Leinster Vs Munster buildup

turnikett1

Buer wrote: »

baaba maal wrote: »

I see what you did there!

GO SOUTH DUBFRICA!

I'm not even unironically saying I'm looking forward to (potentially) finally seeing Munster's dream of fielding an all South African backrow. I like our connection to South African rugby. Am I wrong in saying that certain provinces seem to gravitate towards certain foreign players? Munster-South Africa, Leinster-New Zealand, Connacht-Australia, Ulster-Leinster...

awec

turnikett1 wrote: »

I'm not even unironically saying I'm looking forward to (potentially) finally seeing Munster's dream of fielding an all South African backrow. I like our connection to South African rugby. Am I wrong in saying that certain provinces seem to gravitate towards certain foreign players? Munster-South Africa, Leinster-New Zealand, Connacht-Australia, Ulster-Leinster...

We love our boks up in Ulster too. Might even have more of them than Munster.

baaba maal

awec wrote: »

We love our boks up in Ulster too. Might even have more of them than Munster.

I'm going to say that the last Saffer to play for Leinster who really impacted the club was Heinke (and all respects to Kirchner, a solid and honest player). I loved the way Heinke and Cian were operating at the same high level- one that Jack and Cian get to when they are both fully fit.

realhorrorshow

turnikett1 wrote: »

I'm not even unironically saying I'm looking forward to (potentially) finally seeing Munster's dream of fielding an all South African backrow. I like our connection to South African rugby. Am I wrong in saying that certain provinces seem to gravitate towards certain foreign players? Munster-South Africa, Leinster-New Zealand, Connacht-Australia, Ulster-Leinster...

They actually went into that on the most recent Demented Mole podcast.

molloyjh

Looking like:

McGrath Tracy Porter
Fardy Ryan
Leavy Deegan SOB

JGP Byrne
Henshaw ROL
Dave Rob McFadden

Byrne, Dooley, Bent, Molony, Doris, McCarthy, Reid, Tomane

Zzippy

baaba maal wrote: »

I'm going to say that the last Saffer to play for Leinster who really impacted the club was Heinke (and all respects to Kirchner, a solid and honest player). I loved the way Heinke and Cian were operating at the same high level- one that Jack and Cian get to when they are both fully fit.

Strauss?

stephen_n

molloyjh wrote: »

Looking like:

McGrath Tracy Porter
Fardy Ryan
Leavy Deegan SOB

JGP Byrne
Henshaw ROL
Dave Rob McFadden

Byrne, Dooley, Bent, Molony, Doris, McCarthy, Reid, Tomane

Might see Frawley in there ahead of Reid

troyzer

stephen_n wrote: »

Might see Frawley in there ahead of Reid

That would be a brave pick.

sydthebeat

stephen_n wrote: »

Might see Frawley in there ahead of Reid

Id like to see that

baaba maal

Zz1ippy wrote: »

Strauss?

And Strauss!:eek:
I suppose his reduced appearances and form in the latter seasons led to my brainfart. I think we can all agree that Sykes was certainly the worst.

thegreycity

Sure Straussy's Irish, didn't he get his citizenship same time as Joe?

Mc Love

Munster have had our share of Kiwi backs too

iminterestd0

Mc Love wrote: »

Munster have had our share of Kiwi backs too

and no you basically have a saffer pack

aloooof

iminterestd0 wrote: »

and no you basically have a saffer pack

What's that got to do with Munsters Kiwi backs?

Peregrine

Zzippy wrote: »

Strauss?

Spideog Rua

Any word in Murray and his return from "injury "?

davo2001

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Any word in Murray and his return from "injury "?

You heard the rumours about his "injury" also?

Clegg

This the same as the rumours regarding Heaslip actually failing a drugs test? The same one that proved to be rubbish?

arsebiscuits1

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Any word in Murray and his return from "injury "?

"No"

Seeing as we're using "redundant" "quotation" "marks"

sydthebeat

davo2001 wrote: »

You heard the rumours about his "injury" also?

"rumours" flourish in a communication vacuum..... that doesnt make them valid though.

Former Former

sydthebeat wrote: »

"rumours" flourish in a communication vacuum..... that doesnt make them valid though.

No, but it's something the players and provinces/IRFU will have to get used to.

And logically, would players be that fussed about releasing details of a minor tweak? If we see situations where nothing is being said, of course people are going to assume the worst. I don't think Leinster have said anything about Barry Daly's knee, but he's been left out of the European squad...

Still, Murray is back in some sort of training now.

sydthebeat

Former Former wrote: »

No, but it's something the players and provinces/IRFU will have to get used to.

or....

as it becomes more common, there wont be as much mystery about it, so the rumour mill will slow down

AdamD

Dunno, I'm struggling to see the positive arguments for keeping this information confidential. Future clubs are hardly going to not want medical information. And all its doing at the moment is fueling rumours.

sydthebeat

AdamD wrote: »

Dunno, I'm struggling to see the positive arguments for keeping this information confidential. Future clubs are hardly going to not want medical information. And all its doing at the moment is fueling rumours.

you are confusing "confidential" with "not in the public domain"

of course future clubs would have access to medical records should they be interested in signing a player... they dont go to the newspapers to assess a players medical history.

AdamD

sydthebeat wrote: »

you are confusing "confidential" with "not in the public domain"

of course future clubs would have access to medical records should they be interested in signing a player... they dont go to the newspapers to assess a players medical history.

So exactly what benefits are we looking at for Murray here?

The Lost Sheep

AdamD wrote: »

Dunno, I'm struggling to see the positive arguments for keeping this information confidential. Future clubs are hardly going to not want medical information. And all its doing at the moment is fueling rumours.

Players have to disclose the information to future clubs and have medicals etc
There isnt necessarily any reason the information has to be in the newspapers. Future clubs/provinces etc will still have access to information

sydthebeat

AdamD wrote: »

So exactly what benefits are we looking at for Murray here?

well, privacy is the obvious one.

another is not broadcasting to the opposition where youve been recently injured.

Mookie Blaylock

AdamD wrote: »

So exactly what benefits are we looking at for Murray here?

He doesn't have to have his medical condition in the open.
He doesn't have to give opposition players something to aim at in regards timeframe and what area to hit

joseywhales

I'm perfectly fine not knowing players injuries, why should I care about the details? It makes no difference, estimates are useful of course but even still with the nature of serious injuries, estimates are usually not very accurate. Nonetheless, the player should be obliged to forward any recovery estimates so that the club can sign backups etc and any details required to the coaches about their recovery.

AdamD

joseywhales wrote: »

I'm perfectly fine not knowing players injuries, why should I care about the details? It makes no difference, estimates are useful of course but even still with the nature of serious injuries, estimates are usually not very accurate. Nonetheless, the player should be obliged to forward any recovery estimates so that the club can sign backups etc and any details required to the coaches about their recovery.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine not knowing. I'm just questioning whether the privacy is worth the rumours.