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Killer Robots

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    Rubecula wrote: »
    they put stuff n your drink
    Human waiters and robots? Next time you visit after not tipping before?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Rubecula wrote: »
    they put stuff n your drink
    Tiny nanobots programmed with malware?


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    Tiny nanobots programmed with malware?
    Microscopic killer (nano)robots?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Boston Dynamics, makers of the world’s scariest horror droids, has revealed plans to build 1,000 Spotmini machines every single year starting from 2019.

    Who needs a hungry pet dog to get the remote control, and chase burgulars when you have a Spotmini dog.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/27/boston-dynamics-unleash-thousands-nightmare-inducing-robot-dogs-7767926/


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    "Nightmare-inducing" robot dogs.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    1,000 Spotmini machines every single year! Change from Skynet to Dognet.


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    Killer dogbots. On guard 24/7. Wonder if dogbot whisperer needed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Fathom wrote: »
    Killer dogbots. On guard 24/7. Wonder if dogbot whisperer needed?
    hmmm wondering if they sniff each others nuts


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    Squirrelbots


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Fathom wrote: »
    Squirrelbots
    https://cybersquirrel1.com/


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Cyber Squirrel Operations Map. What next? Are they too attack squirrels?


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    Killer squirrel bots become self-aware when Squirrelnet launches. Squirrelapocalypse Now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    * People seen running around screaming until one says "ooh look …..a squirrel" then all hell breaks out. However. no need to panic as to the rescue comes the remote controlled pine marten squadron, and they only want to take the squirrels down for dinner.


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    Terminator (what?)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    And then there be "slaughterbots." Viewing our dystopian future with killer drones powered by artificial intelligence.

    Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/slaughterbots-short-film-depicts-killer-drone-swarms-2017-11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Fathom wrote: »
    Terminator (what?)

    Terminator Squirrels versus Exterminator Pine Martens (I like the idea)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Rubecula wrote: »
    Terminator Squirrels versus Exterminator Pine Martens (I like the idea)
    Yet another killer robots movie plot between different types of adversaries.


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    Sci Fi anticipates future?


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    "Artificial intelligence researchers from nearly 30 countries are boycotting a South Korean university over concerns a new lab in partnership with a leading defence company could lead to “killer robots”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    oh dear it is kicking off already


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    Rubecula wrote: »
    oh dear it is kicking off already
    Killer drones about. Land now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Underwater killer robots may evolve, beyond torpedo AI technology, especially with increased Military Industrial Complex spending.


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    The world’s deadliest torpedoes:
    The Mk48 ADCAP Mod 7 Common Broadband Advanced Sonar System (CBASS) developed by Lockheed Martin uses active and/or passive homing, broadband sonar guidance and advanced counter-countermeasures to detect, track and engage targets in deep and shallow waters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    underwater AI may evolve a way to join with already intelligent creatures … exploding dolphins anyone? how about armour piercing orca? Killer Calamari? argumentative porpoise?


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    Rubecula wrote: »
    underwater AI may evolve a way to join with already intelligent creatures … exploding dolphins anyone? how about armour piercing orca? Killer Calamari? argumentative porpoise?
    Sci fi movies had its Killer Dolphins era, now cliche. Something more teardrop shape for underwater speed?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »

    The Department of Defense’s Unmanned Systems Roadmap: 2007-2032 provides additional reasons for pursuing autonomous weapons systems. It's rapidly developing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Black Swan wrote: »
    The Department of Defense’s Unmanned Systems Roadmap: 2007-2032 provides additional reasons for pursuing autonomous weapons systems. It's rapidly developing.

    autonomous weapons would be safer than the loonies with assault rifles I feel but personally I would not like to meet any thing human or otherwise that is carrying a firearm.


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    “Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology has reached a point where the deployment of such systems is—practically if not legally—feasible within years, not decades, and the stakes are high: autonomous weapons have been described as the third revolution in warfare, after gunpowder and nuclear arms.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    I served in the military and I really would like us to step back a bit and rethink this scenario.


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    Rubecula wrote: »
    I served in the military and I really would like us to step back a bit and rethink this scenario.
    You're qualified. I'm not. But I agree with you Rubecula.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Rubecula wrote: »
    I served in the military and I really would like us to step back a bit and rethink this scenario.
    Indeed.


