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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

  • 20-01-2018 9:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭JamBur


    Nobody cares about scum killing scum, let them eradicate each other


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Unless there's an innocent involved it makes no odds to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Completely agree, Im just surprised not a word mentioned!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Passed by that area at that time today. Grew up there. Probably missed it by less than 5 minutes.

    Terrible for ordinary people trying to live amongst that ****.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Your clickbait title is ok, but needs work.

    Suggest:

    "Man dying in dublin could have held the cure for cancer, but the mainstream boardsies refuse to cover it"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    JamBur wrote: »
    Nobody cares about scum killing scum, let them eradicate each other

    A lot of people including myself may not be comfortable with the idea that people should be able to shoot each other, regardless of who the victims are.

    Also, this is hardly a feud at this stage. Feuds usually involve two sides taking each other out. This is as much a feud as a rivalry between a hammer and a bag of nails.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Your clickbait title is ok, but needs work.

    Suggest:

    "Man dying in dublin could have held the cure for cancer, but the mainstream boardsies refuse to cover it"

    "You won't believe what happened next!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Your clickbait title is ok, but needs work.

    Although not intended, Ill take that as a compliment, Ill put it on my cv if I ever go for a job in the Indo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭SimpleDimples


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    No surprise, non African/traveller related crime doesn't exist according to some on here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    No-one gives two hoots when scum murder scum.

    Only person really interested is paul Williams so that his hysterical sensationalist assessments can be on every news broadcast on Newstalk.

    Means radio one for me tomorrow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.

    When one dies there’s another to fill the shoes unfortunately :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.

    They’re endless. As far as I know the “security advice” the Gardai give the “targets” is to get out of the country.
    Is it stupidity, arrogance or what is it that persuaded them to stay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.

    Dozens with this guy's surname seemingly. Three with his actual full name.

    I'd be changing it if it was me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    The reason is, it will be closed, just like this one will be. We had one big thread on it before and it was closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.

    I reckon I drove by the incident with minutes to spare. Passed by coming back with cameras press Guards everywhere.

    Ordinarily I would also be in the area where the car turned up and at the same time.

    It’s only a matter of time before some innocent is a victim of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    How the F has Kinahan/Hutch seniors not been brought down yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.

    2 people with no connection to the feud have been murdered. 14 people in total killed in a very short space of time. The Gardai are needed now more than ever to clean this up. If not you could be walking to the IFSC on the wrong day and get a bullet in your head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    vicwatson wrote: »
    How the F has Kinahan/Hutch seniors not been brought down yet?

    By who the Garda? If so the Garda have to keep within the law, they don't and are usually one step ahead.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Although not intended, Ill take that as a compliment, Ill put it on my cv if I ever go for a job in the Indo.

    Seriously though, if the only thing you can say about this news item is that it doesnt already have a thread, then that surely explains why no one else wanted to start a thread. No?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭julyjane


    anewme wrote: »
    I reckon I drove by the incident with minutes to spare. Passed by coming back with cameras press Guards everywhere.

    Ordinarily I would also be in the area where the car turned up and at the same time.

    It’s only a matter of time before some innocent is a victim of this.
    There have already been at least 2 innocent victims killed in this feud, one was on holiday in Majorca with his family at the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    In other news, rumour has it that a person who committed a robbery at a spar in clontarf will not commit any further criminal acts ever

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/derek-hutch-given-suspended-sentence-for-hold-up-with-imitation-firearm-36307553.html


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,207 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Met Senior Hutch's daughter in a karaoke bar in Torremelinos back in 2002. Good job it had bad lighting. Crap singer too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Seriously though, if the only thing you can say about this news item is that it doesnt already have a thread, then that surely explains why no one else wanted to start a thread. No?

    No. My original question and reason for the thread was 'Is there a ban on discussing the Kinahan/Hutch 'fued'?'

