Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

blinding · 02-11-2018 07:16PM

mickdw wrote: »

Are you saying we need Nigel Firage?

He has done excellent work getting his country out of the Eu . Not even a shot fired . Irish republicans have a lot to learn from Nigel Farage .

Idbatterim · 02-11-2018 07:26PM

no but seeing as we only have left of the political spectrum to choose from, they need a proper articulate hard liner, to counter the the entirely one sided spin you receive from media and politicians here!

normanoffside · 02-11-2018 07:37PM

tretorn wrote: »

No way in hell are halting sites going into Monkstown, there is lots of land in Cherrywood so the council will probably stick a few up there.

There's already a halting site in Monkstown to be fair

SafeSurfer · 02-11-2018 07:45PM

Someone to lead a new right of centre political moment in Ireland?

Michael Mc Dowell is a great debater who has wiped the floor with lefties such as Gerry Adams in the past.

Someone with a clearly thought, logical, rational political position and who is politically informed is essential. What is not needed is a reactionary who says the first thing that comes into his head.

Fann Linn · 02-11-2018 07:47PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Someone to lead a new right of centre political moment in Ireland?

Michael Mc Dowell is a great debater who has wiped the floor with lefties such as Gerry Adams in the past.

Someone with a clearly thought, logical, rational political position and who is politically informed is essential. What is not needed is a reactionary who says the first thing that comes into his head.

PDs and Renua? Oh no.

Redneck Culchie · 02-11-2018 07:50PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Someone to lead a new right of centre political moment in Ireland?

Michael Mc Dowell is a great debater who has wiped the floor with lefties such as Gerry Adams in the past.

Someone with a clearly thought, logical, rational political position and who is politically informed is essential. What is not needed is a reactionary who says the first thing that comes into his head.

McDowell
Declan Ganley
John Waters

Not really sold on Hermann Kelly and this Irexit stuff. Irexit is not a winning strategy at all.

Try_harder · 02-11-2018 07:54PM

blinding wrote: »

He has done excellent work getting his country out of the Eu . Not even a shot fired . Irish republicans have a lot to learn from Nigel Farage .

An MP was killed by right wing supporter

SafeSurfer · 02-11-2018 07:54PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

McDowell
Declan Ganley
John Waters

Not really sold on Hermann Kelly and this Irexit stuff. Irexit is not a winning strategy at all.

I’ve watched some of John Waters recent interviews and read his new book.

Let’s just say I don’t think he is cut out for politics.

CatFromHue · 02-11-2018 07:56PM

**** you SafeSurfer, **** you, you're only a bollix, go and interview Una Mullaly

tayto lover · 02-11-2018 07:56PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I’ve watched some of John Waters recent interviews and read his new book.

Let’s just say I don’t think he is cut out for politics.

I don't believe he's cut out for anything.

blinding · 02-11-2018 07:57PM

Try_harder wrote: »

An MP was killed by right wing supporter

An MP was killed by a Nutter (Ok , Right Wing ) .

Nobody knows for certain why this Nutter did what he did . The Clue is in Nutter .

SafeSurfer · 02-11-2018 07:59PM

Try_harder wrote: »

An MP was killed by right wing supporter

Many people have been killed by left wing Sinn Fein supporters.

Other people have been killed by Manchester United supporters and Beatles fans.

Your post is meaningless.

normanoffside · 02-11-2018 08:00PM

If Casey goes with these right wingers I'm out. He had a huge working class vote who will not vote for McDowell, Waters, Ganley and the like

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 08:02PM

blinding wrote: »

An MP was killed by a Nutter (Ok , Right Wing ) .

Nobody knows for certain why this Nutter did what he did . The Clue is in Nutter .

He shouted Britain First before shooting & stabbing her. Anti-immigration & right-wing paraphernalia found in his flat. Stirred up like so many others by the Brexit campaign and other xenophobic nonsense. Including plenty now being directed at Ireland.

That's not the route for us to go down.

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 08:06PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Many people have been killed by left wing Sinn Fein supporters.

Other people have been killed by Manchester United supporters and Beatles fans.

Your post is meaningless.

Forget the whataboutery. The OP said that no shots were fired during the Brexit campaign. Not true. And you've also got to take in all the racist attacks since the vote, directly accredited by the police to the campaign and result.

SafeSurfer · 02-11-2018 08:17PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Forget the whataboutery. The OP said that no shots were fired during the Brexit campaign. Not true. And you've also got to take in all the racist attacks since the vote, directly accredited by the police to the campaign and result.

