Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

My apologies, the tweets were all the way back in February and not April as I'd mis-remembered.

She posted several tweets near the end of February about Colm Fox and the ongoing delay of the trial, of which these are the most interesting because they go beyond asking what happened, and implying she actually knows something.

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/966808880683671552

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/967036387022254081

Could be a bunch of speculation or clickbait, but she seems to be a respected enough journalist as to make her unlikely to make these claims without having some knowledge that she's not revealing here.

I'm just scratching my head as to what it even could be, TBH. The whole thing is bizarre. The idea that Garda wrongdoing might have been involved in either that shooting or finding the suspects in its aftermath doesn't make sense to me at all - I just don't see either why they would have done anything dodgy and much less how they could have done anything dodgy related to it. The entire justice system was totally blindsided when that incident occurred, the idea that there's some conspiracy afoot just seems much, much too far-fetched for real life. Love/Hate or Breaking Bad, maybe.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm just scratching my head as to what it even could be, TBH. The whole thing is bizarre. The idea that Garda wrongdoing might have been involved in either that shooting or finding the suspects in its aftermath doesn't make sense to me at all - I just don't see either why they would have done anything dodgy and much less how they could have done anything dodgy related to it. The entire justice system was totally blindsided when that incident occurred, the idea that there's some conspiracy afoot just seems much, much too far-fetched for real life. Love/Hate or Breaking Bad, maybe.

Patrick with respect I think youre being a little bit naive here to not see the potential angles. Im not going to speculate specifically on this case as we are not allowed.

However above you say it seems to be that a conspiracy is too far fetched for real life. But only recently we have a real life example of what is possible when AGS and international drug traffickers conspire and work together. We have seen this with the Kieran Boylan heroin trafficking affair and the involvement of senior Gardai in it. They were protecting a convicted heroin trafficker from up on high and god only knows how much money was changing hands while the streets were being flooded with drugs. It is so unbelievable that is sounds like the work of fiction but it is very real and grounded in facts
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/13/the-appalling-vista/
Often life is stranger than fiction and the above is clear evidence of that

Muahahaha wrote: »

Patrick with respect I think youre being a little bit naive here to not see the potential angles. Im not going to speculate specifically on this case as we are not allowed.

However above you say it seems to be that a conspiracy is too far fetched for real life. But only recently we have a real life example of what is possible when AGS and international drug traffickers conspire and work together. We have seen this with the Kieran Boylan heroin trafficking affair and the involvement of senior Gardai in it. They were protecting a convicted heroin trafficker from up on high and god only knows how much money was changing hands while the streets were being flooded with drugs. It is so unbelievable that is sounds like the work of fiction but it is very real and grounded in facts
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/13/the-appalling-vista/
Often life is stranger than fiction and the above is clear evidence of that

You think the Boyle stuff is indicative of potential Garda involvement in And you seem to be relying on the surveillance accusations of which there was no evidence. Do you think you might be a bit quick to believe anything negative about the Gardaí.

Mucky_Tackies wrote: »

One of the obvious questions is how was there no Garda presence at the Regency weigh-ins? They'd previously mentioned there would be yet there was no sign.

Not hard to understand. There is a chronic shortage of manpower on the frontlines.

Mucky_Tackies wrote: »

You a guard?

No, I am your father. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

mynamejeff wrote: »

are you having a laugh ? A respected journalist ??

she is a low level populist conspiracy theory sprouting hack who would blacken her own other if it got her a second of publicity

she is the embodiment of the fringe lunatic and is a tweet away from the joe douccys and stephen mannings of this world

She's won a fair few journalistic and documentary awards for a conspiracy loon, in fairness...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemma_O'Doherty#Awards

And according to this article she also exposed a scandal which was described as the biggest cover-up in the history of the state, when it happened.

Sounds fairly credible to me, but maybe times have changed and she's not the journalist she used to be?

Captain Obvious wrote: »

You think the Boyle stuff is indicative of potential Garda involvement in And you seem to be relying on the surveillance accusations of which there was no evidence. Do you think you might be a bit quick to believe anything negative about the Gardaí.

Im just making the point in the context of hatrickpatricks post that collusion between senior Gardai and a high level heroin traffickers has happened in the past. Not sure what surveillance accusations you are on about but it is pretty much accepted by all stake holders that senior Gardai were involved with Kieran Boylan in the heroin trade. Unless you are disputing that fact? Because that would put you at odds with Enda Kenny, Pat Rabbitte, Brendan Howlin and Alan Shatter, all who have raised the seriousness of the Boylan affair in the Dail. On top of that John Mooney of the Sunday Times has been reporting reliably on it for years and GSOC have a live investigation into it, one which has been blocked by senior Gardai at every turn according to themselves.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Im just making the point in the context of hatrickpatricks post that collusion between senior Gardai and a high level heroin traffickers has happened in the past. Not sure what surveillance accusations you are on about but it is pretty much accepted by all stake holders that senior Gardai were involved with Kieran Boylan in the heroin trade. Unless you are disputing that fact? Because that would put you at odds with Enda Kenny, Pat Rabbitte, Brendan Howlin and Alan Shatter, all who have raised the seriousness of the Boylan affair in the Dail. On top of that John Mooney of the Sunday Times has been reporting reliably on it for years and GSOC have a live investigation into it, one which has been blocked by senior Gardai at every turn according to themselves.

You're making a fair big leap between what went on with Boyle and your insinuations on the death of a serving officer.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Would you be surprised if he was correct ?

Yes. Very much so.

glenfieldman wrote: »

Which account is this, PM me if you cant post it please

Me too if you dont mind

No need for pm's . Just go to his twitter account and tap tweets and replies . Its the last one in there .
There you will also find the other interesting tweeters , when you tap into their tweets .

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I'v no idea if any of it is true but it wouldn't surprise me ,
I think u'd be silly to think there isn't a possibility that some Garda couldn't be bought,
Surely the world has thought you it is at least a possibility and wouldn't be a huge shock

Of course there is the possibility a Garda can be bought. But there is absolutely nothing to indicate any such thing was a factor in that death.

So much for ' speculation ' in the mods note. Thread littered with it.

Captain Obvious wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I'v no idea if any of it is true but it wouldn't surprise me ,
I think u'd be silly to think there isn't a possibility that some Garda couldn't be bought,
Surely the world has thought you it is at least a possibility and wouldn't be a huge shock

Of course there is the possibility a Garda can be bought. But there is absolutely nothing to indicate any such thing was a factor in that death.

I never said there was I simply asked would you be surprised if it came out that it was the case,
I don't want to disrespect the Garda or his family who have been through a lot, I'm simply saying in this day and age nothing involving the Garda would surprise me and you'd naïve to think its not possible,

benny79 wrote: »

Pete Taylor only sent 1 tweet to him and he replied once thats it.. But the lads arrested over the guns 1 has been named in the news the other was released without charge! how on earth
I dont know but there you go.

If he wasn't the driver he could argue that he didn't know the gun was in the car and was only getting a lift.

I seen in one of the papers the suspected target posted a box of bullets saying it was the cure for all kinahan lovers.

This individual may also be behind a certain twitter account.