    Not sure what your issue is? I daren't use the T word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    There is a thread. You started it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    julyjane wrote: »
    There have already been at least 2 innocent victims killed in this feud, one was on holiday in Majorca with his family at the time.

    I often think about Anthony Campbell and his family. They got no justice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    In other news, rumour has it that a person who committed a robbery at a spar in clontarf will not commit any further criminal acts ever

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/derek-hutch-given-suspended-sentence-for-hold-up-with-imitation-firearm-36307553.html

    The justice system in this country seriously have a lot to answer for. They are letting these lads ruin riot and even at that, there sentencing is serious out of wack from one case to the next.

    Reading the above, how in the name of fúck can you drag a person by the hair down an aisle and scare the living ****é out of them and get a suspended sentence. A person who is working there bollix off to keep the lights on in Ireland INC.

    Then if you harass someone you get three years inside, yet if you kill a person serious injure someone by been 3 times over the limit, you walk away with a 4 year driving ban and a few hours free work.

    Is someone going to take our justice system to task, it's serious not functioning as it should and to me it's going to trigger off vigilantism.

    Regardless, the suspended sentence for the robbery means shag all now, but seriously!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    TallGlass wrote: »
    The justice system in this country seriously have a lot to answer for. They are letting these lads ruin riot and even at that, there sentencing is serious out of wack from one case to the next.

    Reading the above, how in the name of fúck can you drag a person by the hair down an aisle and scare the living ****é out of them and get a suspended sentence. A person who is working there bollix off to keep the lights on in Ireland INC.

    Then if you harass someone you get three years inside, yet if you kill a person serious injure someone by been 3 times over the limit, you walk away with a 4 year driving ban and a few hours free work.

    Is someone going to take our justice system to task, it's serious not functioning as it should and to me it's going to trigger off vigilantism.

    Regardless, the suspended sentence for the robbery means shag all now, but seriously!

    The guy with him got 5/6 years as far as I recall. I smell a rat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Does anyone know how many of them are left?

    There cannot be many more left to be taken out.

    I would prefer if the garda resouces dedicted to this fued could be spent on other things.

    They breed like rabbits so there's no shortage..... hutch...get it :)



    I'll get my coat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    No surprise, non African/traveller related crime doesn't exist according to some on here

    Yawn...
    There was a huge thread on this feud that was heavily moderated and eventually locked as this one will most likely be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    No surprise, non African/traveller related crime doesn't exist according to some on here

    They have the anti social crap you say plus this **** to live with.

    Call it a double whammy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Collie D wrote: »
    Also, this is hardly a feud at this stage. Feuds usually involve two sides taking each other out. This is as much a feud as a rivalry between a hammer and a bag of nails.

    Agreed. It's not even full time yet and it's 12-2 to the Kinahans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    TallGlass wrote: »
    By who the Garda? If so the Garda have to keep within the law, they don't and are usually one step ahead.

    It doesn’t matter by whom. Is there no bigger drug cartel leaders in the world that want to oust these two?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,705 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    "Blasted to Death" ... isn't that a Seagal movie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Agreed. It's not even full time yet and it's 12-2 to the Kinahans.

    The Garda would have had words with the persons whos lives are at risk, yet they continue to hang around and still stay in the same circles while continuing on as if all is normal.

    Any sane person would get the phek out of dodge and move as far away as possible till this all blows over.

    As someone said, let them kill each other. That's all well and good, but we are not some town in the back arse of Africa or Mexico, we have other countries looking at this stuff going on here and our authorities don't have it under control at all. It looks pathetic to be honest, 14 people murdered, all bets should have been off from the Irish government once an innocent person was killed, knowing the severity of the situation about to develop.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    vicwatson wrote: »
    It doesn’t matter by whom. Is there no bigger drug cartel leaders in the world that want to oust these two?

    Oust who? As the saying goes, there is always someone bigger than you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    No-one gives two hoots when scum murder scum.

