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Does Israel want to wipe out the Palestinians?

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    #992
    Strabanimal
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    It's a very similar situation to ours in the North not so long ago. Maybe you can set up hospitals and such at the border, but we all know you're too soft to do anything as genetic sellouts.


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    #993
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,437 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Thanks just voted NO in the poll! Glad to see that the No side is ahead in the poll.


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    #994
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Thanks just voted NO in the poll! Glad to see that the No side is ahead in the poll.


    Why?


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    #995
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Thanks just voted NO in the poll! Glad to see that the No side is ahead in the poll.

    You should get the offical hasbara app, it sends out missions telling you where to comment and vote so you'll never miss one again

    https://act-il.com/act-il-app/


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    #996
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,437 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Why?

    Why not? I won't get into it with you or the other anti-Israel posters on here including mods as it seems to be fine to call people names if you support Israel t but sugesst any one is a leftist anti-Israel anti-jew you get banned,.


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    #997
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Why not? I won't get into it with you or the other anti-Israel posters on here including mods as it seems to be fine to call people names if you support Israel t but sugesst any one is a leftist anti-Israel anti-jew you get banned,.




    ....as is only appropriate, when you make groundless accusations. You seem to be saying that you've no explanation for your stance save name calling and labelling.


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    #998
    Greyfox
    Registered Users Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Why not? I won't get into it with you or the other anti-Israel posters on here..

    How do you explain the map of the area now compared to 50 years ago? The map very very clearly shows Israel has expanded dramatically in that time and Palestine has shrunk dramatically, Palestine will continue to get smaller until theres pretty much nothing left and nothing can stop this. anybody who thinks otherwise may as well be believing that the earth is flat.


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    #999
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Those crazy israelis with their poll manipulations and vote rigging. A great bunch of lads.

    They should probably just stick to robbing passports and Irish people's identity, it's far more effective for them.


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    #1000
    Madagascan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Madagascan


    skepticalme wrote: »
    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    The big question really is,
    What are yeh all going to do about it?
    Easy sitting back being a bunch of Keyboard Warriors, but who can or Will do something about it??


    As individuals we can boycott Israeli products.
    At the minimum make sure politicians know we want them to support the occupied territories bill to boycott goods from the settlements on stolen land.
    Spread the word, amazing how little some people know about palastinians and the hell Israel makes their lives.
    Yes a boycott could be a good idea.
    Would mean Israel earn less money.
    Then they have to give Gazza less money.
    As you know Israel funds Gazza for millions.
    That will mean Hamas has less money to build tunnels to attack Israel and launch missiles.
    It is estimated 90% of the money that is sent to Gazza is used by Hamas to attack Israel.


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    #1001
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Madagascan wrote: »
    Yes a boycott could be a good idea.
    Would mean Israel earn less money.
    Then they have to give Gazza less money.
    As you know Israel funds Gazza for millions.
    That will mean Hamas has less money to build tunnels to attack Israel and launch missiles.
    It is estimated 90% of the money that is sent to Gazza is used by Hamas to attack Israel.


    I remember such arguments from when they were used to oppose sanctions on Apartheid South Africa. They made no sense then, nor now.



    You realise that Gaza is actually not the home of the majority of Palestinians? That hamas is in fact the smaller faction in Palestinian politics?


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    #1002
    skepticalme
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭skepticalme


    That poll is a joke. Over 8000 shares on facebook, over 96,500 votes since yesterday. Holding steady at 50% no. Who could be still voting like crazy at this hour on a weekend??


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    #1003
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    skepticalme wrote: »
    That poll is a joke. Over 8000 shares on facebook, over 96,500 votes since yesterday. Holding steady at 50% no. Who could be still voting like crazy at this hour on a weekend??

    hasbara bots most likely.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1004
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Madagascan wrote: »
    Yes a boycott could be a good idea.
    Would mean Israel earn less money.
    Then they have to give Gazza less money.
    As you know Israel funds Gazza for millions.
    That will mean Hamas has less money to build tunnels to attack Israel and launch missiles.
    It is estimated 90% of the money that is sent to Gazza is used by Hamas to attack Israel.

    Why are Israel giving Gazza money?? Has he drank all his own??


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    #1005
    Madagascan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Madagascan


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Madagascan wrote: »
    Yes a boycott could be a good idea.
    Would mean Israel earn less money.
    Then they have to give Gazza less money.
    As you know Israel funds Gazza for millions.
    That will mean Hamas has less money to build tunnels to attack Israel and launch missiles.
    It is estimated 90% of the money that is sent to Gazza is used by Hamas to attack Israel.






    You realise that Gaza is actually not the home of the majority of Palestinians? That hamas is in fact the smaller faction in Palestinian politics?

    Yes.
    The Palestinians don't have a Homeland, they refuse to have one.
    They want the land of Israel and to kill all the Jewish people in it.
    You all know this and still support Hamas?
    This really comes down to Jew hatred, can't be anything else.


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    #1006
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,493 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Madagascan wrote: »
    Yes.
    The Palestinians don't have a Homeland, they refuse to have one.
    They want the land of Israel and to kill all the Jewish people in it.
    You all know this and still support Hamas?
    This really comes down to Jew hatred, can't be anything else.