You have no evidence, because none exists, that Jo Cox’s murderer was part of Nigel Farages campaign. He had a long history of mental health issues and had sought treatment but been turned away the night before the murder.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2018 08:18PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Forget the whataboutery. The OP said that no shots were fired during the Brexit campaign. Not true. And you've also got to take in all the racist attacks since the vote, directly accredited by the police to the campaign and result.

Brexit hasn't happened yet either.
As the Chinese leader said when asked what effects the French Revolution had on the world...'it's too early to say'.

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 08:37PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

You have no evidence, because none exists, that Jo Cox’s murderer was part of Nigel Farages campaign. He had a long history of mental health issues and had sought treatment but been turned away the night before the murder.

A pro-Brexit MP killed by an anti-Brexit supporter of Britain First in the middle of the referendum. Followed by the Leave campaign offering to suspend its campaign. And no link? Don't be disingenuous.

tretorn · 02-11-2018 08:47PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

He shouted Britain First before shooting & stabbing her. Anti-immigration & right-wing paraphernalia found in his flat. Stirred up like so many others by the Brexit campaign and other xenophobic nonsense. Including plenty now being directed at Ireland.

That's not the route for us to go down.

You have to die of something and I am dying of boredom listening to PC nutters like Seathrun.

You have had your day, noone is listening anymore, no one listened anyway but they were afraid to say out loud what they were thinking so the twitter mob got louder and louder.

Peter Casey has enabled people to say what they think, looking forward to the Late Late.

Dyr · 02-11-2018 08:52PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

A pro-Brexit MP killed by an anti-Brexit supporter of Britain First in the middle of the referendum. Followed by the Leave campaign offering to suspend its campaign. And no link? Don't be disingenuous.

Jaysus, you'll be blaming poor oul Bernie Sanders for the James Hodgkinson shootings next

Oh no wait, you won't

pumpkin4life · 02-11-2018 08:53PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I’ve watched some of John Waters recent interviews and read his new book.

Let’s just say I don’t think he is cut out for politics.

One thing John Waters needs to do, even though I do like the guy, is shave his head.

The baldie long hair look is a bit naff in my opinion and I think people don't take him as serious as they would because of this.

Anyways, Waters is a part of these nice, reasonable, fair play, right wing but not too right wing cause that would upset people, overly nice, kind of wimpish, cohort (also Ronan Mullen, Dave Quinn, John McGuirk) of lads who are wheeled out to be the useful idiots in an RTE debate and who make the same mistakes over and over again.

Not going to happen lads. Pull a Casey on it, its the only way this has a chance of working.

You have to go all in on this.

SafeSurfer · 02-11-2018 08:57PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

A pro-Brexit MP killed by an anti-Brexit supporter of Britain First in the middle of the referendum. Followed by the Leave campaign offering to suspend its campaign. And no link? Don't be disingenuous.

We are just arguing over semantics here.
When the OP said Farage had taken the UK out of Europe without a shot being fired I think most people understand the meaning of this. The shooting of Jo Cox was a terrible tragedy but it is a disingenuous stretch to say it was part of the Brexit campaign.

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 09:00PM

tretorn wrote: »

You have to die of something and I am dying of boredom listening to PC nutters like Seathrun.

You have had your day, noone is listening anymore, no one listened anyway but they were afraid to say out loud what they were thinking so the twitter mob got louder and louder.

Peter Casey has enabled people to say what they think, looking forward to the Late Late.

Didn't our candidate win the Presidential election with the largest ever share of the vote? Or am I missing something?

tretorn · 02-11-2018 09:02PM

People who voted for Brexit had no responsibility for Jo Coxes death, this is more nonsense posted by the liberals.

If they had paid attention to peoples concerns Brexit wouldnt have happened.

Irish people have now spoken in their droves on the traveller issue and its past time now for action to be taken.

The most effective action would be to set up a Garda unit to deal specifically with traveller crime, this would give Gardai experience in dealing with these people and give them an in depth knowledge regarding the major criminals. At the moment the travellers are running rings around officialdom, they have got used to being able to rack up conviction after conviction and each of those convictions has an effect on the lives of the poor victims.

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 09:04PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

We are just arguing over semantics here.
When the OP said Farage had taken the UK out of Europe without a shot being fired I think most people understand the meaning of this. The shooting of Jo Cox was a terrible tragedy but it is a disingenuous stretch to say it was part of the Brexit campaign.

The OP was saying that no violence. And utterly untrue given the Jo Cox tragedy plus hundreds of attacks on east Europeans, Muslims & others post July 2016.

And don't forget, the UK is far from being out of the EU. Much still to happen and sadly NI could be a victim of the Tory party's internal squabbles. Any gunfire there will be a direct result of this referendum.

