Tesla Model Y

carloscorreia

if you are curious about the Model Y insides you can follow the teardown by Munro & Associates (not an April's fool - they did the same for the Model 3)

https://munrolive.com/munrolive

unkel

I heard today that Sandy himself just bought a Model Y. Maybe that's his personal car :-)

fricatus

carloscorreia wrote: »

if you are curious about the Model Y insides you can follow the teardown by Munro & Associates (not an April's fool - they did the same for the Model 3)

https://munrolive.com/munrolive

Yes, been looking at his videos on the Munro Live YouTube channel. Really interesting, and he’s impressed with it, by and large.

Brera

carloscorreia wrote: »

if you are curious about the Model Y insides you can follow the teardown by Munro & Associates (not an April's fool - they did the same for the Model 3)

https://munrolive.com/munrolive

Some great videos there.

It’s really interesting when you compare them to the model 3 teardown they carried out.

I just can’t seem to understand at this stage why Tesla hasn’t managed to sort out its paint job. Looking at his videos of the model Y it seems to be the only major issue.

The rest seem to minor problems with alignment issues which I’m sure can be sorted out. Remember that the model being used for the teardown will be an early production model and Tesla should improve it as they ramp up.

The data from the crash tests will be really interesting to see when it comes out. The front end changes look they are not just designing the car to pass the crash tests but going well beyond them.

I wonder to Tesla do much analysis when one of their cars is crashed like Volvo.

All in all it really does look like it is one quality car.

Silent Running

Brera wrote: »

Some great videos there.

It’s really interesting when you compare them to the model 3 teardown they carried out.

I just can’t seem to understand at this stage why Tesla hasn’t managed to sort out its paint job. Looking at his videos of the model Y it seems to be the only major issue.

The rest seem to minor problems with alignment issues which I’m sure can be sorted out. Remember that the model being used for the teardown will be an early production model and Tesla should improve it as they ramp up.

The data from the crash tests will be really interesting to see when it comes out. The front end changes look they are not just designing the car to pass the crash tests but going well beyond them.

I wonder to Tesla do much analysis when one of their cars is crashed like Volvo.

All in all it really does look like it is one quality car.

Some good videos alright. The frunk issue was really poor though. Just think how pissed off you would be if that was your brand new car.

I think the Y will be my first Tesla too. Probably early 2022 if the fanbois have been dealt with and the car can be ordered for soonish delivery.

Maybe German built cars won't have the slapdash repairs like the realignment of the frunk clearly done at the factory.

Brera

Silent Running wrote: »

Some good videos alright. The frunk issue was really poor though. Just think how pissed off you would be if that was your brand new car.

I think the Y will be my first Tesla too. Probably early 2022 if the fanbois have been dealt with and the car can be ordered for soonish delivery.

Maybe German built cars won't have the slapdash repairs like the realignment of the frunk clearly done at the factory.

I wonder where will the right hand drive cars be built. Hopefully Germany.

There are a few more videos appearing on YouTube of early cars with some paint problems but so far the rest do seem to be alignment problems.

If I was fortunate enough to be in position to buy a Tesla right now I would be inclined to buy the Y.

I don’t need the extra space and would prefer the lower ride of height of the 3 but the engineering changes to the Y and the inclusion of heat pump make it a better proposition in my humble opinion.

unkel

Brera wrote: »

and the inclusion of heat pump make it a better proposition in my humble opinion.

Heatpump is way overrated in a mild climate like ours, particularly when you can pre-heat the car (all EVs can, provided you have a chargepoint at home)

ELM327

Heat pump is brilliant in climates like ours. Where it's overrated is where the avg temperature is below 0. Heat pumps work at their best above 3-4 degrees C. Below that, you're using a ptc heater anyway./

Sabre Man

Preheating via the app works really well but perhaps it's a case of once you've had it you can't live without it.

KCross

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1248132730614939653?s=20

Obvious enough really but confirmation from the horses mouth that we wont see Model Y here until Giga Berlin is up and running... so late 2021, early 2022 is the likely first delivery timeframe for Ireland.

slave1

..by which time Model X used values will be tempting...

ELM327

slave1 wrote: »

..by which time Model X used values will be tempting...

It will be timed here similar to the S v 3, where used S values are similar to the range of new 3 models

unkel

KCross wrote: »

Obvious enough really but confirmation from the horses mouth that we wont see Model Y here until Giga Berlin is up and running... so late 2021, early 2022 is the likely first delivery timeframe for Ireland.