    You really must try harder. Poor attempt.:D


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    #1007
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Isn't this thread a little too sombre for After Hours?

    From the charter...

    What is After Hours?
    After hours is the place to come on boards where general discussion can be light-hearted. The aim here is to have a bit of a laugh and not to piss anybody off while doing so.


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    #1008
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Isn't this thread a little too sombre for After Hours?

    From the charter...

    What is After Hours?
    After hours is the place to come on boards where general discussion can be light-hearted. The aim here is to have a bit of a laugh and not to piss anybody off while doing so.
    Not realistic.


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    #1009
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Taytoland wrote: »
    Not realistic.

    Two popular After Hours threads were closed this week for that very reason.


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    #1010
    frosty123
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭frosty123


    Seth Yellow Cobra wrote: »
    Apartheid Israel has brought barbaric treatment to a whole new level

    Isreal is the only democratic country in the middle east, jew and arabs live side by side with generally no hassle, gay rights are upheld, women rights are upheld....try being openly gay in an islamic country like Palestine and see what happens? you'd be lynched

    that doesn't excuse what the Isreali army are doing, but calling it an Aparteid state is utter nonsense


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    #1011
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    frosty123 wrote: »
    Isreal is the only democratic country in the middle east, jew and arabs live side by side with generally no hassle, gay rights are upheld, women rights are upheld....try being openly gay in an islamic country like Palestine and see what happens? you'd be lynched

    that doesn't excuse what the Isreali army are doing, but calling it an Aparteid state is utter nonsense

    You know more than the largest Israeli newspaper?

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/the-apartheid-prime-minister-1.6319599


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    #1012
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    You know more than the largest Israeli newspaper?

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/the-apartheid-prime-minister-1.6319599

    Size isn't everything. That's the equivalent of the Guardian but even more left - it makes a decent, balanced paper look like the S*n.


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    #1013
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    You know more than the largest Israeli newspaper?

    It's one of Israel's least popular papers with readership at a paltry 3.9% of the market.


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    #1014
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    frosty123 wrote: »
    women rights are upheld.

    well, seems not in certain circumstances.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/02/27/the-precarious-balance-of-womens-rights-in-israel/

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1015
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    It's one of Israel's least popular papers with readership at a paltry 3.9% of the market.

    that doesn't make what it is saying wrong however. popularity doesn't decide the validity of content.
    i believe the sun is the most popular paper in the uk for example.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #1016
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    It's one of Israel's least popular papers with readership at a paltry 3.9% of the market.

    Apologies, I was mistaken regarding the paper's popularity.


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    #1017
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    end of the road wrote: »
    well, seems not in certain circumstances.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/02/27/the-precarious-balance-of-womens-rights-in-israel/

    You might want to try and actually read that story.


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    #1018
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    frosty123 wrote: »
    Isreal is the only democratic country in the middle east, jew and arabs live side by side with generally no hassle, gay rights are upheld, women rights are upheld....try being openly gay in an islamic country like Palestine and see what happens? you'd be lynched

    that doesn't excuse what the Isreali army are doing, but calling it an Aparteid state is utter nonsense


    In the occupied territories there are "settler" only roads and areas, and a two tier "justice" system, whereby "settlers" have access to Israeli law but their palestinian neighbours are dealt with by martial law administrated by the IDF. That there is apartheid.
    https://www.yesh-din.org/en/reports-data/?refineByType=68


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    #1019
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,851 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    frosty123 wrote: »
    Isreal is the only democratic country in the middle east, jew and arabs live side by side with generally no hassle, gay rights are upheld, women rights are upheld....try being openly gay in an islamic country like Palestine and see what happens? you'd be lynched

    that doesn't excuse what the Isreali army are doing, but calling it an Aparteid state is utter nonsense

    Can you explain to me how a Jew and non-Jew can get married in Israel?

    (Clue:it's a trick question, they can't).

    Can you tell me about the Israeli constitution?

    (Clue:it's a trick question, they don't have one).

    Israel is not a democracy and it is an apartheid state.

    Recent legislation will also bring about Jewish only areas inside Israel to add to the Jewish only areas in the Occupied West Bank.


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    #1020
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,493 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    frosty123 wrote: »
    Isreal is the only democratic country in the middle east, jew and arabs live side by side with generally no hassle, gay rights are upheld, women rights are upheld....try being openly gay in an islamic country like Palestine and see what happens? you'd be lynched

    that doesn't excuse what the Isreali army are doing, but calling it an Aparteid state is utter nonsense

    You might ask the Palestinian women if they feel their rights are being upheld.
    I know the answer you'll get and so do you,


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    #1021
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Odhinn wrote: »
    Why?

    Why not?  I won't get into it with you or the other anti-Israel posters on here including mods as it seems to be fine to call people names if you support Israel t but sugesst any one is a leftist anti-Israel anti-jew you get banned,.
    Well I defend the Jews on here all the time and will continue to do so and I think people on here respect that.


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