Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

ceadaoin. · 27-10-2018 4:33pm #1

At least 8 people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. Seems that the shooter is now in custody and came out saying that "all these Jews need to die". Why are Jewish people always the first target from many sides? You'd think we'd have moved on after a few thousand years of it.

Racists and anti semites seem to feel emboldened in Trump's America. Doesn't feel good to live here tbh, you never know when the next psycho is going to do something.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-46002549

BabyCheeses · 27-10-2018 4:44pm

He has a gab account so I'm going to go for angry Buddhist for this one.

Raging_Ninja · 27-10-2018 4:47pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

At least 8 people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. Seems that the shooter is now in custody and came out saying that "all these Jews need to die". Why are Jewish people always the first target from many sides? You'd think we'd have moved on after a few thousand years of it.

Racists and anti semites seem to feel emboldened in Trump's America. Doesn't feel good to live here tbh, you never know when the next psycho is going to do something.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-46002549

Jews are the targets in every society. If you think they have it bad in the US, take a look at anti-Semitism in France where the Jewish population has dropped by something like 20% due to anti-Semitic attacks on their community.

jam_mac_jam · 27-10-2018 4:48pm

BabyCheeses wrote: »

He has a gab account so I'm going to go for angry Buddhist for this one.

Well not a christian anyway because they never hurt Jewish people...

suicide_circus · 27-10-2018 4:51pm

you'd swear none of this stuff ever happened until Trump took office

Vincent Vega · 27-10-2018 4:51pm

BabyCheeses wrote: »

He has a gab account so I'm going to go for angry Buddhist for this one.

http://archive.is/k63LEo

Robert Bowers @onedingo
2 hours ago
HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people.
I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered.
Screw your optics, I'm going in.

His gab was working about half an hour ago. Seems to have been taken offline since then.

DColeman · 27-10-2018 5:05pm

He wasn't fan of "globalist" Trump either.

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RobertKK · 27-10-2018 5:05pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

At least 8 people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. Seems that the shooter is now in custody and came out saying that "all these Jews need to die". Why are Jewish people always the first target from many sides? You'd think we'd have moved on after a few thousand years of it.

Racists and anti semites seem to feel emboldened in Trump's America. Doesn't feel good to live here tbh, you never know when the next psycho is going to do something.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-46002549

They have been around since year dot, nothing to do with Trump whose daughter is Jewish.

lertsnim · 27-10-2018 5:13pm

Thoughts and prayers

Harry Palmr · 27-10-2018 5:16pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

At least 8 people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. Seems that the shooter is now in custody and came out saying that "all these Jews need to die". Why are Jewish people always the first target from many sides? You'd think we'd have moved on after a few thousand years of it.

Racists and anti semites seem to feel emboldened in Trump's America. Doesn't feel good to live here tbh, you never know when the next psycho is going to do something.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-46002549

This really ought to be Godwin'd

B0jangles · 27-10-2018 5:17pm

Weird how Neo-nazis and White Nationalists love Trump even though he apparently hasn't either done or said anything to support them?

Maybe the Neo-Nazis misunderstood him when he said there were "very fine people on both sides" after their march in Charlottesville, and though that that was the President tacitly endorsing their views?

He has and continues to use hateful and divisive rhetoric to stoke the fear and anger of a subset of the population and then pleads ignorance when they go off and murder ordinary people who are just trying to live their lives.

mrmorgan · 27-10-2018 5:20pm

any idea yet how many are dead?

Donald Trump · 27-10-2018 5:24pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Weird how Neo-nazis and White Nationalists love Trump even though he apparently hasn't either done or said anything to support them?

Maybe the Neo-Nazis misunderstood him when he said there were "very fine people on both sides" after their march in Charlottesville, and though that that was the President tacitly endorsing their views?

He has and continues to use hateful and divisive rhetoric to stoke the fear and anger of a subset of the population and then pleads ignorance when they go off and murder ordinary people who are just trying to live their lives.

Expressed support and accepted endorsements from far right figures

mcmoustache · 27-10-2018 5:25pm

mrmorgan wrote: »

any idea yet how many are dead?

8 I think.

RobertKK · 27-10-2018 5:41pm

Trump talking rubbish about synagogues and churches needing armed guards to protect them.

JupiterKid · 27-10-2018 5:47pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

you'd swear none of this stuff ever happened until Trump took office

There were racist/anti semitic attacks in the States before Trump took office but since he took power white supremacicts and racists have been more emboldened to carry out more attacks. And Trump has again and again refused to denounce these racists.

RIP to those who were murdered.

SilverPenney · 27-10-2018 5:54pm

Terrible attack, and all too common. I am sure that Donald Trump will have a personal grievance with this shooting, considering his daughter Ivanka is a Jewish convert and his son-in-law Jared Kushner and their kids are practicing Jews. RIP.

wexie · 27-10-2018 6:05pm

B0jangles wrote: »

He has and continues to use hateful and divisive rhetoric to stoke the fear and anger of a subset of the population and then pleads ignorance when they go off and murder ordinary people who are just trying to live their lives.

