Leinster Vs Munster buildup

thomond2006 · 01-10-2018 10:37am #1

Munster haven't a chance.

davo2001 · 01-10-2018 10:46am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Munster haven't a chance.

As a Munster fan, I have to agree.

Leinster are just too good at the moment, the most I'm hoping for is that we give it a good go but I'd say Leinster will win by 14 points +.

Munsters away form has been shocking so far this season.

troyzer · 01-10-2018 10:49am

Leinster Vs Leinster B*

01-10-2018 10:51am

Rassie will be effectively picking the Munster team this week with a view to testing out a few things against much of the Ireland squad in advance of next years RWC quarter final.

Clegg · 01-10-2018 10:56am

Both sides were almost full strength for last weekends interpros. So I guess we'll see weaker starting XV's for this one.

Might actually be better for Munster seeing as their full strength side usually uses to Leinster. Give a shot to the lads that aren't proven chokers.

iminterestd0 · 01-10-2018 10:56am

Leinster to put out mixed team, no Sexton?

Buer · 01-10-2018 10:57am

What sort of teams are we expecting from Munster?

I'd imagine something along the lines of a pretty typical selection for them...Loughman, Marshall, Parker, Kleyn, Beirne, Botha, Cloete, Stander, Matthewson, Keatley, Haley Taute, Arnold, Conway, Carbery.

Mookie Blaylock · 01-10-2018 11:00am

Buer wrote: »

What sort of teams are we expecting from Munster?

I'd imagine something along the lines of a pretty typical selection for them...Loughman, Marshall, Parker, Kleyn, Beirne, Botha, Cloete, Stander, Matthewson, Keatley, Haley Taute, Arnold, Conway, Carbery.

Can't see Carbery playing... Conway at FB and Sweets perhaps on the wing

davo2001 · 01-10-2018 11:01am

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

Can't see Carbery playing...

Why not? If anything you would think he has something to prove.

Mookie Blaylock · 01-10-2018 11:02am

davo2001 wrote: »

Why not?

Nothing to do with it being Leinster, but think he'll be rested and Keats get the start...

arsebiscuits1 · 01-10-2018 11:10am

iminterestd0 wrote: »

Leinster to put out mixed team, no Sexton?

Can't see Sexton playing at all. 6 day turnaround to Wasps so will be tricky selection.

McGrath Tracy Porter
Molony Ryan
SOB Deegan Leavy
JGP Byrne
Henshaw ROL
Byrne D Kearney McFadden
Byrne Byrne Bent Kearney Doris McCarthy Frawley Tomane

sydthebeat · 01-10-2018 11:16am

think this will be the leinster line up:

C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien

C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien

maybe seanie will be on the bench.....

Peregrine · 01-10-2018 11:38am

sydthebeat wrote: »

think this will be the leinster line up:

C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien

C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien, C O Brien
C O Brien

Ah, so he is a winger.

Cookiemunster · 01-10-2018 11:40am

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

Can't see Carbery playing... Conway at FB and Sweets perhaps on the wing

This is what JVG said last week before the Ulster game.

http://www.the42.ie/munster-johann-van-graan-ulster-team-selection-4258347-Sep2018/
“One or two guys will still be 50/50 for the side this weekend but once we get to next week, we’re going to stick to our best team. It’s a massive block of games for us, it’s no different to any other year, every year the start of Europe is huge, the inter-pros are huge"

Unless he's telling porkies, then Munster will be full strength.

Bridge93 · 01-10-2018 11:41am

Buer wrote: »

What sort of teams are we expecting from Munster?

I'd imagine something along the lines of a pretty typical selection for them...Loughman, Marshall, Parker, Kleyn, Beirne, Botha, Cloete, Stander, Matthewson, Keatley, Haley Taute, Arnold, Conway, Carbery.

Subs bench rumored to include Hart, a fit again TB and Wooton

Buer · 01-10-2018 11:41am

I think we'll actually see a relatively strong Munster side coming to town. POM won't start, I imagine. But outside of that I wouldn't rule anyone out. Stander and Earls haven't had a tonne of game time thus far. Then guys like Carbery and Beirne aren't really critical players for Ireland. The Irish set up might want Carbery playing this game as a real test.

I can see 10-12 of Munster's first choice side starting this.

