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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #3092
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Anyone use the Dovea bull Mullary Intrepid (LM4093)?
    Serious muscle judging by this lad.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/purebred-limousin-bull/19655784

    https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1037870609
    Thats a savage bull isnt it.
    The father is much the same
    https://d2plt72lktvjje.cloudfront.net/system/images/made/system/images/remote/http_d2s78nzxh2oqox.cloudfront.net/general/Beef/Limousin/e6853bf95cc5108be45a079699585838/Mullary_Intrepid_-_S2265_Cat_Pic_770_502_85_c1.jpg


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    #3093
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Thats a savage bull isnt it.
    The father is much the same.. .....

    That bull on Donedeal was second in his class in Tullamore.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3094
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Anyone use the Dovea bull Mullary Intrepid (LM4093)?
    Serious muscle judging by this lad.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/purebred-limousin-bull/19655784

    https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1037870609

    Fine bull alright but his feet seem a bit iffy to me.


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    #3095
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Fine bull alright but his feet seem a bit iffy to me.

    The result of too much feeding, I'd say.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3096
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Anyone use the Dovea bull Mullary Intrepid (LM4093)?
    Serious muscle judging by this lad.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/purebred-limousin-bull/19655784

    https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1037870609

    Had one last year. Found her very hard to finish.


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    #3097
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    Had one last year. Found her very hard to finish.
    Out of your own cow? Was she muscley?

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3098
    Pidae.m
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Out of your own cow? Was she muscley?

    No bought her. She was a cull from a ped herd. Dinky heifer but she wanted months more to do her right.


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    #3099
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Has anyone ever used Balthayock Hamish?


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    #3100
    Mac Taylor
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    What charlaois bull from Dovea would anyone recommend for a second calver. She is a lmxfr cow


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    #3101
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    What charlaois bull from Dovea would anyone recommend for a second calver. She is a lmxfr cow

    Clenagh jasper /knockmyle loki/ usufruit
    Easiest calving. Better calves but slightly harder


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    #3102
    Hard Knocks
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    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    What charlaois bull from Dovea would anyone recommend for a second calver. She is a lmxfr cow
    Knockmoyle10 Loki or Potterleagh Mark
    Bivouac would be an option especially for Maternal


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    #3103
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Anyone use the Dovea bull Mullary Intrepid (LM4093)?
    Serious muscle judging by this lad.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/purebred-limousin-bull/19655784

    https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1037870609

    He's up on done deal a while. I thought that he would be gone quick. Serious looking animal.


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    #3104
    patsy_mccabe
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    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    He's up on done deal a while. I thought that he would be gone quick. Serious looking animal.

    Probably looking for too much. I saw a guy refuse €3,5k for a yearling limousin heifer earlier this year. Same heifer was at Tullamore, I think. Some lads have high expectations.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3105
    RobinBanks
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    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Knockmoyle10 Loki or Potterleagh Mark
    Bivouac would be an option especially for Maternal

    Does anyone here have any calves by Loki?


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    #3106
    RobinBanks
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    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Clenagh jasper /knockmyle loki/ usufruit
    Easiest calving. Better calves but slightly harder


    What sort of cows suit Loki and Jasper plain or muscly?


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    #3107
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    What sort of cows suit Loki and Jasper plain or muscly?

    Red ones. :D their new bulls so their isnt much known on them.


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    #3108
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Knockmoyle10 Loki or Potterleagh Mark
    Bivouac     would be an option especially for Maternal

    Used those two for the first time this year, should be interesting. Thought Potterleagh Mark would be a nice cross for taller cows, though also liked Milo & Loki.


