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Does Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians?

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    #1052
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,984 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Edgware wrote: »
    How stupid are the Palestinians? They will march up to the fence, act up until Israel responds and a few get killed. ( not any of the Hamas leadership though)
    Poor leaderships on both sides canonly see force as a means of solving the problem

    tbh i'd suggest that they aren't stupid at all. they know israel doesn't need any excuse to go on a rampage. they likely know that the world, slowly but surely, is waking up to israel's behaviour, so they help israel dig a bigger hole for itself.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1053
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    end of the road wrote: »
    tbh i'd suggest that they aren't stupid at all. they know israel doesn't need any excuse to go on a rampage. they likely know that the world, slowly but surely, is waking up to israel's behaviour, so they help israel dig a bigger hole for itself.

    I'd like to confidently state that this may well be the most ill thought out and ridiculous post ever to appear on Boards.

    So, the Palestinians KNOW that at some point "the world will wake up" and somehow punish Israel ? (Like those poor sods haven't suffered enough).

    And instead of sitting back safely and going "our day will come lads" - they attack heavily armed IDF commandos ?

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #1054
    end of the road
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    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    So, the Palestinians KNOW that at some point "the world will wake up" and somehow punish Israel ? (Like those poor sods haven't suffered enough).

    yes, i think they may believe that. and they aren't wrong, the world is slowly waking up to israel's behaviour.

    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    And instead of sitting back safely and going "our day will come lads" - they attack heavily armed IDF commandos ?

    they simply protest, or throw a few rocks yes . because they know the IDF don't need any excuse to mow them down. ultimately, israel digs it's own hole and is quick to respond to anything a palestinian does with high force. either way, the palestinians have nothing to lose but long term, possibly something to gain.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1055
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    And whilst the ride has been mildly amusing but fun - the ignore club beckons......


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    #1056
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Do be people not understand the difference between Hamas and the Palestinian population. Do people not understand the difference between Netanhyu and the IDF to the general Israeli population.


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    #1057
    Jamsiek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    end of the road wrote: »
    yes, i think they may believe that. and they aren't wrong, the world is slowly waking up to israel's behaviour.

    they simply protest, or throw a few rocks yes . because they know the IDF don't need any excuse to mow them down. ultimately, israel digs it's own hole and is quick to respond to anything a palestinian does with high force. either way, the palestinians have nothing to lose but long term, possibly something to gain.

    It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks about Israel.
    They have been doing the same thing since they existed and nothing happened.
    The US will continue to use its veto and nothing will change.
    The UN is in desperate need of restructuring IMO


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    #1058
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Kind of hard for them to wake up when they own the US politicians ( Rothschilds etc).


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    #1059
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,984 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks about Israel.
    They have been doing the same thing since they existed and nothing happened.
    The US will continue to use its veto and nothing will change.
    The UN is in desperate need of restructuring IMO


    things will change. the boycott movement is growing. israel will be put back in it's box, it's a case of when and not if, and the US veto, which only effects the UN, won't help them. the game is up. the UN most certainly needs some sort of re-structuring and the US veto should be removed. nobody should be able to single handidly veto UN action. if that means the US leaves, as unfortunate as that may be, it's a case of so be it.
    Taytoland wrote: »
    Kind of hard for them to wake up when they own the US politicians ( Rothschilds etc).


    the US can only do so much. they can "own" the US politicians all they like but the US isn't the rest of the world. they can try smear campaigns and the usual hasbara nonsense but that is no longer working.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1060
    Jamsiek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    end of the road wrote: »
    things will change. the boycott movement is growing. israel will be put back in it's box, it's a case of when and not if, and the US veto, which only effects the UN, won't help them. the game is up.

    I hope you're right.
    However, they are getting billions of free dollars from the US government and rich Jewish donors.
    They are also in an unholy alliance with the Saudis (the Saudis don't like to talk about that for obvious reasons) against the Iranians.


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    #1061
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    end of the road wrote: »
    Jamsiek wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks about Israel.
    They have been doing the same thing since they existed and nothing happened.
    The US will continue to use its veto and nothing will change.
    The UN is in desperate need of restructuring IMO


    things will change. the boycott movement is growing. israel will be put back in it's box, it's a case of when and not if, and the US veto, which only effects the UN, won't help them. the game is up. the UN most certainly needs some sort of re-structuring and the US veto should be removed. nobody should be able to single handidly veto UN action. if that means the US leaves, as unfortunate as that may be, it's a case of so be it.
    Taytoland wrote: »
    Kind of hard for them to wake up when they own the US politicians ( Rothschilds etc).


    the US can only do so much. they can "own" the US politicians all they like but the US isn't the rest of the world. they can try smear campaigns and the usual hasbara nonsense but that is no longer working.
    Israel is a US state by another name.


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    #1062
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Taytoland wrote: »
    Israel is a US state by another name.


    A bit of nonsense, tbh.


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    #1063
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,984 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    I hope you're right.
    However, they are getting billions of free dollars from the US government and rich Jewish donors.
    They are also in an unholy alliance with the Saudis (the Saudis don't like to talk about that for obvious reasons) against the Iranians.


    agreed, and those issues are problematic. however, people power is a good thing, and it can and does work. eventually the calls to do something will be such that even the US government won't have a choice but to actually put pressure on israel to stop it's unacceptible behaviour and go back within it's actual borders. i think i will see it in my lifetime, but it will take time.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1064
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Taytoland wrote: »
    Israel is a US state by another name.


