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Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,102 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Did Casey not pay his taxes? I've seen it mentioned a few times but nothing to back it up.

    Casey is / was / is an american resident and pays his taxes there. Not here.

    Its basic taxation. He has pretended that he is coming back to live, but who knows he has said alot of inaccuracies in the last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,893 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    There's one on Virgin Media One now talking about introducing teaching traveller culture in schools. It's on the Elaine show so I won't br watching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,560 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Heres the guys story. To be fair the clubs officers are backing him, so it seems very unlikely he is making it up.
    http://clarechampion.ie/travellers-racism/

    That seems to have been real abuse and it shouldn't have happened.
    Unlike the kind Casey was accused of which wasn't abuse at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,102 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    That seems to have been real abuse and it shouldn't have happened.
    Unlike the kind Casey was accused of which wasn't abuse at all.

    Casey wasnt abusing anyone , he was however selling Air to get himself in the Papers.

    Worked a charm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    tretorn wrote: »
    Travellers are a huge problem in Clare.
    A friend who moved from South Dublin to Ennis had never had sn opinion either way on travellers. She cant believe how anti christian she is towards them now but they have caused her a lot of grief.
    When I hear Pavee Point remind travellers to obey the laws of the land then I might get exercised about travellers being called names.
    I did note that one of the officials said the snti traveller sentiment has got worse since they got ethnic status, maybe that wasnt such a good idea after all.

    All the more reason (as well as societal equity) that halting sites should be placed in richer areas, particularly in Dublin.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Anyway I’m a bit worried about a trip down the country this weekend what with all the fascism.

    Is it safe, do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Anyway I’m a bit worried about a trip down the country this weekend what with all the fascism.

    Is it safe, do you think?

    I'd bring a hurl. Just in case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Anyway I’m a bit worried about a trip down the country this weekend what with all the fascism.

    Is it safe, do you think?

    We're having a cross burning in Murphy's field tomorrow at 6pm.

    You'd be more than welcome to attend Mr Von Peppercorn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    listermint wrote: »
    Casey wasnt abusing anyone , he was however selling Air to get himself in the Papers.

    Worked a charm.

    The media were the ones who couldn't get over it and kept asking him questions on it. It's laughable to suggest it was him who wanted to keep harping on about travellers. It was entirely the media circus getting themselves into a frenzy over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Should be some fun on the Late Late tonight...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,474 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Rich boy Barrett on ivan yates at the moment saying that Peter Casey shouldn't be given airtime on the late late tonight. The irony of the leader of a 1% party saying a 23% guy shouldn't get airtime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    All the more reason (as well as societal equity) that halting sites should be placed in richer areas, particularly in Dublin.

    Why are the government building halting sites?

    Or why are they still bring "placed" anywhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,243 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    We're having a cross burning in Murphy's field tomorrow at 6pm.

    That's a lie!




    *Murphy's don't have a field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Rich boy Barrett on ivan yates at the moment saying that Peter Casey shouldn't be given airtime on the late late tonight. The irony of the leader of a 1% party saying a 23% guy shouldn't get airtime

    And the funny thing is, even at his most unpopular he was on 2%!!!

    You f###king idiot Barrett!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Rich boy Barrett on ivan yates at the moment saying that Peter Casey shouldn't be given airtime on the late late tonight. The irony of the leader of a 1% party saying a 23% guy shouldn't get airtime
    Some of these Guys must be on drugs ! !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭omega man


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Rich boy Barrett on ivan yates at the moment saying that Peter Casey shouldn't be given airtime on the late late tonight. The irony of the leader of a 1% party saying a 23% guy shouldn't get airtime

    He was handed his arse by John McGuirk and listener texts. I enjoyed that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,464 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    omega man wrote: »
    He was handed his arse by John McGuirk and listener texts. I enjoyed that.

    NOooice one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    The reason why travellers want to be recognised as an ‘ethnic minority’ has fcuk all to with their history or race. It’s about getting handouts. It’s an ‘entitlement minority’ which they actually should be classed as and not an an ‘ethnic minority’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,624 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    There's a question I hope is placed tonight by someone, and hopefully someone can answer it legitimately. It was been referred to earlier, and got the typical (but not far from the truth) replies.

    What constitutes a traveller? All I can find is 'traditionally itinerant ethnic group who maintain a set of traditions', but can't find what those traditions are. The Wiki article (the only place with a decent amount of information with references) also states 'Travellers have a distinctive approach to religion; the vast majority are practising Roman Catholics with particular attention paid to issues of healing.[49] They have been known to follow a strict code of behaviour that dictates some of their moral beliefs and influences their actions.'