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    Air Force Capt. Michael Byrnes predicts that a single unmanned aerial vehicle with machine-controlled maneuvering and accuracy could, “with a few hundred rounds of ammunition and sufficient fuel reserves,” take out an entire fleet of aircraft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Fathom wrote: »
    Air Force Capt. Michael Byrnes predicts that a single unmanned aerial vehicle with machine-controlled maneuvering and accuracy could, “with a few hundred rounds of ammunition and sufficient fuel reserves,” take out an entire fleet of aircraft.


    couple of points on that one, ]

    a. what type of aircraft?
    b. how many in a fleet?
    c. will they fight back?
    d. will it attack as a surprise/ambush or will it be met head on?

    let us not forget the difficulties involved in aerial combat.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Fathom wrote: »
    Air Force Capt. Michael Byrnes predicts that a single unmanned aerial vehicle with machine-controlled maneuvering and accuracy could, “with a few hundred rounds of ammunition and sufficient fuel reserves,” take out an entire fleet of aircraft.

    The prototype Firebee drone flew in 1951.

    In 1971 some second generation drones were used by pilots from Top Gun during MASTACS as target practice. Computers weren't so good then so the drones were remote controlled. They were smaller and could turn faster than the Phantoms. The hunters became the hunted.

    Manned fighters have been obsolete for almost half century.


    The weak spot of UAV's was interfering with the remote control link, but AI wouldn't need remote control


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    Manned fighters have been obsolete for almost half century. The weak spot of UAV's was interfering with the remote control link, but AI wouldn't need remote control
    Cool info. Thanks Capt'n.


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    LAW are called lethal autonomous weapon systems (LAWS), lethal autonomous robots (LAR), robotic weapons, or killer robots. Sobering? Or the opposite?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Indeed.


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    Robot peer influence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Imagine a single intelligence with a network of cameras and other sensors, on drones and otherwise, directly controlling air strikes and artillery. I imagine integrated control like this would offer greater potential for conceiving and implementing strategies. The removal of the physical limits of human senses is a very interesting idea.

    I imagine infantry would be by far the most difficult to replace. Taking the man out of the machine would be easier than replacing the soldier.


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    Imagine a single intelligence with a network of cameras and other sensors, on drones and otherwise, directly controlling air strikes and artillery. I imagine integrated control like this would offer greater potential for conceiving and implementing strategies. The removal of the physical limits of human senses is a very interesting idea.
    "Interesting idea." Lots of controversy.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,335 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    "Interesting idea." Lots of controversy.
    Assured to continue into the future.


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    I imagine infantry would be by far the most difficult to replace. Taking the man out of the machine would be easier than replacing the soldier.
    Does today's gaming and sci fi predict future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Fathom wrote: »
    Does today's gaming and sci fi predict future?

    good question, I would think it depends on which game you are referring to.

    Also, I would guess that certain things in games may foresee the future to some degree.


    Incidentally I do not like the word predict, it never works out, I have always preferred forecast as it tells you what is expected not what will happen.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Does today's gaming and sci fi predict future?

    Look at this prediction
    The Nokia Communicator came out three years earlier.
    Seiko had :confused:released a wristwatch TV in 1983.
    All the technology existed.

    5046_ad72_500.jpeg

    I'm more worried about the power short term Shareholders, Speculators and Asset Strippers have over our lives than Killer Robots.


    The killer robot problem would go away if those in control were made accountable.

    Corporate Social Responsibility enforced. Like a Minster of a Govt Dept (UK would be a better example) the buck should stop at the top. If a robot goes on a killing spree then the guys at the top need to explain why or face REAL consequences. And things like "there weren't enough controls/ resources" won't be an excuse. If it could have been prevented by best practice then a mandatory manslaughter charge should be brought.


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    Tech release must be timely (Example: Michelangelo inventions not timely). Are we ready for androids release? Killer androids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭AlphabetCards


    Imagine a single intelligence with a network of cameras and other sensors, on drones and otherwise, directly controlling air strikes and artillery. I imagine integrated control like this would offer greater potential for conceiving and implementing strategies. The removal of the physical limits of human senses is a very interesting idea.

    This is precisely where I feel AI is going to be implemented well. The very act of putting out a Fire Support Team to identify targets, call in Fires, adjust fall of shot (artillery, which is a hugely manpower intensive form of Fires) or deconflict airspace (JTAC) is all hugely manpower intensive. And for the modern army, aversion to casualties is a concern in the globally-connected world.


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    Vast US military monies. Military robot development should progress.


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    Fathom wrote: »
    Vast US military monies. Military robot development should progress.
    You don't know how this works do you ?

    Military R&D is a bottomless pit.

    The F-35 project will cost a Trillion dollars and that's after all they've spento on the F-22.
    Do you what happens to the clock if you cross the international date ?
    Did you know that places like the Dead Sea are below sea level ?

    Congrats you are over qualified to work on a Trillion dollar project. :rolleyes:


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