Edward M · 02-11-2018 09:06PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

A pro-Brexit MP killed by an anti-Brexit supporter of Britain First in the middle of the referendum. Followed by the Leave campaign offering to suspend its campaign. And no link? Don't be disingenuous.

There are extremists in the UK capable of such violence as could lead to serious trouble over the brexit issue.
The national front is a dangerous outfit for instance.
Comparisons with anything to do with EU exit here or in Britain after what Casey said is probably making a disengenuous attempt to bring that real hard right wing element into the argument here.
What a lot of Casey supporters want is not a right wing agenda, but a centrist one that is strong enough not to pander towards the left for the sake of votes, throwing hard earned taxes down rabbit holes for fcuk all and giving houses and such to certain groupings who appear to show fcuk all appreciation for what they get and just seem to demand more no matter what they are offered.
There is a happy medium here, but its being abused right, left and center at the minute.

tretorn · 02-11-2018 09:10PM

Seathrun66 wrote: »

The OP was saying that no violence. And utterly untrue given the Jo Cox tragedy plus hundreds of attacks on east Europeans, Muslims & others post July 2016.

And don't forget, the UK is far from being out of the EU. Much still to happen and sadly NI could be a victim of the Tory party's internal squabbles. Any gunfire there will be a direct result of this referendum.

The biggest attacks in Europe have been committed by Muslims, dont forget crazed Muslims sticking long knives into young women on the streets of London.

Muslims planting bombs where eight year old children were attending a concert in Manchester, the Muslims bann music so no one is allowed to enjoy a concert, take your feudal nonsense and feck off back to wherever the majority want to live like that.

Not forgetting the Paris attacks or the poor Japanese man stabbed to death in Drogheda.

end of the road · 02-11-2018 09:15PM

tretorn wrote: »

You have to die of something and I am dying of boredom listening to PC nutters like Seathrun.

You have had your day, noone is listening anymore, no one listened anyway but they were afraid to say out loud what they were thinking so the twitter mob got louder and louder.

Peter Casey has enabled people to say what they think, looking forward to the Late Late.

our day is still here. leftism and centrist politics are the way forward. right wing and far right politics have continuously been rejected except for a couple of cases. very few people were afraid to say what they were thinking out lowd. peter Casey hasn't enabled people to say what they think, as the people he supposibly enabled always did say what they thought, but played the victim when challenged on their view and complained of being silenced.

tretorn wrote: »

People who voted for Brexit had no responsibility for Jo Coxes death, this is more nonsense posted by the liberals.

If they had paid attention to peoples concerns Brexit wouldnt have happened.

Irish people have now spoken in their droves on the traveller issue and its past time now for action to be taken.

The most effective action would be to set up a Garda unit to deal specifically with traveller crime, this would give Gardai experience in dealing with these people and give them an in depth knowledge regarding the major criminals. At the moment the travellers are running rings around officialdom, they have got used to being able to rack up conviction after conviction and each of those convictions has an effect on the lives of the poor victims.

they did pay attention to people's concerns. brexit would have still happened anyway because enough people were gullible enough to fall for the nonsense that was spread by the leave campaign. ironically enough brexit won't change anything in terms of their concerns. government still won't invest in public services, there will still be openings for large scale immigration, even if less actually emmigrate to britain.
the most effective action against traveler and any crime, would be to give the gardai the funding, resources and manpower to actually deal with crime. there is no need for a dedicated garda unit to focus on traveler specific crime.

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 09:20PM

tretorn wrote: »

People who voted for Brexit had no responsibility for Jo Coxes death, this is more nonsense posted by the liberals.

If they had paid attention to peoples concerns Brexit wouldnt have happened.

Irish people have now spoken in their droves on the traveller issue and its past time now for action to be taken.

The most effective action would be to set up a Garda unit to deal specifically with traveller crime, this would give Gardai experience in dealing with these people and give them an in depth knowledge regarding the major criminals. At the moment the travellers are running rings around officialdom, they have got used to being able to rack up conviction after conviction and each of those convictions has an effect on the lives of the poor victims.

Who has ever said that? Don't make such wild leaps of fantasy. What is clear is that the xenophobic campaign stirred up Thomas Mair to commit his action. And that of several hundred thugs since.

Seathrun66 · 02-11-2018 09:21PM

tretorn wrote: »

The biggest attacks in Europe have been committed by Muslims, dont forget crazed Muslims sticking long knives into young women on the streets of London.

Muslims planting bombs where eight year old children were attending a concert in Manchester, the Muslims bann music so no one is allowed to enjoy a concert, take your feudal nonsense and feck off back to wherever the majority want to live like that.

Not forgetting the Paris attacks or the poor Japanese man stabbed to death in Drogheda.

More whataboutery. Please address the points made about violence caused by Brexit.

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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