    So, all I can really gather is devout catholics with set traditions who are itinerant. Definition of itinerant: 'a person who travels from place to place.'

    So now we have a position of a protected group who traditionally travel, but are now demanding permanent houses for free, and then refusing to move into them because there are no stables. Now, is there any other group in Ireland that gets this special treatment? As far as I can tell, travellers were well regarded and sought after back in the day, as they were called tinkers and lived up to the name: a person who makes a living by travelling from place to place mending pans and other metal utensils. They did just this, shoeing horses, etc. There's no need for that now, just like a lot of older jobs, but unlike other olde jobs, Travellers have not moved with the times. There is no need for their services or wares anymore. But they refuse to move with the times, still demanding they be left do what they do but still get everything for free.

    Whya re we bulding halting sites? Why can't they pay like everyone else who wants to move around from place to place? Yes, years ago they could just shack up on the side of the road, but you can't do that anymore due to health and safety, and privacy/ownership rights. But they still do, and nothing can be done about it. If I parked a caravan on the side of the road, it wouldn't be long before I'm forced to move it. Because of the protected status of travellers, Gardai cannot just move them now, and need either a statement of complaint from the property owner (which some are reluctant to give as it could end up in court), or an order has to be received from the public owner (ie: Government bodies) to have them removed from public property. I know this, because that's what I used to have to do as a Garda.

    I'm all for people living their lives the way they want. I'm one of them, living a highly different life from the social norms, but I don't demand any special treatment for it. I work, I pay taxes and have never been in trouble with the law. I don't expect handouts. Travellers however do. And maybe I'm being generalistic, but my experience, both personal and professional, has left me with the opinion that while most generalisations are the reflections of a few of the many, with Travellers it's usually the reflection of the many, not the few.

    Again, let them lives their lives the way they want, but I'm sick of my tax money, your tax money, being used to pander to their wants, not their needs. We as a nation need to crack down on the illegal activities partaken by members of the Travelling community. Our society want them to change, we want them to integrate and no longer be a focal point of crime. But change has to be wanted from both sides, and it's certainly not wanted by the majority of travellers. And I can see why. Working a genuine job, paying taxes and contributing to society like the vast majority of working people does not pay as well as crime.

    I've had travellers laugh in my face while we were conducting searches. They've gotten smarter and are able to hide their crimes, but have no problem letting you know in a round about way that they flaunt the law. For a group of people who don't work, they* always have the finest clothes, fancy cars, massive budget weddings and communions, and no apparent lack of income. It baffles the mind and leaves a lot of working people annoyed that they're breaking their balls to make ends meat.

    Again, my view and opinions are just that, and are based from personal and professional experience. I've no doubt in my mind that there are 'good' travellers out there, but I've never once met 1 in my 9 professional years. In fact, every member in every traveller family that I have dealt with has had many run ins with AGS. SJW's won't be happy to read this, but it is 100% a fact of my own experience, believe it if you want or not.

    A lot of people are simply fed up with the carry on of the most public travellers. Their crimes cannot be denied, their 'traditions' are at ends with the laws of this country, but we're letting it happen. It's time for Travellers to move with the times, but they refuse to and hide behind the ethnicity card. I'm sick of it, and it will take a lot of effort by travellers to make me change my mind. I wouldn't want to live near them, let alone next to them. Every halting site I've been to has been ruined, covered in rubbish, and usually having melted rubber smoke coming from them while they burn the rubber off the copper cabling they 'legitimately' purchased. They have no respect for animals, and their 'traditions' when it comes to marriage, fighting and children does not have a place in a modern society. We need to stop pandering to them and force them to adapt to a modern society, or just leave. That's how I feel. That's my opinion, and I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but I imagine i'm not the only one feeling like this.

    Call me racist, I don't care. I don't deliberately go out of my way to let this be known, but if someone asks, this is what i say. Having an opinion is not racist. Trying to force that opinion on others or get them to change their ways is racist, and I don't do that. You cannot police my mind, only my actions, and my actions are not racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It will only be a matter of time before other chancers get in on the game.

    The people with planters surnames will start calling themselves an ethnic minority.

    The families with Viking heritage the same.

    Eventually followed by the ancient true gael familes of the island.

    Everybody divided.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,869 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    It will only be a matter of time before other chancers get in on the game.

    The people with planters surnames will start calling themselves an ethnic minority.

    The families with Viking heritage the same.

    Eventually followed by the ancient true gael familes of the island.

    Everybody divided.