As for Leinster, I can see a pretty strong side taking the field. McGrath would be a huge boost at loosehead but I don't see it happening. Aside from that, I think we'll see a lot of regulars starting:

Dooley, Tracy, Porter, Fardy, Ryan, SOB, Leavy, Deegan, JGP, Byrne, McFadden, Henshaw, ROL, Tomane, DK.

troyzer · 01-10-2018 11:43am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

This is what JVG said last week before the Ulster game.

http://www.the42.ie/munster-johann-van-graan-ulster-team-selection-4258347-Sep2018/
“One or two guys will still be 50/50 for the side this weekend but once we get to next week, we’re going to stick to our best team. It’s a massive block of games for us, it’s no different to any other year, every year the start of Europe is huge, the inter-pros are huge"

Unless he's telling porkies, then Munster will be full strength.

That would make it even more embarassing when they get trashed by the Leinster academy.

thomond2006 · 01-10-2018 11:46am

Pending today's squad update, I expect something like this:

Cronin, Scannell, Archer, Kleyn, Beirne, Botha, Cloete, Stander;
Mathewson, Keatley, Earls, Scannell, Arnold, Conway, Haley

KOB, Kilcoyne, Scott, Holland, POM, Williams, Carbery, Sweetnam

As Buer says, maybe they can stretch Carbery's pitchtime to include another start as he might get two weeks off after Chicago?

Clegg · 01-10-2018 11:48am

Full strength Munster?

Surefire Leinster win.

stephen_n · 01-10-2018 1:30pm

It’s always nice to get a run out against the development province, see how the ex academy guys are getting on.

troyzer · 01-10-2018 1:40pm

stephen_n wrote: »

It’s always nice to get a run out against the development province, see how the ex academy guys are getting on.

Was just thinking that.

Burkie1203 · 01-10-2018 1:41pm

stephen_n wrote: »

It’s always nice to get a run out against the development province, see how the ex academy guys are getting on.

https://twitter.com/NiallXOBrien/status/1046638627965620224?s=19

Clegg · 01-10-2018 3:11pm

Leinster's most recent injury update says Jack McGrath and Dan Leavy are back in full training. I guess both will start on Saturday as neither have played this season bar Leavy's 20 minutes against the Dragons. James Ryan has completed the return to play protocols so he might start as well.

AdamD · 01-10-2018 3:31pm

Suspect we'll see a Leavy, O'Brien & Deegan back row for Leinster.

iminterestd0 · 01-10-2018 3:34pm

AdamD wrote: »

Suspect we'll see a Leavy, O'Brien & Deegan back row for Leinster.

1. McGrath
2. Tracy
3. Porter
4. Molony
5. Ryan
6. SOB
7. Leavy
8. Deegan

Maybe?

Henry Ford III · 01-10-2018 4:01pm

I'm looking forward to some comedy moustaches and double barrelled names ideally.

Buer · 01-10-2018 4:14pm

iminterestd0 wrote: »

1. McGrath
2. Tracy
3. Porter
4. Molony
5. Ryan
6. SOB
7. Leavy
8. Deegan

Maybe?

Fardy has been rested for a couple of games already. If he doesn't play on Saturday, he'll be doing into the HEC with one appearance in almost a month. He's also likely to only bench in one of the European games.

I'd expect him to start with Ryan.

troyzer · 01-10-2018 4:54pm

Buer wrote: »

iminterestd0 wrote: »

1. McGrath
2. Tracy
3. Porter
4. Molony
5. Ryan
6. SOB
7. Leavy
8. Deegan

Maybe?

Fardy has been rested for a couple of games already. If he doesn't play on Saturday, he'll be doing into the HEC with one appearance in almost a month. He's also likely to only bench in one of the European games.

I'd expect him to start with Ryan.

Can see that as well. Take him off at half-time when we're fifty points clear.

iminterestd0 · 01-10-2018 4:59pm

which former Leinster outhalf will start at 10 for Munster?

baaba maal · 01-10-2018 5:21pm

Buer wrote: »

What sort of teams are we expecting from Munster?

I'd imagine something along the lines of a pretty typical selection for them...Loughman, Marshall, Parker, Kleyn, Beirne, Botha, Cloete, Stander, Matthewson, Keatley, Haley Taute, Arnold, Conway, Carbery.

I see what you did there!

Buer · 01-10-2018 5:30pm

baaba maal wrote: »

I see what you did there!

GO SOUTH DUBFRICA!

turnikett1 · 01-10-2018 5:53pm

Buer wrote: »

baaba maal wrote: »

I see what you did there!

GO SOUTH DUBFRICA!

