Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

tretorn · 17-09-2018 11:37am

There was another young family brutalised at the weekend The dog parked and the young father went to investigate. A pick axe was flung through the glass door at him. He foolishly went out and two thugs beat him up.
He is lucky they didnt kill him.

17-09-2018 7:13pm

Just got chatting to a homeless guy whom I came across in Dublin 8.

Asked him whether he knew how to get shelter for the night, and he told me he has to present/ register at a Garda Station with identification before Dublin city council will accept his request for a bed.

Can anyone here confirm this? Does this guy really have to register with the police before he can be counted as homeless?

Because that seems to me as an blatant way of excluding a lot of folks with a criminal history from the homelessness stats.

colm_mcm · 17-09-2018 7:21pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Because that seems to me as an blatant way of excluding a lot of folks with a criminal history from the homelessness stats.

Why would that exclude them, unless there was a warrant out for them or something?

Gatling · 17-09-2018 7:28pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Just got chatting to a homeless guy whom I came across in Dublin 8.

Asked him whether he knew how to get shelter for the night, and he told me he has to present/ register at a Garda Station with identification before Dublin city council will accept his request for a bed.

Can anyone here confirm this? Does this guy really have to register with the police before he can be counted as homeless?

Because that seems to me as an blatant way of excluding a lot of folks with a criminal history from the homelessness stats.

Sometimes they are asked to prove identity but the majority of the time you que up or ring to book a bed on a specific number ,
And in a lot of cases people won't allowed in to emergency accomodation due to antisocial behaviour or they don't want to actually engage with supports

17-09-2018 8:05pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Why would that exclude them, unless there was a warrant out for them or something?

why should anyone have to register with the police for being homeless?

Imagine if this applied to other sections of society, such as the unemployed?

Homelessness is not a crime. I sincerely hope this guy is mistaken.

mynamejeff · 17-09-2018 8:10pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Just got chatting to a homeless guy whom I came across in Dublin 8.

Asked him whether he knew how to get shelter for the night, and he told me he has to present/ register at a Garda Station with identification before Dublin city council will accept his request for a bed.

Can anyone here confirm this? Does this guy really have to register with the police before he can be counted as homeless?

Because that seems to me as an blatant way of excluding a lot of folks with a criminal history from the homelessness stats.

this is untrue entirely and completely

its neither practical or possible for this to happen and is another example of the lies and nonsense that these people come out with that isnt challenged

Odelay · 17-09-2018 8:23pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

why should anyone have to register with the police for being homeless?

Imagine if this applied to other sections of society, such as the unemployed?

Homelessness is not a crime. I sincerely hope this guy is mistaken.

I remember having to go to the guards to get passport photos signed. Does mean I'm a criminal?

Ha Long Bay · 18-09-2018 12:11am

I dont think Mags ever heard the phrase don't bite the hand that feeds you.

"We need to stand up to these scum 😠 Stand together fight for wats right. Well done Gerard they've been getting away with it for to long now enough is enough minister time u stood down and let sum1 who can do the job do it !!! Fix our country help our people our children we all just want a home for our kids 😡😠 Who said it was ok for u to leave us live like dis ? Wer taken back our streets and Wer gonna fight use a useless government SHAME on u all 😠😡 Take the boards off the houses that use have boarded up and give them out to people we need homes not b+bs not hotels not hubs HOMES"

This is in relation to the "eviction" of Ms Elliot in D17 who decided to break into a house.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/council-seeks-to-remove-mother-and-children-from-vacant-house-1.3629667?mode=amp

Graces7 · 18-09-2018 4:41am

Odelay wrote: »

I remember having to go to the guards to get passport photos signed. Does mean I'm a criminal?

and for a disabled badge for the car.... and to register with the council for the housing list.

"Asked him whether he knew how to get shelter for the night, and he told me he has to present/ register at a Garda Station with identification before Dublin city council will accept his request for a bed.