    Good old divide and rule, the oldest trick in the book to keep people down.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Hes been all over the media being criticized by the media! All the usual suspects Kitty Holland, Fintan O Toole etc etc all lining up to say how shocked they were to find out nearly 25% of the population were racists.


    Interesting slot on Ivan Yates radio show from Rathkeale where Peter Casey had one of his biggest votes, a town where 80% of the houses are apparently owned by travellers. Lots of big houses, new cars and vans, no shortage of money obviously. Gets "lively" in December when around 2000 relations arrive back for a month.
    The source of the money?, maybe google Rathkeale rovers for that.

    From my memory and this is going back 20 odd years ago, there was a road in rathkeale full of very nice houses, but some of them were boarded up and had caravans parked out front.

    The owners used them for storage and were not living there most of the year.

    BTW weren't some Rathkeale travellers involved in Oriental antiquities in the UK ?
    Heres the guys story. To be fair the clubs officers are backing him, so it seems very unlikely he is making it up.
    http://clarechampion.ie/travellers-racism/

    I would definitely say that he was getting abused as I have seen and heard some awful stuff at underage levels when you play certain teams.
    Do you think he is not receiving racial abuse?

    No I don't call it racial abuse simply because he is not of a different race unless he is of course a black or lets say Asian traveller.

    And yes I would say it was abuse, just like players have received abuse for being gay, being a different religon, having relatives in the news, etc.
    There's one on Virgin Media One now talking about introducing teaching traveller culture in schools. It's on the Elaine show so I won't br watching.

    Ehh what is traveller culture ??

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    We're having a cross burning in Murphy's field tomorrow at 6pm.

    You'd be more than welcome to attend Mr Von Peppercorn.

    Ah feck it I thought it was going to be in Brady's field this week. ;)

    Or is that the Loyalists on Guy Fawkes night.

    Just remember Brady's field is surrounded by halting sites in every direction.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    It will only be a matter of time before other chancers get in on the game.

    The people with planters surnames will start calling themselves an ethnic minority.

    The families with Viking heritage the same.

    Eventually followed by the ancient true gael familes of the island.

    Everybody divided.

    Oh you racist. What about us of a Norman heritage?

    Wheres my state provided keep and moat? My stables for my destrier and palfrey? Wheres my enceinte where i could safely organise culturally appropriate hastiludes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    And the funny thing is, even at his most unpopular he was on 2%!!!

    You f###king idiot Barrett!!!

    Good ole Rich Boy Barrett, yet another toff who's decided that he's going to save us proles. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Rich boy Barrett on ivan yates at the moment saying that Peter Casey shouldn't be given airtime on the late late tonight. The irony of the leader of a 1% party saying a 23% guy shouldn't get airtime
    Mein fuhrer is on the late late tonight?? Excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    We can waffle here all we want and listen to the morons in the media. The only thing that all change anything is voting for new solutions ...

    I voted Casey , but he shouldn’t be just answering these idiotic traveller comments put to him , he should be destroying them. Trump goes out to attack his opponents, here, someone tells the truth and is nearly group shamed into questioning their own logic , such is the overwhelming leftie cesspit here! We need a serious , informed and articulate Rottweiler. Casey is a poodle ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,243 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    We can waffle here all we want and listen to the morons in the media. The only thing that all change anything is voting for new solutions ...

    I voted Casey , but he shouldn’t be just answering these idiotic traveller comments put to him , he should be destroying them. Trump goes out to attack his opponents, here, someone tells the truth and is nearly group shamed into questioning their own logic , such is the overwhelming leftie cesspit here! We need a serious , informed and articulate Rottweiler. Casey is a poodle ...

    We as a state decided to confer SEMS on travellers. Casey is seeking to undermine that. Only 23% of the country agree with him that it is wrong. He is going to be questioned on it and challenged regardless of the victimhood moan from his supporters.

    I expect we will hear some of his 'ach I didn't really mean it'.. whimpering that we heard on Aine Lawlor but like a sulky child he will insist on sticking to his belief (even though he can not point to anything in SEMS that gives extra rights) and the mob will cheer some more. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Mein fuhrer is on the late late tonight?? Excellent.

    So is Peter Casey.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,810 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    We can waffle here all we want and listen to the morons in the media. The only thing that all change anything is voting for new solutions ...

    I voted Casey , but he shouldn’t be just answering these idiotic traveller comments put to him , he should be destroying them. Trump goes out to attack his opponents, here, someone tells the truth and is nearly group shamed into questioning their own logic , such is the overwhelming leftie cesspit here! We need a serious , informed and articulate Rottweiler. Casey is a poodle ...

    Are you saying we need Nigel Firage?


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