I've said that all along. The good thing is that this will avoid the import duties that make the Model 3 too expensive for what it is over here. The bad thing is that it will take a long time. And developments at the Berlin Gigafactory have just been halted again.

carloscorreia

It looks the Giga Berlin will have a better paint shop

https://insideevs.com/news/409758/giga-berlin-most-advanced-paint-shop/

ELM327

Sabre Man wrote: »

Preheating via the app works really well but perhaps it's a case of once you've had it you can't live without it.

I had 2 EVs with heat pump and my S is the first not to have it.
The app is great but unless you're heating the battery and car for 30min+ it doesnt have enough effect to make up for the heat pump in terms of efficiency

youngblood

Saw a model Y on the road today, nearly fell onto the road staring it, thing of beauty!

unkel

You in the US?

youngblood

Ireland! I cant understand how there's one here considering they're only just released!

unkel

You are certain it was a Model Y? Did you take a pic? Or get a look at the number plate? Model Y is not selling in Europe until next year afaik and RHD probably not until 2022 at the earliest.

AndyBoBandy

when do the folk in the know reckon they'll be available to order in Ireland? probably sometime around summer next year?

mrbongo

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

when do the folk in the know reckon they'll be available to order in Ireland? probably sometime around summer next year?

All Model Y's for European countries will come from Gigafactory Berlin. So, none will be supplied until a) that factory is complete and fitted out, b) has started producing Model Y's to consumers and c) is ready to do Right-Hand-Drive Model Y's (almost certainly they will focus on LHDs at the start).

I'm thinking 2022 at the earliest.

ELM327

There's no Y in ireland.

Gumbo

youngblood wrote: »

Ireland! I cant understand how there's one here considering they're only just released!

Spec savers is this way ——— - - ->

ELM327

Unless someone has shrank their X and put a M3 front on it, it wasnt a Y

Kramer

ELM327 wrote: »

Unless someone has shrank their X and put a M3 front on it, it wasnt a Y

Isn't that what Elon did?

Sabre Man

Most likely a Model 3 (or perhaps a Model X).

carloscorreia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH79SuivdAQ

@1min

reports of poor quality on Model Y
@1min in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONE-LTZxxr0&feature=emb_logo

Commentary suggests that Tesla need to ship and are intentionally shipping poor quality product.

zg3409

There is a video of a model Y in Germany. It was imported from USA and has USA charger not compatible with European chargers. Potentially that could be in Ireland under testing. This vehicle will be used by Tesla competitors available to hire to check it out. It cannot be hired by general public. They have tested many non released EVs in Ireland typically based out of a Sligo hotel. Some have camouflage paintwork. It is unlikely but there is one in Netherlands too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-europe-first-look-autopilot-supercharger-tests/amp/

https://insideevs.com/news/425607/tesla-model-y-germany-autobahn-range-test/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsHNN93Ty7Y

Oafley Jones

[Deleted User] wrote: »

reports of poor quality on Model Y
@1min in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONE-LTZxxr0&feature=emb_logo

Commentary suggests that Tesla need to ship and are intentionally shipping poor quality product.

Intentionally suggests that’s their goal. It isn’t. They just seem to want to get them out the door. Regardless of condition. I was watching a video yesterday of a tear down of a 3. Shocking state of affairs. Tesla just scored lowest manufacturer in the latest JD Power quality survey.

Edit. I kinda want to see Michael Keaton’s Gung Ho now.

AndyBoBandy

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I was watching a video yesterday of a tear down of a 3. Shocking state of affairs.

Was it one of the earlier 3's which were indeed dogged with production issues.

Issues that have largely been resolved over the last 6-8 months..

markpb

Are people really surprised by the poor quality of the initial shipments? It's not like Tesla don't have form for this.

ELM327

zg3409 wrote: »

There is a video of a model Y in Germany. It was imported from USA and has USA charger not compatible with European chargers. Potentially that could be in Ireland under testing. This vehicle will be used by Tesla competitors available to hire to check it out. It cannot be hired by general public. They have tested many non released EVs in Ireland typically based out of a Sligo hotel. Some have camouflage paintwork. It is unlikely but there is one in Netherlands too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-europe-first-look-autopilot-supercharger-tests/amp/

https://insideevs.com/news/425607/tesla-model-y-germany-autobahn-range-test/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsHNN93Ty7Y

You can now buy grey market adapters to use EU superchargers on US teslas.

Quality Control are supposed to stop the line where needed to fix the process which is producing poor quality product.
They obviously are not empowered to do that as Tesla needs to register sales in the quarter.

markpb

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Quality Control are supposed to stop the line where needed to fix the process which is producing poor quality product.
They obviously are not empowered to do that as Tesla needs to register sales in the quarter.