I'm not even unironically saying I'm looking forward to (potentially) finally seeing Munster's dream of fielding an all South African backrow. I like our connection to South African rugby. Am I wrong in saying that certain provinces seem to gravitate towards certain foreign players? Munster-South Africa, Leinster-New Zealand, Connacht-Australia, Ulster-Leinster...

awec · 01-10-2018 7:35pm

turnikett1 wrote: »

I'm not even unironically saying I'm looking forward to (potentially) finally seeing Munster's dream of fielding an all South African backrow. I like our connection to South African rugby. Am I wrong in saying that certain provinces seem to gravitate towards certain foreign players? Munster-South Africa, Leinster-New Zealand, Connacht-Australia, Ulster-Leinster...

We love our boks up in Ulster too. Might even have more of them than Munster.

baaba maal · 01-10-2018 7:46pm

awec wrote: »

We love our boks up in Ulster too. Might even have more of them than Munster.

I'm going to say that the last Saffer to play for Leinster who really impacted the club was Heinke (and all respects to Kirchner, a solid and honest player). I loved the way Heinke and Cian were operating at the same high level- one that Jack and Cian get to when they are both fully fit.

realhorrorshow · 01-10-2018 8:36pm

turnikett1 wrote: »

I'm not even unironically saying I'm looking forward to (potentially) finally seeing Munster's dream of fielding an all South African backrow. I like our connection to South African rugby. Am I wrong in saying that certain provinces seem to gravitate towards certain foreign players? Munster-South Africa, Leinster-New Zealand, Connacht-Australia, Ulster-Leinster...

They actually went into that on the most recent Demented Mole podcast.

molloyjh · 01-10-2018 9:57pm

Looking like:

McGrath Tracy Porter
Fardy Ryan
Leavy Deegan SOB

JGP Byrne
Henshaw ROL
Dave Rob McFadden

Byrne, Dooley, Bent, Molony, Doris, McCarthy, Reid, Tomane

Zzippy · 02-10-2018 12:14am

baaba maal wrote: »

I'm going to say that the last Saffer to play for Leinster who really impacted the club was Heinke (and all respects to Kirchner, a solid and honest player). I loved the way Heinke and Cian were operating at the same high level- one that Jack and Cian get to when they are both fully fit.

Strauss?

stephen_n · 02-10-2018 8:10am

molloyjh wrote: »

Looking like:

McGrath Tracy Porter
Fardy Ryan
Leavy Deegan SOB

JGP Byrne
Henshaw ROL
Dave Rob McFadden

Byrne, Dooley, Bent, Molony, Doris, McCarthy, Reid, Tomane

Might see Frawley in there ahead of Reid

troyzer · 02-10-2018 8:16am

stephen_n wrote: »

Might see Frawley in there ahead of Reid

That would be a brave pick.

sydthebeat · 02-10-2018 8:35am

stephen_n wrote: »

Might see Frawley in there ahead of Reid

Id like to see that

baaba maal · 02-10-2018 8:48am

Zz1ippy wrote: »

Strauss?

And Strauss!:eek:
I suppose his reduced appearances and form in the latter seasons led to my brainfart. I think we can all agree that Sykes was certainly the worst.

thegreycity · 02-10-2018 9:37am

Sure Straussy's Irish, didn't he get his citizenship same time as Joe?

Mc Love · 02-10-2018 10:54am

Munster have had our share of Kiwi backs too

iminterestd0 · 02-10-2018 11:21am

Mc Love wrote: »

Munster have had our share of Kiwi backs too

and no you basically have a saffer pack

aloooof · 02-10-2018 11:30am

iminterestd0 wrote: »

and no you basically have a saffer pack

What's that got to do with Munsters Kiwi backs?

Peregrine · 02-10-2018 11:42am

Zzippy wrote: »

Strauss?

Spideog Rua · 02-10-2018 11:47am

Any word in Murray and his return from "injury "?

davo2001 · 02-10-2018 11:49am

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Any word in Murray and his return from "injury "?

You heard the rumours about his "injury" also?

Clegg · 02-10-2018 12:07pm

This the same as the rumours regarding Heaslip actually failing a drugs test? The same one that proved to be rubbish?

arsebiscuits1 · 02-10-2018 12:12pm

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Any word in Murray and his return from "injury "?

"No"

Seeing as we're using "redundant" "quotation" "marks"

sydthebeat · 02-10-2018 12:15pm

davo2001 wrote: »

You heard the rumours about his "injury" also?

"rumours" flourish in a communication vacuum..... that doesnt make them valid though.

Leinster Vs Munster buildup

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