    Only person really interested is paul Williams so that his hysterical sensationalist assessments can be on every news broadcast on Newstalk.

    Means radio one for me tomorrow.

    In the main, no one, but reality is different.

    But when ordinary people get caught up it, it matters.

    There was no justice for young Anthony Campbell.

    I dont know him or his family but often think of them, they were denied justice. why.? Maybe because I worked hard and moved up a class I see how he was trying to.

    I grew up in the area that today’s murder happened in.

    3 mins drive of murder and 30 seconds walk of the burnt out car.

    i recall guards pulling me in on that road when i was visiting family( thinking I was going to halting site) recently because of flashy car.

    Once they heard accent it was like:oh fine, no problem.

    There’s not just skangers in that area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    anewme wrote: »
    3 mins drive of murder and 30 seconds walk of the burnt out car.

    Hi Neighbourino


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    anewme wrote: »

    There’s not just skangers in that area.
    I assure you, I have no issue with people living in the area. I have employed people from there and they have been some of the best staff I've ever had and I'm godfather to one former employee's daughter from there.

    But those involved in crime are scum. And when scum kill scum, I don't see it being anything for decent people to be worried about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    I assure you, I have no issue with people living in the area. I have employed people from there and they have been some of the best staff I've ever had and I'm godfather to one former employee's daughter from there.

    But those involved in crime are scum. And when scum kill scum, I don't see it being anything for decent people to be worried about.

    what if I’d been there walking dogs in the area or going shopping when people wanted to burn the car out..?

    These fueds impact those Good people living nearby , like it or not.

    Probably because I am pure working class, I think of the Campbell family, they got no justice for a young guy trying to work an apprenticeship. It’s very very close to home for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Well that's my question answered. Boards obviously has no issue discussing it.....people just don't care to start a thread and discuss it, and quite rightly so.

    Close thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Well that's my question answered. Boards obviously has no issue discussing it.....people just don't care to start a thread and discuss it, and quite rightly so.

    Close thread.

    I think the issue in the past has been naming people but now it's on The Sunday World's Twitter I doubt that's a problem now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    No thread cause the guy who'd normally start the thread was shot dead today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Well that's my question answered. Boards obviously has no issue discussing it.....people just don't care to start a thread and discuss it, and quite rightly so.

    Close thread.

    Put a / before close thread to close it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Oust who? As the saying goes, there is always someone bigger than you.

    Kinahan and Hutch, no major player in the world gonna take these out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Thesomersarms


    All being fuelled by a brothers revenge and a boss living abroad who’s almost playing it like some sick game, picking off random people connected to the family regardless of their involvement in the regency attempt on him, to quote the wire, it’s a message, you come at the king you best not miss, crazy that after all these deaths their sense of vengeance hasn’t been satisfied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,217 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    JamBur wrote: »
    Nobody cares about scum killing scum, let them eradicate each other

    That attitude is what lets things build to the scale they are now, which is a feud thats left at least two entirely innocent people dead.

    The attitude that "x=scum" is also what allowed large sections of the population to become the favoured prey of paedophiles and abusers, as nobody in officialdom cared what became them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    Last time I checked none of the major players on the hutch side have been took out, it's just easy targets and innocents


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Odhinn wrote: »

    The attitude that "x=scum" is also what allowed large sections of the population to become the favoured prey of paedophiles and abusers, as nobody in officialdom cared what became them.

    Also this type of behaviour is usually a factor in labeling people scum;
    From The Independent

    Hutch has nine previous convictions, including three for theft.

    During the raid, Hutch and his accomplice held a gun to the head of the shop manager and demanded the code for the alarm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Also this type of behaviour is usually a factor in labeling people scum;

    You forgot this part in the second quote!
    That sentencing hearing was told the men got in under the shutters of the shop and “floored” the manager before dragging her down the aisles demanding the keys.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/derek-hutch-gets-suspended-sentence-for-robbery-with-fake-gun-1.3286965


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