    A bit of nonsense, tbh.
    Propped up by the highly influential political Jewish lobby in the US. Look at all the differences between Democrats and Republicans and even during this time of all times the one thing which unites them more than any other issue is Israel. That tells you all you need to know. Mainstream US politicians are in the back pocket of this lobby.


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    #1065
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Edgware wrote: »
    How stupid are the Palestinians? They will march up to the fence, act up until Israel responds and a few get killed. ( not any of the Hamas leadership though)
    Poor leaderships on both sides canonly see force as a means of solving the problem

    You're confusing Hamas with Palestinian.
    They were right to protest the Israeli regime.
    Imagine Irish protesters being killed and a Canadian doctor helping the injured being shot by the British and some bright spark saying 'Sure they're all IRA anyway'?

    I'd be very surprised is Mosad had operatives infiltrating organisations around the world, using fake passports and the like, everywhere but their own doorstep.

    Protecting the oil in the Golan heights for Jewish freedom is it?


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    #1066
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Some more big news on the BDS front, Airbnb says it will stop listing places in West Bank settlements. The practical effect is of course minimal, but it's another important blow against the normalisation of the West Bank settlements


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    #1067
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,602 ✭✭✭Feisar


    dublincelt wrote: »
    To the lovers of the state of Israel on here, a question.

    What threat did Abu Thurayeh pose to result in him being shot dead by an Israeli sniper? Abu Thurayeh, a double leg amputee. For the audacity to wave a Palestinian flag?

    29dbjm8.jpg

    To be fair, I think Darwin got him.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #1068
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Airbnb says it will stop listing places in West Bank settlements.

    I'm sure that was a thriving market.


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    #1069
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,602 ✭✭✭Feisar


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    I'd like to confidently state that this may well be the most ill thought out and ridiculous post ever to appear on Boards.

    So, the Palestinians KNOW that at some point "the world will wake up" and somehow punish Israel ? (Like those poor sods haven't suffered enough).

    And instead of sitting back safely and going "our day will come lads" - they attack heavily armed IDF commandos ?

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Hey it worked for our lads in 1916. Pearce the clown, wrote of the great "blood sacrafice"

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #1070
    goose2005
    Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    end of the road wrote: »
    tbh i'd suggest that they aren't stupid at all. they know israel doesn't need any excuse to go on a rampage. they likely know that the world, slowly but surely, is waking up to israel's behaviour, so they help israel dig a bigger hole for itself.

    the world has been "waking up" to Israel's behaviour for 50+ years now.


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    #1071
    VeryTerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭VeryTerry


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    I'm sure that was a thriving market.

    You would be surprised. Tons of yanks flocking to their homeland every week in that part of the world.


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    #1072
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    I'm sure that was a thriving market.
    Well duh

    The practical effect is of course minimal


    It's hardly the point though


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    #1073
    Irish Praetorian
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    Feisar wrote: »
    Hey it worked for our lads in 1916. Pearce the clown, wrote of the great "blood sacrafice"


    To be fair, it didn't exactly work out on those parts of the island where the nationalists weren't in a majority, which is now the issue with various parts of Palestine.


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    #1074
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Some more big news on the BDS front, Airbnb says it will stop listing places in West Bank settlements. The practical effect is of course minimal, but it's another important blow against the normalisation of the West Bank settlements


    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46269704

    Yep. It's why they're terrified of BDS - apart from any financial penalty, it begs the question "why?". It took 30-40 years to get the anti-apartheid movement going but hopefully with the internet etc things will be quicker this time round.


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    #1075
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    BDS has been around over 13 years now and has had a negligible impact, especially when you have people like this as one of its leaders, it does not look like its going to make much of a difference.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/watch-drunk-irish-woman-arrested-air-india


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    #1076
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    markodaly wrote: »
    BDS has been around over 13 years now and has had a negligible impact, especially when you have people like this as one of its leaders, it does not look like its going to make much of a difference.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/watch-drunk-irish-woman-arrested-air-india

    That's priceless. She's all for fighting racism and sticking up for minority rights until they refuse to give her more wine.


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    #1077
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,984 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    markodaly wrote: »
    BDS has been around over 13 years now and has had a negligible impact, especially when you have people like this as one of its leaders, it does not look like its going to make much of a difference.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/watch-drunk-irish-woman-arrested-air-india

    movements like this generally take time to build and grow and become effective. 13 years is quite a short time frame to expect huge results. the movement does seem to be having an effect though, which is all that ultimately matters.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1078
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    markodaly wrote: »
    BDS has been around over 13 years now and has had a negligible impact, especially when you have people like this as one of its leaders, it does not look like its going to make much of a difference.

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/watch-drunk-irish-woman-arrested-air-india


    As already stated, it takes time, and is actually on a faster track than the anti-apartheid campaign.



    And a movement is rarely defined by one of its members.


    Why are you hostile to a non-violent form of dissent and protest?


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    #1079
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Odhinn wrote: »

    And a movement is rarely defined by one of its members.

    I'll quote this back to you in time when it does not suit your argument.
    Why are you hostile to a non-violent form of dissent and protest?

    Hostile? I am merely ambivalent about it. Does one have a right to be ambivalent about a movement?


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    #1080
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,983 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    markodaly wrote: »
    I'll quote this back to you in time when it does not suit your argument.



    Hostile? I am merely ambivalent about it. Does one have a right to be ambivalent about a movement?




    You sound rather more than ambivalent here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108646571&postcount=6


    Why are you "ambivalent" about it?


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    #1081
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Odhinn wrote: »
    You sound rather more than ambivalent here

    BDS has a number of loons in their ranks. Seeing as you did not run to Simone O'Broin's defense, I presume you concede that point.
    Why are you "ambivalent" about it?

    Because I am.


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