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    #3109
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    Don't understand how this lad is still allowed to stand in ai. How is he still 5 star. Much better bulls out there with worse stars. With daughter calving difficulty over %12 there must be allot of lads that got caught with no room to calve at all. Very bad traits to allow breed into cows.

    https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/716646098#view-beef-eurostar


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    #3110
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    Don't understand how this lad is still allowed to stand in ai. How is he still 5 star. Much better bulls out there with worse stars. With daughter calving difficulty over %12 there must be allot of lads that got caught with no room to calve at all. Very bad traits to allow breed into cows.

    https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/716646098#view-beef-eurostar

    Only caesarian ever here, was an APZ heifer. Absolute pet though.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3111
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭High bike


    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    Don't understand how this lad is still allowed to stand in ai. How is he still 5 star. Much better bulls out there with worse stars. With daughter calving difficulty over %12 there must be allot of lads that got caught with no room to calve at all. Very bad traits to allow breed into cows.

    https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/716646098#view-beef-eurostar
    so how can he be 5* replacement at 98% reliability, the mind boggles


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    #3112
    GiantPencil
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    High bike wrote: »
    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    Don't understand how this lad is still allowed to stand in ai. How is he still 5 star. Much better bulls out there with worse stars. With daughter calving difficulty over %12 there must be allot of lads that got caught with no room to calve at all. Very bad traits to allow breed into cows.

    https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/716646098#view-beef-eurostar
    so how can he be 5* replacement at 98% reliability, the mind boggles
    Look at the Geno Eval tab...that shows how he gets to 115. Good carcass weight, milk and fertility. The poor daughter calving figure only accounts for 6% of his overall figure whereas the 3 mentioned above account for 37%


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    #3113
    The man in red and black
    Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭The man in red and black


    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    Don't understand how this lad is still allowed to stand in ai. How is he still 5 star. Much better bulls out there with worse stars. With daughter calving difficulty over %12 there must be allot of lads that got caught with no room to calve at all. Very bad traits to allow breed into cows.

    https://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/716646098#view-beef-eurostar

    Nearly 13000 offspring so someone obviously likes him out there. Not sure why though as you said that daughter calving difficulty is brutal!


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    #3114
    squinn2912
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    Had a couple of apostle calves out of good lim cows. Feel very lukewarm about them, kept them on where they suited but terrible calvers and gutty cattle too. Decent markings but that counts for little enough


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    #3115
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    The man in red and black wrote: »
    Nearly 13000 offspring so someone obviously likes him out there. Not sure why though as you said that daughter calving difficulty is brutal!

    Pg/Munster the biggest player in ai by far and they pushed him hard. Also the only ai company now involved in Icbf I think.


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    #3116
    rushvalley
    Registered Users Posts: 426 ✭✭rushvalley


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Does anyone here have any calves by Loki?

    Had a few this year not too pleased with them tbh. They look like white limousins :pac: no frame to them at all like what you'd expect with a charolais


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    #3117
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Loki

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3118
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Loki

    Mods, please delete...:cool:

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3119
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Got 5 On-Dit (ONI) straws today from Munster AI. €30 each.
    Asked about Doudou.TD (LM2321) too and all were gone.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3120
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Got 5 On-Dit (ONI) straws today from Munster AI. €30 each.
    Asked about Doudou.TD (LM2321) too and all were gone.

    He's in the back breeding of a lot of cattle so he must be good. I've no experience of him. Seems value at that though. Would he breed a bit like ronick hawk? Good female maker on smaller well built girls?

    I've a nice big framed favori Heifer, real nice cow in the making and a nice long popsi heifer to bull in a few weeks. Going to try my hand at a small bit of autumn calving 😂. I was thinking of using commander because they are shy of stars. Ever used him?


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    #3121
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    He's in the back breeding of a lot of cattle so he must be good. I've no experience of him. Seems value at that though. Would he breed a bit like ronick hawk? Good female maker on smaller well built girls?

    I've a nice big framed favori Heifer, real nice cow in the making and a nice long popsi heifer to bull in a few weeks. Going to try my hand at a small bit of autumn calving ��. I was thinking of using commander because they are shy of stars. Ever used him?

    Ya, I'm hoping on-dit will add milk and a bit of frame to smaller mucley types I have here.
    No commander calves on the ground here yet. Bought straws a few years back and not much luck with them. Don't know if it was the quality of the straws or what, but cows didn't hold. Have one heifer in-calf to him at the moment, so fingers crossed. From what i've seen of him, he seems to breed tight gutted types with good muscle.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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