Or maybe all these faults are within tolerance, ie attached to the car => okay.

markpb

markpb wrote: »

Or maybe all these faults are within tolerance, ie attached to the car => okay.

If that is their threshold then you'd be better off staying with manufacturers from Korea, Japan or Europe.

youngblood

My earlier sighting during lockdown of the Tesla was confirmed to be a Tesla X today, only 8 mins down the road and it's just a beaut, got a spin today...... Heaven

carloscorreia

Elon Musk twitted that the Berlin built Model Y "is a revolution in automotive body engineering"

https://electrek.co/2020/07/10/elon-musk-tesla-german-built-model-y-is-revolution-auto-body-engineering/

Kramer

carloscorreia wrote: »

Elon Musk twitted that the Berlin built Model Y "is a revolution in automotive body engineering"

Freudian slip?

:P

He says lots of daft things though. He hasn't even redesigned the laughable cup holder in the Model 3/Y yet :rolleyes:.

mrbongo

Kramer wrote: »

He hasn't even redesigned the laughable cup holder in the Model 3/Y yet :rolleyes:.

Yes, the cup holder should be Elon's top priority, it's what's holding Tesla back no doubt /s

JPA

Will German engineering know how rub off on Tesla in their Berlin factory?

How did they end up in Germany anyway? There's surely lower cost countries they could have chosen.

KCross

JPA wrote: »

Will German engineering know how rub off on Tesla in their Berlin factory?

How did they end up in Germany anyway? There's surely lower cost countries they could have chosen.

They bought a German engineering company a year or two ago so yes is the answer I’d say.... google Grohmann engineering.

elektrik

JPA wrote: »

Will German engineering know how rub off on Tesla in their Berlin factory?

How did they end up in Germany anyway? There's surely lower cost countries they could have chosen.

The goal is to have a production line as automated as possible, and sometime in the far?/near? future have it completely automated (hence Grohmann Automation)

In that case it becomes counterproductive to choose countries based solely on their low cost of manual labour and it becomes much more important to be based in a diametrically opposite country, one that is politically, economically, socially and educationally as stable as possible.

Plus German engineering,
+ their OCD level obsession with everything being perfect
+ land in Berlin being way cheaper than other places in Germany
+ infrastructurally being in the heart of Europe
+ new European go-to place for young professionals and designers
= BERLIN

Kramer

mrbongo wrote: »

Yes, the cup holder should be Elon's top priority, it's what's holding Tesla back no doubt /s

It would be a priority if you had a lap full of scorching hot coffee within seconds of leaving the services .

But yes, I agree, Tesla should not be criticized or questioned for their many shortcomings.

My sincerest apologies for any offense caused.

Looking forward to redesigned cup holders in German built Model Ys in the coming years.

.

carloscorreia

Model Y RWD coming soon... to the US

https://insideevs.com/news/433666/tesla-model-y-single-motor-rwd-300-miles/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-all-articles

Kramer

carloscorreia wrote: »

Model Y RWD coming soon...

I thought that was RHD at first glance & thought what the heck would the yanks do with RHD :pac:.

.....or a gearstick, .....or clutch.....or roundabout.......or voting.......

unkel

US price drop of the LR AWD from USD52,995 to USD49,995. That's a full USD10k cheaper than the Ford Mach-E

Looks like Tesla is doing to the competition what some people thought the competition would do to Tesla (kill it) a few years ago

Interesting times! Pity we won't get the Model Y here in Europe until at least 2022. That's a very long time away...

ELM327

I was watching a few reviews of the MY Performance. Man does it look good in midnight silver metallic with the black uber turbines.

Third_Echelon

unkel wrote: »

US price drop of the LR AWD from USD52,995 to USD49,995. That's a full USD10k cheaper than the Ford Mach-E

Looks like Tesla is doing to the competition what some people thought the competition would do to Tesla (kill it) a few years ago

Interesting times! Pity we won't get the Model Y here in Europe until at least 2022. That's a very long time away...

I've seen a few in the wild starting to pop up (Bay Area, California) and they are FUGLY! Just don't have the sleekness and lines of the 3, nor the large size of the X. It's a compromise model for me... Mach-E even though more expensive I think will still be very competitive.

unkel

Third_Echelon wrote: »

I've seen a few in the wild starting to pop up (Bay Area, California) and they are FUGLY! Just don't have the sleekness and lines of the 3, nor the large size of the X. It's a compromise model for me... Mach-E even though more expensive I think will still be very competitive.

Model 3 is no looker either, yet it is the best selling vehicle where you are, in California.