plain.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but ultimately I suggest the plain/bland/boring look is due to an efficient drag mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭macnab


    I think the Model Y needs to look more like an SUV to appeal to the fashion conscious buyer.
    The fundamentals of the Y are spot on but some buyers dont see beyond the looks.
    Obviously aerodynamics and safety were the prime directive for the design brief.
    Having said that I think it is a great product and will probably outsell all other Tesla models combined.
    Well done Tesla.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    pdpmur wrote: »
    Is Tesla falling into the cookie cutter styling trap in that it will be hard to visually differentiate between a model X and Y, thereby devaluing the more expensive X in the eyes of potential buyers?

    Thats true too

    People buying the Model S/X over 3/Y have more money than sense

    You can get a performance 3/Y cheaper than base into those models

    They need to upgrade/refresh them soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,707 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    macnab wrote: »
    I think the Model Y needs to look more like an SUV to appeal to the fashion conscious buyer.

    What appeals to me is that it doesn't look like an SUV :D

    I have to say the Model X is growing on me too in recent months.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Not me...:(

    D1rDIeTWwAAhB6Y.jpg


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