Can anyone here confirm this? Does this guy really have to register with the police before he can be counted as homeless?

Because that seems to me as an blatant way of excluding a lot of folks with a criminal history from the homelessness stats."

There are wisely now Garda checks

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/kerryman/news/thirtyfive-people-refused-social-housing-after-vetting-by-garda-27401120.html

To access council services you have to be on the housing list. That includes being registered as homeless.
The forms you fill in are comprehensive. Revenue. Social Welfare, and Garda.

Your friend ; was he actually excluded or just fought shy of getting Garda approval?

He would get help from the housing charities without registering with the council and would thus be on the homeless stats.

Nothing sinister going on; the council is rightly being careful to minimise damage etc

Cookie_Monster · 18-09-2018 4:53am

2011 wrote: »

Source???
Where are you getting this bullish!t from?

Plenty of private sector worker are in unions.

but he's right that plenty won't (not can't) join, I know I wouldn't. Unions are scum these days

Wheety · 18-09-2018 3:13pm

At least she's out and about

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/09/18/our-house/

howamidifferent · 18-09-2018 3:20pm

Wheety wrote: »

At least she's out and about

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/09/18/our-house/

"I’m surprised she got the time off work to attend."

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::

van_beano · 18-09-2018 3:26pm

Wheety wrote: »

At least she's out and about

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/09/18/our-house/

She loves those matching outfits, she had a pink one whilst meeting Miriam a few weeks ago.

Wonder where's the rest of the kids? Would have had a better visual impact if they were all there.

Is Ireland really the most corrupt country in the world?

See Irish Water got a mention aswell.

KrustyUCC · 18-09-2018 3:26pm

Sure I suppose she has to do something to occupy her time in between Luas trips to Tallaght for the kids schools

Margaret Cash says she's dreading Luas trips to Tallaght after moving into new apartment on Parnell Street

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/homeless-dublin-ireland-15045382

Old article but she still needs the trips to Tallaght I presume

punisher5112 · 18-09-2018 3:37pm

van_beano wrote: »

She loves those matching outfits, she had a pink one whilst meeting Miriam a few weeks ago.

Wonder where's the rest of the kids? Would have had a better visual impact if they were all there.

Is Ireland really the most corrupt country in the world?

See Irish Water got a mention aswell.

There all them counterfeit outfits of Nike and so on.

flowers345 · 18-09-2018 3:49pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Just got chatting to a homeless guy whom I came across in Dublin 8.

Asked him whether he knew how to get shelter for the night, and he told me he has to present/ register at a Garda Station with identification before Dublin city council will accept his request for a bed.

Can anyone here confirm this? Does this guy really have to register with the police before he can be counted as homeless?

Because that seems to me as an blatant way of excluding a lot of folks with a criminal history from the homelessness stats.

Yes if he has not been registered yet he has to present. To register he has to present. To get registered he needs to go through hoops. To get a referral letter from Merchants quay to register he has to make an appointment inside Merchants quay. To get into Merchants quay he has to be registered.

To stay registered he needs to have a bed on a regular basis. A dorm-bed in a homeless place costs between 50 and 210 euro per week. When he is not so lucky to get a bed for a while (freephone-lucky draw) then he is DE-registered. If he goes on the list for housing then he is DE-registered. :mad: He can sleep at some Garda stations on the bench in the hall. He can not shower. He can not pass start but can go straight to jail if he steals a toothbrush or 2.

Once he has been registered (and probably given a bed) he can use the shower in Merchants quay. :eek:

http://homelessarticlesireland.blogspot.com/2018/08/homeless-articles-ireland-2018.html
:pac::o

18-09-2018 4:01pm

flowers345 wrote: »

Yes if he has not been registered yet he has to present. To register he has to present. To get registered he needs to go through hoops. To get a referral letter from Merchants quay to register he has to make an appointment inside Merchants quay. To get into Merchants quay he has to be registered. To stay registered he needs to have a bed on a regular basis. A dorm-bed in a homeless place costs between 50 and 210 euro per week. When he is not so lucky to get a bed for a while (freephone-lucky draw) then he is DE-registered. If he goes on the list for housing then he is DE-registered. :mad: He can sleep at some Garda stations on the bench in the hall. He can not shower. He can not pass start but can go straight to jail if he steals a toothbrush or 2.