And then turns around to blame it all on the media

laugh · 27-10-2018 6:07pm

Wow, the President of the USA being interviewed about this and barely able to string a few words together. How can anyone support this clown.

laugh · 27-10-2018 6:08pm

Death penalty should be applied quickly he says.

Raging_Ninja · 27-10-2018 6:12pm

RobertKK wrote: »

Trump talking rubbish about synagogues and churches needing armed guards to protect them.

He's not wrong. The victims of these attacks are usually so-called "gun-free zones", which are really just soft targets. Contrast this with an attempted Isis attack in Texas where the attackers were gunned down almost immediately by armed security and police.

Its not unique to the US - after the Isis attacks in France there were soldiers patrolling the streets outside potential targets.

steddyeddy · 27-10-2018 6:17pm

It's America it was always going to happen. The gun culture facilitates such attacks.

Dalomanakora · 27-10-2018 6:19pm

RIP to the victims. I hope the witnesses recover mentally from such a horrific event too.

ceadaoin. · 27-10-2018 6:24pm

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

He's not wrong. The victims of these attacks are usually so-called "gun-free zones", which are really just soft targets. Contrast this with an attempted Isis attack in Texas where the attackers were gunned down almost immediately by armed security and police.

Its not unique to the US - after the Isis attacks in France there were soldiers patrolling the streets outside potential targets.

My daughter's old school was attached to a temple and predominantly Jewish even though it was a secular school. They had armed guards and sniffer dogs outside on major Jewish holidays. Freaked me out the first time I saw it and I felt very uncomfortable walking her into school past them but clearly they felt it was needed and maybe they were right

Berserker · 27-10-2018 6:25pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Racists and anti semites seem to feel emboldened in Trump's America.

Try again. The USA is a country where Jewish people thrive. Devout Christians throughout the USA, who support Trump in general, adore Israel and have strong religious connections to Judaism.

suicide_circus wrote: »

you'd swear none of this stuff ever happened until Trump took office

Anything remotely bad that happens now is his fault. Did you not get the memo?

RobertKK wrote: »

Trump talking rubbish about synagogues and churches needing armed guards to protect them.

Calling for the death penalty now. Agree with him 100%. Anyone who goes into a building and shoots people in this manner deserves that fate.

topmanamillion · 27-10-2018 6:41pm

Before Trump became president:
Between 2014 and 2017, 56,755 Americans were killed by guns, including 2,710 children under the age of 12.

In that time, there were 1,333 mass shootings - defined as incidents in which at least four people are injured or killed - eight of them at elementary or high schools.

Americas gun culture is the problem. Trump is a minor character in what is an all powerful lobby group - the NRA.

Berserker · 27-10-2018 6:45pm

topmanamillion wrote: »

Americas gun culture is the problem. Trump is a minor character in what is an all powerful lobby group - the NRA.

So, if we get rid of guns, will this problem go away? I think better gun controls are needed but these killings will still continue.

batgoat · 27-10-2018 6:48pm

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

Jews are the targets in every society. If you think they have it bad in the US, take a look at anti-Semitism in France where the Jewish population has dropped by something like 20% due to anti-Semitic attacks on their community.

Trump has been doing anti semetic dogwhistles at George Soros for a few months. This resulted in him being one of the targets of the Maga Bomber... So Trump very much so is further enabling this stuff.

Manic Moran · 27-10-2018 6:48pm

RobertKK wrote: »

Trump talking rubbish about synagogues and churches needing armed guards to protect them.

Not unheard of.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/6-shot-at-new-life-church-gunman-2-churchgoers-dead

Two church members were shot to death and three others were injured after a gunman opened fire outside the New Life Church in Colorado Springs as Sunday services were wrapping up.
The gunman was shot by a church female security officer and was found dead when police arrived at the scene, said Colorado Springs Police Chief Richard Myers.

Police did not release the name of the security guard but said she "probably saved many lives today."

She was actually a member of the parish, not hired security.

Odhinn · 27-10-2018 6:51pm

Yep, he's a jew hater allright.

https://archive.fo/1gI5n

One eyed Jack · 27-10-2018 6:53pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

At least 8 people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. Seems that the shooter is now in custody and came out saying that "all these Jews need to die". Why are Jewish people always the first target from many sides? You'd think we'd have moved on after a few thousand years of it.

Racists and anti semites seem to feel emboldened in Trump's America. Doesn't feel good to live here tbh, you never know when the next psycho is going to do something.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-46002549

They’re not? Not by a long shot.

And racism and bigotry existed en masse in the US before Trump was ever even heard of. It’s just that it could be largely ignored by people who weren’t affected by it. Undoubtedly of course this case will be used by people of all political and social persuasions to attempt to gain power over other groups, by instilling fear in people and inciting moral panic and suspicion of their neighbours, as it is now and has been this way since human civilisation existed.

Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

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