Once he has been registered (and probably given a bed) he can use the shower in Merchants quay. :eek:

http://homelessarticlesireland.blogspot.com/2018/08/homeless-articles-ireland-2018.html
:pac::o

Thank you for this. The guy seemed totally genuine in telling me that, so I was surprised at all the other "experts" on this thread claiming it was untrue.

It's hardly surprising that they make registration so unnecessarily complex/ undesirable, when the homeless figures keep going up and up.

Edgware · 18-09-2018 4:46pm

Wheety wrote: »

At least she's out and about

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/09/18/our-house/

Would you?

Seth Brundle · 18-09-2018 5:02pm

Wheety wrote: »

At least she's out and about

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/09/18/our-house/

Usual feckin rabble of self entitled layabouts looking for free stuff and criticising the hand that feeds them while the majority are busy working to pay for their dossing. :mad:
Feckin sick of all this now!

eviltwin · 18-09-2018 5:15pm

She's loving the bit of infamy isn't she? Probably thinks she's a celebrity now. Like a Kardashian or something.

Gunmonkey · 18-09-2018 5:30pm

eviltwin wrote: »

She's loving the bit of infamy isn't she? Probably thinks she's a celebrity now. Like a Kardashian or something.

How long until RTE gives her a daytime chat show or radio slot? I know neither of her parents were higher ups in RTE but I'm sure they can make an exception here!

Wheeliebin30 · 18-09-2018 9:04pm

Tell me someone has seen her rant/speech outside the dail today?

She had a microphone and speaker and audience, oh dear.

Actually it’s on her Facebook page please check it out.

I despair I really do.

Ha Long Bay · 18-09-2018 9:11pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Tell me someone has seen her rant/speech outside the dail today?

She had a microphone and speaker and audience, oh dear.

Actually it’s in her Facebook page please check it out.

I despair I really do.

I can see why the husband left!

https://www.facebook.com/100007227857780/videos/2153182491599325/

Jimmy. · 18-09-2018 9:16pm

Gunmonkey wrote: »

How long until RTE gives her a daytime chat show or radio slot? I know neither of her parents were higher ups in RTE but I'm sure they can make an exception here!

She can’t be any worse than that tool of Owen Macdermott or Fergal Darcy.

NasserShammaz · 18-09-2018 9:20pm

Jimmy. wrote: »

She can’t be any worse than that tool of Owen Macdermott or Fergal Darcy.

ohh she can she can

Atlantic Dawn · 18-09-2018 9:21pm

john4321 wrote: »

I can see why the husband left!

https://www.facebook.com/100007227857780/videos/2153182491599325/

She should have shut her legs.

punisher5112 · 18-09-2018 9:21pm

john4321 wrote: »

I can see why the husband left!

https://www.facebook.com/100007227857780/videos/2153182491599325/

She won't shut er mouth..

Pity she didn't shut her legs too.

SEPT 23 1989 · 18-09-2018 9:24pm

Wheety wrote: »

At least she's out and about

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/09/18/our-house/

Sure what else would you be doing on a workday?

NasserShammaz · 18-09-2018 9:27pm

john4321 wrote: »

I can see why the husband left!

https://www.facebook.com/100007227857780/videos/2153182491599325/

this is wrist slittingly depressing really

jay0109 · 18-09-2018 9:28pm

Wow...that was some 'speech'! We live in a great country when people like that can stand on the street and make such demands without ever having worked a day in their life or paid a cent of tax. And to be able to do that without an ounce of shame...phenomenal.

I'm sure Lenny Abrahamson or some other lefty arty farty is writing the screen play as we speak.

Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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